SR vs X3

[aaron]

I meant as in everything's possible.

Even if it's a really, really small chance... it's possible FF2 might be good.

 

[Erzengel]

I wonder which will be more disappointing for me next year?

My childhood fave of Transformers or FF2 which I will probably go in with lowered expectations for.

 

[Karea07]

FF2 will most likely be horrendous.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

I guess I'm a lil sick of the whole "It's a fun movie excuse with movies nowadays."

Yes, you know what a "fun" movie was?

Raiders of the Lost Ark
Ghostbusters
Star Wars
Groundhog Day

very fun

 

[Ronny Shade]

Yes, you know what a "fun" movie was?

Raiders of the Lost Ark
Ghostbusters
Star Wars
Groundhog Day

very fun

Fantastic Four? Not fun

 

[Kanon]

I read half of that Transformers script, and it was OK. Fantastic Four has really big chances of being better than the first one, and it looks good for me this far.

 

[Erzengel]

Yes, you know what a "fun" movie was?

Raiders of the Lost Ark
Ghostbusters
Star Wars
Groundhog Day

very fun

Agreed.

 

[Ronny Shade]

I read half of that Transformers script, and it was OK. Fantastic Four has really big chances of being better than the first one, and it looks good for me this far.

Battlefield Earth was better than Kracker Jack'd, but that doesn't mean it's any good.

 

[aaron]

I kinda liked BE.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Fantastic Four? Not fun

fun like a root canal

The only part where I felt fun in the air was when he said "Flame On!", 'cause it was the only part that looked like a comicbook come to life, but that still was soured by the contrast with %99.999999 of the rest of the rancid, warty movie.

 

[aaron]

I found FF moderately fun.

 

[Ronny Shade]

I kinda liked BE.

so did I, but you can't exactly call it "good."

 

[Kanon]

Battlefield Earth was better than Kracker Jack'd, but that doesn't mean it's any good.

I never said it would good just by being better (though I think FF wasn't really as bad as people say). I'm just saying I'm pretty sure that FF2 will be better than the first one.

 

[Ronny Shade]

fun like a root canal

The only part where I felt fun in the air was when he said "Flame On!", 'cause it was the only part that looked like a comicbook come to life, but that still was soured by the contrast with %99.999999 of the rest of the rancid, warty movie.

Except it looked sooo fake. They couldve at least had decent FX if they wanted to have such sh1tty acting and storytelling and directing and pacing.

 

[Hunter Rider]

I'm surprised how many find the action to be good and engaging and SR's character driven style boring

I'm not saying SR was perfect,it ranks medium on my list of great superhero movies and on my list of films this year but X3's action felt pointless given how little i cared about the rest of the film and the rushed nature

If I'm watching a vacuous action movie with little character or emotional involvement then give me Jaa starring or Bay directing

Also despite having more action i thought the SR plane sequence smoked all X3's action

 

[Ronny Shade]

I'm surprised how many find the action to be good and engaging and SR's character driven style boring

I'm not saying SR was perfect,it ranks medium on my list of great superhero movies and on my list of films this year but X3's action felt pointless given how little i cared about the rest of the film and the rushed nature

If I'm watching a vacuous action movie with little character or emotional involvement then give me Jaa starring or Bay directing

Also despite having more action i thought the SR plane sequence smoked all X3's action

I agree with pretty much all of that.

 

[aaron]

I'm surprised how many find the action to be good and engaging and SR's character driven style boring

I'm not saying SR was perfect,it ranks medium on my list of great superhero movies and on my list of films this year but X3's action felt pointless given how little i cared about the rest of the film and the rushed nature

If I'm watching a vacuous action movie with little character or emotional involvement then give me Jaa starring or Bay directing

Also despite having more action i thought the SR plane sequence smoked all X3's action

Agreed 100%!

 

[Kanon]

Also despite having more action i thought the SR plane sequence smoked all X3's action

I don't agree. I think the plane sequence was OK, but it wasn't great, it didn't really show Supes powers in any creative way, and it was flawed by the fact that the plane was spinning like crazy, yet the passenger weren't even bruised.
IMO, X3 bridge sequence was better, as was Magneto pushing cars aside and also the fight at Jean Grey's house

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

I'm surprised how many find the action to be good and engaging and SR's character driven style boring

No, that's the problem, I didn't see any characters.

One of my top favorite movies on Earth is John Sayles' "Lonestar" beCAUSE it's so sedate, character-driven and deftly slow.

But you've got to have engaging characters and situations to pull that off.
Lois Lane was, uh, lol, NOT "Lois Lane" at all.
Superman was like a cardboard standee. I see more character in an old Wayne Boring Drawing than in that dude.
And the Cyclops guy, again with the long-sufferring "great guy", "decent guy"...pfff.
And Spacey even said that there's no way he would've been in the movie if it weren't for that fact that his pal BS was directing and I totally felt that in every scene.

And again, that guy in the Superman clothes was not Superman. Never in a million years would "SUPERMAN" behave like that.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

I don't agree. I think the plane sequence was OK, but it wasn't great, it didn't really show Supes powers in any creative way

I just watched Spider-Man 2 last night and, action-wise, Superman was bad joke when compared.

 

[Hunter Rider]

No, that's the problem, I didn't see any characters.

One of my top favorite movies on Earth is John Sayles' "Lonestar" beCAUSE it's so sedate, character-driven and deftly slow.

But you've got to have engaging characters and situations to pull that off.
Lois Lane was, uh, lol, NOT "Lois Lane" at all.
Superman was like a cardboard standee. I see more character in an old Wayne Boring Drawing than in that dude.
And the Cyclops guy, again with the long-sufferring "great guy", "decent guy"...pfff.
And Spacey even said that there's no way he would've been in the movie if it weren't for that fact that his pal BS was directing and I totally felt that in every scene.

Well i found the little interactions (Stalking aside)very enjoyable personally,
The fact he realised his son was better off being raised by a human like him gave it some depth
Lex was unfortunately campy but i thought him and Kitty made for some fun scenes

 

[Hunter Rider]

I don't agree. I think the plane sequence was OK, but it wasn't great, it didn't really show Supes powers in any creative way, and it was flawed by the fact that the plane was spinning like crazy, yet the passenger weren't even bruised.
IMO, X3 bridge sequence was better, as was Magneto pushing cars aside and also the fight at Jean Grey's house

I't didn't show all his powers but it was staged,shot and executed beat perfect cinematically

 

[Kanon]

I think that if you change some names and circunstances, SR could have been any other superhero movie. That wouldn't be true if the movie had "character development"
I think X3 had better character development, thanks to the cure plot.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

I want to make it clear that I am not defending X3. It was ******ed.
I just, at least liked seeing Wolverine cut that guy up who kept growing limbs back and dumb action like that, whereas in the other movie that was ******ed, I get no thrill from a blue spec under giant structures.
Really the only excitement I saw was the very begining with the oldschool titles and the John Williams music and then, *bl00p*
which is sad

 

[Obsidian]

I think that if you change some names and circunstances, SR could have been any other superhero movie. That wouldn't be true if the movie had "character development"
I think X3 had better character development, thanks to the cure plot.

X3 was devoid of character development. The Cure Plot should've shown us some great development from the characters, but the director and writers demanded they just move from one action sequence to the next with sparse character moments in the middle.