Superman Returns SR's affect on the comics?

[buggs0268]

Did the Chris Reeve films affect the comics back in the 70's, I don't remember.

No. But that also could have been because of the contracts with Puzo. If you notice, the STM and S2 novelizations have nothing to do with the films because for some reason, even though he did not invent anything in Superman really, Puzo had in his contract that they could not do anything based on his treatments. The only thing I remember was the album, posters, Calendar, and set blueprints book that were any tie in's with the movie. So maybe also elements like the FOS design, which Puzo's involvement was done at that point and it was the idea of STM's production designer, were incorporated. As far as the suit, they didn't have to cary anything over from the movie to the comics as Donner had the suit made as an exact replica of what was in the comics. The only difference wat the shoulder seams, which was only there because Donner had to sign off on it at the time, but he stated had they had more time he knew they could have had a shirt with no seams.

 

[dude stannis]

The 'S' symbol became a Kryptonian symbol that the suggestion of Marlon Brando. Also I beleive General Zod was a comedy villain until Superman II came out (this is according to Richard Donner's interview with Wizard. So I may be wrong). So yeah, the Reeve films did leave their mark on the comics.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

I think if the movie is at all good, it seems to affect the comics in some way.

X-Men basically changed the look of the X-Men in the comics. I mean, didn't that film effectively have Wolverine's costume become jeans and a white t-shirt from there on in the comics too?

Batman Begins seemed to have changed the comics recently into having Joe Chill return into continuity.

And, The Fortress of Solitude just made a comback in the comics after Superman Returns.

 

[Manhunter]

Let's also not forget that had it not been for the Superman radio show the comics may never have had Superman fly, there may never have been Kryptonite, The Daily Planet would still be The Daily Star and the editor in chief would never have been called Perry White.

If it works, use it.

 

[Isildur´s Heir]

My main problem, and one i´m sure that will happen, unfortunaly, is to give a son to Superman.

 

[Manhunter]

how do you feel about them givng Zod's son to Superman?

 

[Isildur´s Heir]

how do you feel about them givng Zod's son to Superman?

Explain that again...

 

[Manhunter]

Explain that again...

Go buy Action comics' #844-845, the Donner/Kubert run, on sale now!

 

[Showtime]

Is that in any type of continuation with Returns?

 

[Manhunter]

Is that in any type of continuation with Returns?

Nein. It's Action Comics, so it's set in the here and now mainstream continuity, but they introduced teh kid with a twist.

Kubert's fond of some of SR's design elements, and Donner's a co-writer so it smells a bit like the movie, but Geoff Johns is there to make sure it's all propah.

It's only 2 issues in but it's a good read so far...

 

[Isildur´s Heir]

You say it´s only 2 issues.
Does that means it´s some type of mini-series/Elseworld kind of deal?
Or is it something to stay?

 

[Lestat74]

Not in the slightest.

ummm....the Donner film most certainly influenced the comics, sir. In 1985, when DC restarted continuity after Crisis on Infinite Earths, John Byrne was given free reign to re-start Superman for the modern era, and he looked to the movie for inspiration, as he felt the movie was in many ways the perfect version of the Superman legend. He took Krypton from the Jetsons/Flash Gordon-esque look it had had for nearly 50 years and turned it into a sparse, crystaline world where the inhabitants were removed from humanity ( with the exception of Jor-El of course ) His Kryptonians even wore long robes like the movie version. He retained Smallville, but did away with the Superboy mythology that had been a big part of Superman lore for a long time ( the movie also kept Smallville from the comics, but did away with Clark's career as Superboy ) John Byrne also stated he based his feisty career oriented Lois on Margot Kidder in Superman The Movie. Marv Wolfman was responsible for creating the modern "LexCorp Lex" that we know and love, and he has been quoted as saying that the he loved the Gene Hackman Luthor, but always wondered where he got all the money for his criminal operations. Hence, LexCorp was meant to be a means of explaining how Luthor had all this money with which to fund his criminal empire. The notion of his being CEO of LexCorp and ( to the general public ) an Upright Citizen was not meant to last as long as it did, but that's just how it worked out. Byrne added his own details of course, such as Ma and Pa kent being alive, but he was inspired by the Donner film.

I've said this before, but when it comes to comics and the media, the tail Always wags the dog; When the 40's radio show introduced Perry White, Kryptonite, and the notion of Superman flying, the comics introduced them because that's what people expected to see. When Lois and Clark got married on the show, they got married in the comics as well...the very same month. Even over at Marvel....the X-Men films had them all wearing black leather, so Grant Morrison's X-Men ( as well as Ultimate X-Men ) wore black leather too. Spider Man had organic web shooters in the movie....you get the picture. That's just how it's always been, so don't act like it's something new. And since Lois and Clark are actually married in the comics...expect a super son of their own at some point. Count on it.

 

[NotFadeAway]

That's the single dumbest thing any publisher should do. if you have a cross platform marketing tool such as a Superhero character in a film, TV show, etc. you absolutely make it sync with your character. You don't want potential new readers to go to the shop looking for the same charcarter they've seen else where and be confused because things look different. It will cost you sales.
it's also important from a creative standpoint to have all different types of interpretaions of certain characters to work from.

Your an idiot!

 

[dude stannis]

My main problem, and one i´m sure that will happen, unfortunaly, is to give a son to Superman.

They gave one (Nearly two) to Batman

 

[Lestat74]

They gave one (Nearly two) to Batman

I know one is Talia's kid from Son of the Demon, which Grant Morrison brought back. Who was the other one ( or nearly the other one)? Do you mean the revelation that Terry McGinnis is Batman's son on JLU?

I really don't mid the idea of Batman and Superman having kids...they are modern myths in my book, and the father/son dynamic and conflict has been a big part of mythology forever ( Like Zeus and Hercules, or King Arthur and Mordred ) As the DC characters are more "larger than life" than the Marvel ones, to me it fits. Plus...I just don't buy that Supes and Bats are "forever 29" anymore...especially Batman, who has raised 3 wards, the oldest who is at least 25 now. I see Batman as early 40's ( And Superman too ) Nowadays, 40 is not what it used to be. Brad Pitt is in his early 40's, as are people like George Clooney. I just don't think of it as old anymore. But maybe that's cuz I'm 32 now. In any event, old enough to be fathers for sure.

 

[Manhunter]

You say it´s only 2 issues.
Does that means it´s some type of mini-series/Elseworld kind of deal?
Or is it something to stay?

It's a story arc in Action Comics, it's no elseworld's but who knows how it'll turn out...

Spoiler

...at the end of part 2, the kryptonian child that Lois and Clark agree to adopt secretly, turns out to be the son of Zod, accompanied by Ursa and Non.

 

[Showtime]

Nein. It's Action Comics, so it's set in the here and now mainstream continuity, but they introduced teh kid with a twist.

Kubert's fond of some of SR's design elements, and Donner's a co-writer so it smells a bit like the movie, but Geoff Johns is there to make sure it's all propah.

It's only 2 issues in but it's a good read so far...

I am going to have to check it out based on your reccomendations.

 

[Manhunter]

I am going to have to check it out based on your reccomendations.

I highly reccomend both the Superman monthlies, both have been running solid storylines since Infinite Crisis ended.

Although I'm a little biased

 

[Showtime]

I highly reccomend both the Superman monthlies, both have been running solid storylines since Infinite Crisis ended.

Although I'm a little biased

I've been getting away from them a little bit, but trying to get back on track. We'll see where it takes me.

 

[BatShash]

although i don't like the idea that movies should be influenced by the the movies, still the thing with the S shield looks cool in the comics.I mean, it's ok to take some few things from the movie, BUT only if they don't affect the comic's plot. I really hope the comic writers won't create a new Character called the "the Kid"(Superman's Son in superman returns) .I really gonna commit suicide if they did.

 

[JamalYIgle]

Your an idiot!

No,I'm a working professional with actual experience who doesn't have to pull things out of his ass, unlike you. Then again ,since that's the best you can do, your opinion will no longer be considered. procreate in Isolation.

 

[Brainiac 2009]

Haha wow. Fool got PWNED.


Jamal could you repost your drawing of Brandon as Superman? I never saw it.

 

[JamalYIgle]

Haha wow. Fool got PWNED.


Jamal could you repost your drawing of Brandon as Superman? I never saw it.

Here you go.and just as a little bonus

 

[dude stannis]

I know one is Talia's kid from Son of the Demon, which Grant Morrison brought back. Who was the other one ( or nearly the other one)? Do you mean the revelation that Terry McGinnis is Batman's son on JLU?

I really don't mid the idea of Batman and Superman having kids...they are modern myths in my book, and the father/son dynamic and conflict has been a big part of mythology forever ( Like Zeus and Hercules, or King Arthur and Mordred ) As the DC characters are more "larger than life" than the Marvel ones, to me it fits. Plus...I just don't buy that Supes and Bats are "forever 29" anymore...especially Batman, who has raised 3 wards, the oldest who is at least 25 now. I see Batman as early 40's ( And Superman too ) Nowadays, 40 is not what it used to be. Brad Pitt is in his early 40's, as are people like George Clooney. I just don't think of it as old anymore. But maybe that's cuz I'm 32 now. In any event, old enough to be fathers for sure.

Catwoman was pregnant. Batman was the obvious choice. Turns out Sam Bradley is the daddy. (Congradulations DC, you made one of your most popular female characters out to be a massive ****).

Murder/Fugitive put Bruce at 34. Then Death and Maidens put him at 33. Since they're a few years old, he's in his late thirties until the next storyline says otherwise. Mind you realistically I'd put him at 42 to 44. Same with Superman.

 

[GoldGoblin]

Then I guess someone should have made look like how he is in the comics so that it absolutely sync's "...with your character. You don't want potential new readers to go to the shop looking for the same charcarter they've seen else where and be confused because things look different." Someone in your Corporation should have told Singer that. Superman on a 2006 cover.

And Singerman

Big shield. Red not maroon. No 3-D small S. No crew neck. Different cape attachments. No Guci belt. Granny panty cut shorts. No garden boots. No wonder why viewers went to the theaters looking for the same charcarter they've seen else where and got confused because things look different.

^That suit looks awesome in the movie,the Christoper Reeve suit is the one that doesn't look good,it's too cheesy.