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Superman Returns SPOILER::Pics. of what happens to Lex Luthor at the films end...I think it sucks

4NutzinYoface said:
Or is it as lame as that stupid pic. under your name there?


Yeah, the lame pic of the Mask I sculpted? I know it sucks, but hey at least i got the stones to put up something i made here.

Anyhow, as far as lex being stranged on a lonly deserted Island, it's a thing called Irony, since he was simply after his own island, he gets it, coconuts and all. And given the tide, he might have to use kittys corpse as a floatation device.

I'm one of the many who prefer an open ending, and not seeing villians killed off or imprisioned in a jail he could simply break out of, instead of being stranded due to his own devices.
 
So Superman would just LEAVE Lex on an island. Lets make our hero look like an idiot, thats just great.
 
well superman was busy with having to carry New K on his back then fling it into space

I wonder if the 'stranded island' scene might get cut out.

why not just have lex's helicopter escape New Krypton then thats the last of luthor till he emerges for the sequel


at least lex doesn't end up back in jail

now the question is brought up how Luthor and company get off the island when the helicopter is out of gas and the tide is coming in

con a local villager?

make gas out of coconut juice?
 
Man. A lot people want Lex dead. But I have to say, this ending makes Lex look like the best comic book villian ever because unlike the other comic book villians( minus Dr.Doom), he actually survives :D .

*Lex looks at all the comic book villians* Lex: Guess what, boys. I'm still the best! Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!
 
Here is a better ending, although Im sure that it will be called predictable, but it's also logical. The whole reason Lex isn't in jail was because Superman wasn't around to testify. Well know he is. After saving the day, Superman could grab Lex by his neck, almost ready to break it in anger, but come to his sense.

Wow this is really cliched and bad writing. Luckily you're not a screenwriter. :)
 
Well it could be because Superman is currently in the hospital.

Also, Lex go to jail? For what? Can Superman PROVE that Lex was the one who did all of this? Sure, they could testify, but it doesn't prove anything. Any proof that Lois and Jason was on the ship is under water.

I get the feeling in the next film Lex is going to blame the whole continent rising out of the ocean on Superman.

Besides, who the hell wants Lex to go out like a little *****? He's one of the best villians ever. Lex Luthor doesn't go out like a *****. EVER.

Bullseye can go out like a *****. Goblin can go out like a *****.

But LEX does NOT go out like a *****. :)
 
Fatboy Roberts said:
Wow this is really cliched and bad writing. Luckily you're not a screenwriter. :)

No kidding. All you need there is the line "...and now I have become the very thing I swore to destroy" and we're in business.
 
4NutzinYoface said:
So....even though this forum is CLEARLY a 'Spoiler' Forum some twits will most certainly bash me for the lack of 'Spoiler' alert in my post...

Here are some pics. from Latino Review that methinks are the last of what we'll see of Luthor in "Superman Returns"

movieimage_5261.jpg

movieimage_5257.jpg


Now...I think that someone said in a reivew of the Novel based on the Motion Picture that Lex is left stranded on an island.

I think that kinda blows....I know that nowadays people don't want the main villain in Superhero movies to die off.....I think the opposite! There are so many villains in the Superman Rogues Gallery that can certainly fit in the sequels to "Superman Returns" we don't need to see Lex again.

I would have LOVED to see Superman kill Lex Luthor or have Luthor die off in some way...fall to his death or something! It's awesome when the main villain dies off in the end, adds a sense of closure.

You're Jon Peters, aren't you?
 
actually if it's true, then it's the only thing that makes sense. Superman can't kill Lex, and there isn't a prison on the planet that could hold him for too long. So leave on a island with food and a woman.
it works.
 
4NutzinYoface said:
I think that kinda blows....I know that nowadays people don't want the main villain in Superhero movies to die off.....I think the opposite! There are so many villains in the Superman Rogues Gallery that can certainly fit in the sequels to "Superman Returns" we don't need to see Lex again.

I don't want to see Lex killed...ever! He is a central player in the mythos and I like the fact that a human is Superman's biggest arch enemy. Killing him off in the movie would negate how much of a badass he really is. And Lex is always prime for a comeback because he his friggin' LEX LUTHOR. He's stuck on an island, but he'll find a ship hijack it and start his revenge again. And...on a side note, all supervillians have the unlimited "come back from the dead" card stored away at the Hall of Doom. The superheroes have theirs stored at the Hall of Justice.

You can't kill one of them off :)
 
venom420 said:
Now, Im sure someone will come defend Singer's decision so lets hear it. What can you pull out of you ass to back up what Singer has envisioned.
Nothing. Because no one has to back anything up. It's the movie's job to justify the ending. Now, you don't have to like the ending. That's how life works. Some people get please. Others don't. However, I'm not presumptious enough to berate an ending to a movie I haven't seen yet. Jumping the gun simply isn't my style. If it's good, then it's good and I'll say so. If it's bad, then it's bad and I'll say so too. But see, I'm not saying anything about it either way before I see the movie. That way I can actually give an informed opinion and not just some half-baked ranting.

But whatever works for you. You want to be presumptious, go right ahead. It's your hole your digging.
 
skruloos said:
Nothing. Because no one has to back anything up. It's the movie's job to justify the ending. Now, you don't have to like the ending. That's how life works. Some people get please. Others don't. However, I'm not presumptious enough to berate an ending to a movie I haven't seen yet. Jumping the gun simply isn't my style. If it's good, then it's good and I'll say so. If it's bad, then it's bad and I'll say so too. But see, I'm not saying anything about it either way before I see the movie. That way I can actually give an informed opinion and not just some half-baked ranting.

But whatever works for you. You want to be presumptious, go right ahead. It's your hole your digging.

They are only going to change so much from the novel, and while the visuals do look spectacular, the fact that there are so many elements connected to the Donner film of the 70's may work against it. It's pretty easy to draw conclusions on what the film will likely be even though one hasn't seen it yet. I can see where people will probably not be too impressed with the lack of action and a lame ending that has a lot of boring elements. This film will start off strong, but I think it will drop off heavily with word of mouth, once people find out that it doesn't have much a real great climax or showdown. I don't think this film will have multiple viewing, IMO. Many people I've talked to say they'll wait for the DVD because it sounds a lot like the original film, and they wanted to see better action.
 
dpm07 said:
They are only going to change so much from the novel, and while the visuals do look spectacular, the fact that there are so many elements connected to the Donner film of the 70's may work against it. It's pretty easy to draw conclusions on what the film will likely be even though one hasn't seen it yet. I can see where people will probably not be too impressed with the lack of action and a lame ending that has a lot of boring elements. This film will start off strong, but I think it will drop off heavily with word of mouth, once people find out that it doesn't have much a real great climax or showdown. I don't think this film will have multiple viewing, IMO. Many people I've talked to say they'll wait for the DVD because it sounds a lot like the original film, and they wanted to see better action.

I honestly don't think it will drop off very much at all. I think SR will still compete very well after it’s first week.

The ending is amazing in the book. Superman getting his ass beaten isn't a climax or showdown? Watching Superman hurl a continent into space, then watching what happens to him isn't a climax?Not to mention Lois and Superman's last few scenes (starting from when she finds him) are sad and powerful. And if the spoiler that WB doesn't want to be given away is about Jason, then that isn't a climax?

Honestly, I can imagine 3 big events in the last 20-min as its climax. Oh, not to mention it's applause at the end of the screening according to the BH...

As far as action goes… There may not be a ton of action like in X3 (which is fine by me, I prefer story > just eye candy) but according to the reviews so far, the action that does take place is some of the best action sequences ever.

It’s your opinion, but your assumptions are way off base as far as I’m concerned. I’m not saying the ending, or the movie itself is a sure-fire hit. But your arguments of why it could fail seem to be reaching.
 
All sounds good to me, Lex doesn't die he gets even <well always trys> Lex will always play a part in the new franchise, will somehow always be connected to what ever new villain Superman would have to face.
 
4NutzinYoface said:
So....even though this forum is CLEARLY a 'Spoiler' Forum some twits will most certainly bash me for the lack of 'Spoiler' alert in my post...

Here are some pics. from Latino Review that methinks are the last of what we'll see of Luthor in "Superman Returns"

movieimage_5261.jpg

movieimage_5257.jpg


Now...I think that someone said in a reivew of the Novel based on the Motion Picture that Lex is left stranded on an island.

I think that kinda blows....I know that nowadays people don't want the main villain in Superhero movies to die off.....I think the opposite! There are so many villains in the Superman Rogues Gallery that can certainly fit in the sequels to "Superman Returns" we don't need to see Lex again.

I would have LOVED to see Superman kill Lex Luthor or have Luthor die off in some way...fall to his death or something! It's awesome when the main villain dies off in the end, adds a sense of closure.

im glad hes still alive. if they had killed him then we wud not see luthor in a movie again. i think that wud suck alot.
 
Maybe Lex will hook up with Jack Sparrow OR he's gonna be in LOST season 3
 
MoreCowbell said:
I honestly don't think it will drop off very much at all. I think SR will still compete very well after it&#8217;s first week.

POTC2 is likely going to have a big impact, and the lack of a great story to complement a great hero/villain battle may hurt this film. This story is pretty much been there done that, and the whole Lex and Real Estate was done in the first film.

MoreCowbell said:
The ending is amazing in the book. Superman getting his ass beaten isn't a climax or showdown? Watching Superman hurl a continent into space, then watching what happens to him isn't a climax?Not to mention Lois and Superman's last few scenes (starting from when she finds him) are sad and powerful. And if the spoiler that WB doesn't want to be given away is about Jason, then that isn't a climax?

Actually, I thought the ending was rather boring. Seeing Lex and Kitty on the island is pretty lame as she'll probably be in the sequel, and that's pretty useless. Watching Superman throw a continent into space, is pretty lame unless you like like Pre-Crisis Superman, and I think that will turn a lot of the mainstream audience off. It makes things too limitless for Superman, and when I've described the continent throwing to a lot of people who are more mainstream audiences, they generally roll their eyes, and say that's lame. Lois and Superman's last few scenes in the novel are ok, but he doesn't even get her in the end. Is this going to be a theme in Singer's Superman movies? Superman doesn't get the girl? That pretty much is an outdated approach, IMO.

Regarding Jason being possibly Superman's son. That could actually turn a lot of people off in the mainstream. Maybe not, but couple that with Superman not getting Lois in the end, and it comes off pretty lame, IMO.

MoreCowbell said:
Honestly, I can imagine 3 big events in the last 20-min as its climax. Oh, not to mention it's applause at the end of the screening according to the BH...

Well, I can't imagine that they would post people booing at the end of the screening. That's not going to help sales. There's going to be some great moments for sure, but overall, I don't think it's going to hold up well. There's 3 big events, but other than Lex/Superman at the FOS, it's really pretty boring. Superman stopping a natural disaster? We've seen that before. Why do you think that the Spiderman films, X3, and BB did well cinematically. Story and action. While the premise for SR may be done well, Singer is not known for action in his movies. He's a character director. That's not a bad thing, but it may hurt him with this film, and people may be expecting more rather than a return to the Donner era.

MoreCowbell said:
As far as action goes&#8230; There may not be a ton of action like in X3 (which is fine by me, I prefer story > just eye candy) but according to the reviews so far, the action that does take place is some of the best action sequences ever.

See, I guess I'm different. When I go see a movie that is supposed to be epic like this, I want to see a great story and great action. The presentation of this type of action being done in SR was done in the original film. I guess with today's technology, I was expecting more, ala Superman/Brainiac, Superman/Metallo, etc. There's no reason Luthor couldn't have done what he's doing, and we could still have had a great battle to complement the story. I'm sure the editing process is well done with regard to what is on-screen. Again, I'm not saying Singer is a bad director (I've got quite a few of his films on DVD, actually), but I don't think his approach with his story, and lack of conventional action generally present in a superhero film will go over well with the mainstream audience.

Generally, most people I've talked to and who have asked me about the movie, have asked me who's he fighting in this movie. I say, "No one. He's dealing with natural disasters and Luthor, along with adjusting to the world after being gone." Most people roll their eyes, and say, "That's it? I'll wait for the DVD, or watch the original." They can't believe we've waited all these years to see Superman, and this is what we're getting. I've actually seen people joke around about seeing Superman throw down with a chunk of rock when I tell him he hurls NK into space.
 
I think its cool that superman strands lex on the island,if he went to jail,he would just break out eventually,and superman does not kill,if he did, you might as well call him the punisher.
 
Personally I'm sick and tired of villians being killed off in these movies. Like they did with the joker in Batman. I guess in the next Batman flick they totally ignore Jack Nicholson's wonderful performance in 89. If they didn't kill him off back then he could have come back & been awesome in the next movie.

Besides, Luthor teaming with Brainiac or Darkseid in the next movies will be awesome.
 
Cinemaman said:
We all know this.

I think it is better than that stupid jail.

He wanted his own continent and now he got his Island :D

BINGO! at least someone got the subtle irony of the story :up:
 
That ending is lame....lets move on!

And Fatboy_Roberts is still a d^ck, just has to attempt to fight with others.
 
venom420 said:
And Fatboy_Roberts is still a d^ck, just has to attempt to fight with others.

Your not much better than he is in alot of eyes here then, bro.
 

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