Stan Lee wants ANOTHER Hulk reboot?

[Kirmit]

Just wondering, has anyone ever tried a manip of the 'Hulk' body with the 'TIH' head and skin colour? I think it would look really cool but unfortunately I don't have the skills to do it myself.

 

[kedrell]

Billy Crudup would make a good Banner.

Liv Tyler was pretty cringe worthy as well. I don't know if it was the acting itself, or her pouty lips saying "Oh, Bruce" every 5 seconds. Connelly was a much better Betty, depressing as she comes off in alot of her movies.

I'm still fixated on Ashley Judd as Betty Ross. If this movie was done some years back she would have been perfect; but then again, the CG technology wouldn't be where it is today. I have no problem with her current age, but the studio and some others might.

Judd could have done well but I have issues with how both films portrayed Betty.

Maybe it's just me, but I am sick of them making Betty a scientist in these films. She's not a scientist. She's an every-woman, ordinary type. Hell, even if they went the ultimate route and made her the PR person for the gamma project that'd be an improvement. The thing with Betty not being a scientist is that it always allowed her to be the eyes through which the audience viewed the Hulk/Banner scenario. Very few ingenues ever get written as merely ordinary people. They're always professionals of some sort and that makes their view of the hero different from the audience's(who are mostly made up of Joe-blo's). That's something I always liked about Betty, but they felt the need to woman's lib her away from her roots in these films. Now you may say that Rick Jones's supposed to be the guy who the audience sees thru(and to an extent he is) but he's also the comedic relief and that changes his dynamic in a sense, IMO.

 

[Sarg92]

Just wondering, has anyone ever tried a manip of the 'Hulk' body with the 'TIH' head and skin colour? I think it would look really cool but unfortunately I don't have the skills to do it myself.

I had a quick attempt at it; gives you a rough idea!

 

[Kirmit]

I think that looks pretty decent sarg, good job. I'd add a few veins here and there, the skin looks too smooth to me but apart from that, I think it's a good hulk design. It's not overly muscular like TIH and doesn't have the babyface of Anghulk, take the best points from both movie's designs and we've got the perfect hulk for The Avengers IMO.

 

[Boom]

Have to agree. I'm not suggesting we get a blob of a Hulk, but when I hear the word "hulk," I don't think "ripped."

But that may just be me.

 

[Boom]

i remember when the hulk's head for TIH was first released, everyone loved it. What messed it up in the movie is that, as with Hulk 2003, they tried too hard to make the Hulk resemble the actor that was playing Banner; they tweaked the design and made him look more like Norton. The Hulk should look like a monster.

Oh my God. How in the world did I forget about that picture? That design is flat-out perfect in every sense of the word.

Just picture that rendered by ILM or Weta.

 

[thorstone]

The Hulk should have just been the villain in Iron Man-- two birds, one stone.

 

[Sarg92]

Have to agree. I'm not suggesting we get a blob of a Hulk, but when I hear the word "hulk," I don't think "ripped."

But that may just be me.

[YT]HWPJO3e2NoI[/YT]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWPJO3e2NoI

Check out the video; it shows Hulk with bulkier builds but also gives reasons why they decided to go for a slender looking Hulk compared to Ang's Hulk.

 

[El Payaso]

Is it me or Norton was actually directing and Leterrier was there just trying to keep control? :P

 

[Hmarrs]

why does Hmarrs use all caps and get so pissed? Like, I'm not being a ass...but seriously...

No.no I apologize I don't mean it that way.I Just get excited like two guys discussing a Football game or a Boxing match.I keep forgetting that in words typed unlike words being spoken theire is no infliction.I am not mad I promise.

 

[Sarg92]

Is it me or Norton was actually directing and Leterrier was there just trying to keep control? :P

Haha! It does look like that from the video but they both were collaborating on the film. Norton and Roth both said they loved working with Leterrier. Norton says Leterrier is one of the best people he worked with and Roth said that he would only do a TIH2 if Leterrier directed it.

Norton only signed up for TIH if he was allowed to rewrite the script and to have creative control. He actively worked with Leterrier to make sure that they produced a great film; I even read that he is an uncredited producer and even unofficially directed the second unit teams. Norton fought for a better cut and so did Leterrier to some extent but it seems to me that he gets to easily screwed over by studios! He doesn't fight for what he wants!


http://www.**************.com/avengers/news/?a=15883

Watch the video in the link above. It is an interview with Norton where he says that he would like Leterrier to direct The Avengers and says that he wished Marvel gave more free reign to Leterrier whilst making TIH like how Warner Brothers did to Chris Nolan when making TDK. Norton and Leterrier wanted to go darker with TIH but Marvel weren't comfortable with it. Remember Avi Arad saying TIH would be "Hulk Lite".

http://www.**************.com/fansites/joshw24/news/?a=16407

And finally, watch the video in the link above. Leterrier says how his and Norton's ideas were turned down by Marvel due to money and time. He was rushed making the film and the end product was a good film but not the great film that could have been.

 

[Timstuff]

There were a lot of good deleted scenes on the TIH Blu-Ray, and a lot of crappy ones as well. I remember Leterrier saying on one of the bonus features that there was a lot of struggle to figure out which direction they wanted to take the movie in, whether to make it funnier or darker. Ultimately they settled somewhere in the middle, but I think it would have been better if they'd left some of the more dramatic content in there, like Bruce's conversation with Betty's boyfriend, and the additional scene at the end where the boyfriend fesses up about having called the authorities about Bruce.

 

[OB12]

yeah, I felt those scenes with Doc Samson would've given the film a little more depth and probably would've provided an opportunity to slow down just a bit. I really like TIH but it sprints from the beginning to the end and you almost feel like a little more dialogue could help pace it a bit.

 

[Golgo-13]

Oh my God. How in the world did I forget about that picture? That design is flat-out perfect in every sense of the word.

Just picture that rendered by ILM or Weta.

They mucked it up by trying to blend Norton's face into the final look.

TIH was flawed, as was Angs Hulk film. I don't know why we couldn't just get the gamma bomb style origin. Yes, that subjuct is very 60's but updating a massive explosion for todays audience can be done quite simply since we still have nuclear weapons in this day and age, and they're still tested somewhere. I remembering getting into this debate with many who said that this idea was dated, but it's not if you think about it. Every super power in the world today has a nuclear program, and they all have nuclear bombs. It's not so hard to incorporate this into Hulk's origin. The two origins we got from films 1 and 2 felts so lackluster. In makes perfect sense that the mightiest mortal on earth, be created accidentally by the most feared weapon/science on earth - nuclear!

When Stan said he wanted this re-booted i think he meant he wanted rick Jones, and the whole sha-bang in it - in that respect, i agree with him.

 

[jadejaws]

They mucked it up by trying to blend Norton's face into the final look.

TIH was flawed, as was Angs Hulk film. I don't know why we couldn't just get the gamma bomb style origin. Yes, that subjuct is very 60's but updating a massive explosion for todays audience can be done quite simply since we still have nuclear weapons in this day and age, and they're still tested somewhere. I remembering getting into this debate with many who said that this idea was dated, but it's not if you think about it. Every super power in the world today has a nuclear program, and they all have nuclear bombs. It's not so hard to incorporate this into Hulk's origin. The two origins we got from films 1 and 2 felts so lackluster. In makes perfect sense that the mightiest mortal on earth, be created accidentally by the most feared weapon/science on earth - nuclear!

When Stan said he wanted this re-booted i think he meant he wanted rick Jones, and the whole sha-bang in it - in that respect, i agree with him.

I like, and COMPLETELY agree with, your argument on the gamma bomb origin.

 

[Golgo-13]

The Hulk should have just been the villain in Iron Man-- two birds, one stone.

Why?

Why does everyone treat Hulk as though he's this second rate character lately?

I've noticed people thinking towards Hulk change ever since Iron Man 1 came out, and blew everyone away. I saw people posting that one of the best scenes in TIH was the Tony Starks scene. I continue hearing people saying "Make him the villain in Avengers" Throw him in here; throw him in there";"he doesn't need a sequel until after Avengers" blah, blah, blah. Are people forgetting how huge of a character Hulk is (no pun indeeded)......? Hulk is Marvel's second biggest and most iconic character after Spider-Man. Making him a secondary character in any movie is like making Super-Man, Bat-Man's side-kick simply because Batman Begins and TDK were such huge hits, and Super-Man Returns was an overall failed re-boot. DC has two iconic heavy hitters that define their brand; Super-Man and Bat-Man. Marvel's main two are Spider-Man and Hulk. It's been that way ever since these characters were created all those decades ago; and the likes of Iron-Man, with all his recent success, will NEVER dethrone those two.

Certain characters just need their own movies. Super-Man, Hulk, Spider-Man, Bat-Man and like, definitely meet that criteria.

 

[El Payaso]

There were a lot of good deleted scenes on the TIH Blu-Ray, and a lot of crappy ones as well. I remember Leterrier saying on one of the bonus features that there was a lot of struggle to figure out which direction they wanted to take the movie in, whether to make it funnier or darker. Ultimately they settled somewhere in the middle, but I think it would have been better if they'd left some of the more dramatic content in there, like Bruce's conversation with Betty's boyfriend, and the additional scene at the end where the boyfriend fesses up about having called the authorities about Bruce.

It was even worse: they tried to do both.

For me it was disgusting how at one point they were trying to go for actual drama and the next second they'd throw some idiotic joke about bad Portuguese translation or Banner's impossibility of a sexual life.

By the moment when they were trying to go all drama with Banner jumping from the plane (or helicopter) and he suddenly went "SH * T" everyone in the cinema could hear my eyes rolling.

That kind of out of place and forced humour killed the movie for me.

 

[Sava]

Why?

Why does everyone treat Hulk as though he's this second rate character lately?

I've noticed people thinking towards Hulk change ever since Iron Man 1 came out, and blew everyone away. I saw people posting that one of the best scenes in TIH was the Tony Starks scene. I continue hearing people saying "Make him the villain in Avengers" Throw him in here; throw him in there";"he doesn't need a sequel until after Avengers" blah, blah, blah. Are people forgetting how huge of a character Hulk is (no pun indeeded)......? Hulk is Marvel's second biggest and most iconic character after Spider-Man. Making him a secondary character in any movie is like making Super-Man, Bat-Man's side-kick simply because Batman Begins and TDK were such huge hits, and Super-Man Returns was an overall failed re-boot. DC has two iconic heavy hitters that define their brand; Super-Man and Bat-Man. Marvel's main two are Spider-Man and Hulk. It's been that way ever since these characters were created all those decades ago; and the likes of Iron-Man, with all his recent success, will NEVER dethrone those two.

Certain characters just need their own movies. Super-Man, Hulk, Spider-Man, Bat-Man and like, definitely meet that criteria.

*claps* i think i love you ...

 

[Rumpy Bulge Dubz]

Why?


Certain characters just need their own movies. Super-Man, Hulk, Spider-Man, Bat-Man and like, definitely meet that criteria.

I know this is just nit picking, but seriously, you've got to quit puting hyphens inbetween EVERY SINGLE NAME. There is no hyphen between Bat and Man, nor is there one between Super and Man. It's Batman and Superman

Spider-Man is the ONLY character that I can think of that has a hyphen between the first and second part of the name. The rest, no hyphens

 

[Sarg92]

Why?

Why does everyone treat Hulk as though he's this second rate character lately?

I've noticed people thinking towards Hulk change ever since Iron Man 1 came out, and blew everyone away. I saw people posting that one of the best scenes in TIH was the Tony Starks scene. I continue hearing people saying "Make him the villain in Avengers" Throw him in here; throw him in there";"he doesn't need a sequel until after Avengers" blah, blah, blah. Are people forgetting how huge of a character Hulk is (no pun indeeded)......? Hulk is Marvel's second biggest and most iconic character after Spider-Man. Making him a secondary character in any movie is like making Super-Man, Bat-Man's side-kick simply because Batman Begins and TDK were such huge hits, and Super-Man Returns was an overall failed re-boot. DC has two iconic heavy hitters that define their brand; Super-Man and Bat-Man. Marvel's main two are Spider-Man and Hulk. It's been that way ever since these characters were created all those decades ago; and the likes of Iron-Man, with all his recent success, will NEVER dethrone those two.

Certain characters just need their own movies. Super-Man, Hulk, Spider-Man, Bat-Man and like, definitely meet that criteria.

The thing is, it seems Marvel themselves are treating Hulk as a second rate character!

Joe Carnahan said in an interview that he was approached to direct The Avengers and he says the stuff that they have planned is awesome. One thing he mentioned is that Marvel were or are thinking of having Hulk as the main villain in the film with him causing destruction in Manhattan and the Avengers come to stop him. What is even worse if that he said Marvel are have decided or are deciding to make Hulk into a villain so that it kills off any possibility of there being a TIH franchise!

 

[Cracker Jack]

The two origins we got from films 1 and 2 felts so lackluster. In makes perfect sense that the mightiest mortal on earth, be created accidentally by the most feared weapon/science on earth - nuclear!

When Stan said he wanted this re-booted i think he meant he wanted rick Jones, and the whole sha-bang in it - in that respect, i agree with him.

If they were to "re-boot" (My opinion it will never happen) I would love this to happenin New Mexico, where it should have happened in the first place! He's always drawn back there for some reason, which still "Has never been explained". The thing about explaining this is after you do, where's the mystery? I've said this millions of times, Where did the Hulk come from? Was it the Gamma Bomb or was he always there? are the things that kept me buying the comic each month. And couldn't wait to read it. To see what happened next.

 

[Golgo-13]

The thing is, it seems Marvel themselves are treating Hulk as a second rate character!

Joe Carnahan said in an interview that he was approached to direct The Avengers and he says the stuff that they have planned is awesome. One thing he mentioned is that Marvel were or are thinking of having Hulk as the main villain in the film with him causing destruction in Manhattan and the Avengers come to stop him. What is even worse if that he said Marvel are have decided or are deciding to make Hulk into a villain so that it kills off any possibility of there being a TIH franchise!

Yeah, but why are they doing this? Because of the box office numbers? Let's pretend that instead of the film we got in 2003, we had the 2008 film in it's place, so TIH would be the first Hulk film and the Ang one didn't exist. TIH, as it stands, would have been alot more successful than it is right now, and we would be well into a third Hulk film in that franchise just like Spider-Man.

I think Marvel has hot themselves in the foot making TIH so soon after the Ang film; not promoting it as a re-boot, and doing the most piss poor marketing campaign i've ever seen for a big hero to go with it. They tried re-booting Punisher, with even more devastating results. Now they're re-booting Spider-Man. They're talking about re-booting F4, yet cast one of it's stars in another franchise; Cap America. They cast within their own movie-verse, which is like in-breeding in my opinion. What kinda system do they have over there, where they need to re-cast the same actors in different roles throughout their properties with hundreds of thousands of other talented actors and actresses out there? Ray Stevenson was Punisher and now he's in Thor; Donal Logue was a baddie in Blade 1 then he was Ghost Riders side-kick; Rebecca Stomas in X-Men and then in the first Punisher movie. This really takes me out of whole Marvel-verse as one concept.

I do agree that some re-boots are needed, but with TIH they really needed to take a step back and give it time, instead of rushing it out. As much as i want another Hulk re-boot done faithfully, i think re-booting yet again will only add more gasoline to the fire.

 

[Gabe99]

IESB Wizard World Anaheim Interview: Stan Lee on Iron Man 2, Ant-Man, Thor, Joss Whedon Directing The Avengers, the Spider-Man Reboot, a Third Hulk Reboot and Much More!

From Worst Previews April 19th, 2010:
Stan Lee Wants "The Incredible Hulk" Rebooted

Lee is not talking about a sequel to Edward Norton's movie. He's talking about a reboot, with a different director and a different actor. But that will likely never happen, since even he admits that The Hulk will appear in "The Avengers." And if Norton is brought back for that, it will be very difficult to later replace him.

Stan might get his wish now.

 

[Son of Coul]

TIH has been integrated into the MCU's timeline. A follow-up may get a different director and lead actor, but it is not getting rebooted, as the events in TIH have taken place within the MCU established.

 

[Rumpy Bulge Dubz]

It was even worse: they tried to do both.

For me it was disgusting how at one point they were trying to go for actual drama and the next second they'd throw some idiotic joke about bad Portuguese translation or Banner's impossibility of a sexual life.

By the moment when they were trying to go all drama with Banner jumping from the plane (or helicopter) and he suddenly went "SH * T" everyone in the cinema could hear my eyes rolling.

That kind of out of place and forced humour killed the movie for me.

Really?

"To Each His Own" couldn't be more true I guess

as I LOVED all of the comedy in TIH and felt NOTHING was out of place

god I just love that movie in general