Superman Returns SR Sequel: $200 million or else!?

[lordofthenerds]

True, but IMAX is still a theatrical presentation, and people are still going to see it there. We could argue back and forth whether or not that's "cheating", but just because it's IMAX doesn't mean it should not count. In my opinion.

I agree. And will SR hit dollar theaters? Because it would make money there too.

 

[Fading]

SR also in my opinion was undermarketed. Maybe it's just me.

I agree. They spent more than 2 or 3 movies marketing this thing, but they poorly placed it. There were times where I couldn't go a day without a Superman Returns commercial, or toy commercial for it wasn't playing every other break. Then there'd be days where it wouldn't come on at all. It was on everything from yogurt to cereal boxes, and sides of buses, but not much past that. They spent more than 9 outta 10 movies on marketing, but did crap with it. They could have spent 1/4 that amount and had the same effect.

On the other hand I think it's a cop out for Singer to blame marketing like he has. Fact is, most ppl probably knew it was coming out and when just as much as they knew Pirates was coming out as it had probably less commercials. Yet ppl saw Pirates in droves, not to count kids watch enough TV, I have no doubt parent's weren't going crazy with, "Mom I just saw that inflatable superman suit from the movie, and the glove that makes sounds, can you buy it?". So if they didn't know themselves, word of mouth probably spread it around too, ppl knew, I just don't think it was on everyone's to do list. Just opinion tho, we'll never know unless we interview everyone lol.

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

True, but IMAX is still a theatrical presentation, and people are still going to see it there. We could argue back and forth whether or not that's "cheating", but just because it's IMAX doesn't mean it should not count. In my opinion.

I wasnt saying it shouldn't "count." I was just pointing out that it's hanging around now for the most part in IMAX theaters, which tend to be more about the theater and in this case the 3-D experience than the actual film itself.

 

[Carp Man]

There is enough blame to go around. From Singer, to the writers, to the producers, to marketing, all the way up the ladder. And we all know s*** rolls downhill. And there will be a lot of it rolling downhill from this movies performance. Prob. will not even make 400 million WW. Who saw that comming ? Who saw POTC making 1billion WW ? Not I.

 

[Masut]

I reckon people are a bit sick of Superhero movies at the moment. I'd like another Superhero flick (of a hero that hasn't been seen for a while or has not been to the big screen yet) get released right about now, and see how it does.

 

[Lestat74]

I wasnt saying it shouldn't "count." I was just pointing out that it's hanging around now for the most part in IMAX theaters, which tend to be more about the theater and in this case the 3-D experience than the actual film itself.

I'd say that's true to a large extent, but it sure hasn't helped the Ant Bully...and from what I understand, the 3D is more impressive with that movie than with SR.

 

[lordofthenerds]

I'd say that's true to a large extent, but it sure hasn't helped the Ant Bully...and from what I understand, the 3D is more impressive with that movie than with SR.

Exactly. Just the fact that people are choosing SR over other movies in Imax says something.

 

[Pickle-El]

Exactly. Just the fact that people are choosing SR over other movies in Imax says something.

It's also pricier than already pricey theatres.......its about 15$ here in L.A. for one IMAX viewing of SR.

 

[explode7]

SR has 197 Domestic. It would be funny if it stopped at 199.9 M.

 

[Venom71]

SR has 197 Domestic. It would be funny if it stopped at 199.9 M.

What makes the difference...it has already been stated that both Legendary & WB are ready and backing a sequel.

 

[charl_huntress]

So much Singer love....

What happens if he doesn't come back???

 

[Thunder Emperor]

There is enough blame to go around. From Singer, to the writers, to the producers, to marketing, all the way up the ladder. And we all know s*** rolls downhill. And there will be a lot of it rolling downhill from this movies performance. Prob. will not even make 400 million WW. Who saw that comming ? Who saw POTC making 1billion WW ? Not I.

Couldn't have imagined POTC2 making a billion could sneak its way up to 2nd all time who knows, and the man of still is no where to be found, its Singers fault all the way, the marketing was strong for SR, problem was there was nothing to market. which is why people stayed away from it.

 

[charl_huntress]

POTC2 totals are insane for a sequel, and it proves Hollywood wrong IMO.

Singer is the cause for SR failures. I'm sure WB is behind him, but I'm sure their leash is quite tight now. That is if Singer is still on board. Frankly, I'm thinking another directore might come onboard soon, and we will be fluxed by his views.

WB....Fix your Superheroes....before I become a Marvel fan

 

[Lestat74]

POTC2 totals are insane for a sequel, and it proves Hollywood wrong IMO.

Singer is the cause for SR failures. I'm sure WB is behind him, but I'm sure their leash is quite tight now. That is if Singer is still on board. Frankly, I'm thinking another directore might come onboard soon, and we will be fluxed by his views.

WB....Fix your Superheroes....before I become a Marvel fan

I'm quite certain that if Singer doesn't come back for whatever reason, Warner's will get some new ( much cheaper ) up and coming former music video director to take over....he'll just be happy to have the job and will do whatever the studio tells him "Market research" shows the audience wants ( Less nuance, more punching...ya know,the usual ) Either that or Michael Bay, in which case we can assure at least one shoot of Supes flying slow mo through steam and/or fog....

Possibly set to Aerosmith...or whatever the 2009 equivelent is.

Yup, good times....


In other news, Hollywoodland is actually quite decent. You should all check it out.

 

[charl_huntress]

I'm quite certain that if Singer doesn't come back for whatever reason, Warner's will get some new ( much cheaper ) up and coming former music video director to take over....he'll just be happy to have the job and will do whatever the studio tells him "Market research" shows the audience wants ( Less nuance, more punching...ya know,the usual ) Either that or Michael Bay, in which case we can assure at least one shoot of Supes flying slow mo through steam and/or fog....

Possibly set to Aerosmith...or whatever the 2009 equivelent is.

Yup, good times....


In other news, Hollywoodland is actually quite decent. You should all check it out.

If that persons is better than Singer...I'm game.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I'm quite certain that if Singer doesn't come back for whatever reason, Warner's will get some new ( much cheaper ) up and coming former music video director to take over....he'll just be happy to have the job and will do whatever the studio tells him "Market research" shows the audience wants ( Less nuance, more punching...ya know,the usual ) Either that or Michael Bay, in which case we can assure at least one shoot of Supes flying slow mo through steam and/or fog....

Possibly set to Aerosmith...or whatever the 2009 equivelent is.

Yup, good times....


In other news, Hollywoodland is actually quite decent. You should all check it out.

Exactly, that is something people dont realise, If WB didnt get Singer, they would probably have got someone like Brett Ratner or Tim Story, and Singer is leaps and bounds above them both. People might dislike this movie but it isnt as bad as Catwoman, Elektra, X3 or FF, in fact it is much better than any of those movies, and Singer IS a good director, you dont get a track record like he had before SR by being lucky.

 

[Lestat74]

Exactly, that is something people dont realise, If WB didnt get Singer, they would probably have got someone like Brett Ratner or Tim Story, and Singer is leaps and bounds above them both. People might dislike this movie but it isnt as bad as Catwoman, Elektra, X3 or FF, in fact it is much better than any of those movies, and Singer IS a good director, you dont get a track record like he had before SR by being lucky.

Yes, but he didn't give the fanboys exactly what they were expecting, so he is therefore a bad director. Throwing in as much comics references, no matter how pointless they are to the story, is what a real director would do. How else do you think X3 turned out so f***in' brilliant?


That was said in my sarcasm voice, btw.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Yes, but he didn't give the fanboys exactly what they were expecting, so he is therefore a bad director. Throwing in as much comics references, no matter how pointless they are to the story, is what a real director would do. How else do you think X3 turned out so f***in' brilliant?


That was said in my sarcasm voice, btw.

God i thought you were serious for a moment then . Believe me, some people on here have said such things and been serious. But yeah Ratner and X3 are far worse than Singer and SR.

 

[nogster]

x3 might not of been of the same film making quality than SR but IMO X3 was more entertaining.
yeah it had a crappy script with silly illogical moments, some hokey dialogue and little character depth at all. it also butchered a few characters that shouldve gotten better treatment but it kicked SR's ass in the action entertainment side of things. it was like a comic book come to life. and although it was the worst of the trilogy, i will be owning it on DVD to complete the set.
i cannot say the same thing about SR.
it is just too dissapointing a superman film to add to my collection.
my expectations for x3 was far lower than that of SR. and in that regard it at least met them, if not exceeded them in some places. but SR...No. i was expecting something special. and all i got out of it was....meh......

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

^ I am completely the opposite, and i thought the plane sequence and Superman's unconscious descent form space wiped the floor with any action scene in X3. X3 just took a **** on the characters, and added some flashy SFX to poorly choreographed fight scene's, IMO of course.

 

[Fading]

^ I am completely the opposite, and i thought the plane sequence and Superman's unconscious descent form space wiped the floor with any action scene in X3. X3 just took a **** on the characters, and added some flashy SFX to poorly choreographed fight scene's, IMO of course.

Eh...I disagree myself, I know ppl trash on X3 a lot but ppl were eating it up in theatres. When Prof. X died I heard crying and a few "oh nooo" 's in there, when Jugg's said "I'm the Juggernaut *****" the audience erupted in laughter. When They did the line up for the final fight the X-Men side by side, I heard a few "Hell ****ing ya", and clapping. Sure there were bad moments, script coulda been better, and it was rushed to hell, but it was enjoyable. I'm buying the DVD as well, and I prob won't be buying the SR DVD. I think X3 had more replay value, and plenty of good fights and a few other good moments, Superman Returns was probably a better put together film but it lacked really good action.

To tell the truth it's all opinion, box offic X3 making more or not doesn't matter, each viewer likes certain movies more. I'm among the few that liked X3 on these boards so prob why I'm kinda defending it. But all in all, I honestly walked out of both of these movies, and noticed the crowds reacted much better to X3 overall. Not that SR was a bad film, but I don't feel that X3 was the huge mistake and colosal crap film everyone keeps acting like it was here lol.

Not saying you are AVEITWITHJAMON, but a lot of ppl on here act like it was the end of comic films as we know it or something lol. I do think tho it could have been better, but it was also rushed and given a sub-par director, all in all with everything against it it didn't turn out half bad. I wish it could have been given the proper backing tho.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

^Well i hated what was being done to X3 from the beginning, as soon as that script review came out that told us Cyclops dies in the first ten mins. Then to find out it was gonna be 100 mins long was a joke.

 

[Venom71]

So much Singer love....

What happens if he doesn't come back???

I'll go see the sequel with the new director on board and hope that he continues the story..I really want to see what happens next.

 

[GreenKToo]

yup,me as well..I really dont care if singer comes back or not,I just want another superman film.....

I'll go see the sequel with the new director on board and hope that he continues the story..I really want to see what happens next.

 

[The Game]

Exactly, that is something people dont realise, If WB didnt get Singer, they would probably have got someone like Brett Ratner or Tim Story, and Singer is leaps and bounds above them both. People might dislike this movie but it isnt as bad as Catwoman, Elektra, X3 or FF, in fact it is much better than any of those movies, and Singer IS a good director, you dont get a track record like he had before SR by being lucky.

Singer is not a hack by any means, but this 'track record' he seems to have has overrated writen all over it.