Stan Lee wants ANOTHER Hulk reboot?

[GhostPoet]

I think they've opened the way to having a talking Hulk in the next one...based on the ending

 

[El Payaso]

I really really liked TIH. And probably im going to hell to some of you guys, but I had a better time watching Hulk fighting Abomination than Iron Man fighting Jeff Bridges.

The story was good and the action was great.

That Hulk-Abomination last fight was indeed better than Iron Man vs Obediah. But as a whole IM was the better movie.

 

[Dark Hulkness]

I loved the incredible hulk with ed norton doesnt need another reboot, just make a sequel keep him intelligent ed nortons movie did it right

 

[Golgo-13]

Agreed. Banner was a compelling character and you really felt for him. The Hulk's first appearance was very dramatic and memorable. The gamma chair countdown was very suspenseful and filled with tension, and the whole sequence from there until his transformation played out like a classic horror movie. Hulk should have some elements of gothic horror like Frankenstein and should even be a little scary. His transformation in the thunderstorm was eerie, especially when his eyes flared white for the first time and he had no idea what was happening to him. Neither of the Hulk's two debut appearances in either movie matched up to the first appearance of the Hulk in the pilot.

The TV pilot was the most like "Hulk Begins" with the focus on him and his predicament, and you were totally engrossed and intrigued in the story without even realising that a villain was completely absent.

What was great about the pilot and his origin was that he was obsessively driven to infuse himself with gamma rays for a personal reason, because his wife had died, and not just simply for the sake of scientific experiment. That's what ultimately made his Hulk problem even more tragic and ironic, because he so desired this strength before that, but once he had it, it became his curse. It's almost as if he had sold his soul and then realised that he had gotten more than he had bargained for and that it was a double-edged sword. Then his quest to get rid of the Hulk was even more obsessive than his quest to tap into that hidden strength in the first place.

If that element had been incorporated into the movie adaptations, that would've made it more poignant. Maybe he would've adapted the super soldier serum because a former love (maybe his wife) died (before he was involved with Betty) and not just because General Ross wanted him to resurrect the SSS. Then maybe Betty could've taken the place of Elaina Marks (but not died).

I agree 100%. The tv show pilot is timeless. The first transformation; what i loved about it was the fact that even after the metamorphosis had begun, Banner continued to change the tire because, like you said, he had no idea of the gravity as to what was happening. The second transformation scene is my favorite. Not because of the Hulk himself but because of Susan Sullivan's (Elaina Marks) great performance in that scene, as she verbally documents what's going on into the tape recorder.

Anyhow, since we're talking about the show, question; what's the ep where Banner hulks out while going through a sand/rock crushing roller machine and comes out on the other end as the Hulk on a conveyer belt? I've looked through all 5 seasons of the dvd but i can't seem to find that ep.....

 

[El Payaso]

I agree 100%. The tv show pilot is timeless. The first transformation; what i loved about it was the fact that even after the metamorphosis had begun, Banner continued to change the tire because, like you said, he had no idea of the gravity as to what was happening. The second transformation scene is my favorite. Not because of the Hulk himself but because of Susan Sullivan's (Elaina Marks) great performance in that scene, as she verbally documents what's going on into the tape recorder.

Anyhow, since we're talking about the show, question; what's the ep where Banner hulks out while going through a sand/rock crushing roller machine and comes out on the other end as the Hulk on a conveyer belt? I've looked through all 5 seasons of the dvd but i can't seem to find that ep.....

I think that episode is "Behind the Wheel." Season three.

 

[Golgo-13]

^Thanks, you're right. I remember the first Hulk out where he gets his hand slammed in the door, but over looked the rest of the ep.

 

[hulk4life]

From the main page :


I love Stan but....

Although it is the FIRST TIME he has ever said something that wasn't completely positive about a marvel movie

they should make the real hulk, as in the one who gets stronger when his angry, the one who has almost infinite strength!!

 

[Hmarrs]

that blame sits with both I think....Norton likes to be heavily involved in films he's in, he likes to do rewrites and have input....and that stuff is all well and good with original films or indie films...but this is stuff that has 30-40 years of history behind it....that kind of tinkering is not required

and I hope what happened here will let other actors know who go to work with Marvel Studios that these roles are not for your benefit, for you to "put your own stamp on"....these are established characters that already have all that background

Yeah now if we can only get Marvel to understand that.

 

[Isildur´s Heir]

I loved Ang Lee´s Hulk.
IMO, the second best comic book so far, only dethroned by the glorious The Dark Knight.
The movie is not perfect, but is the only comic book movie that GOT the character.

The Incredible Hulk is one giant mess.
Great cast (Norton, Hurt and Roth)...and it has great special effects....aannndd....that´s it.

So yeah, i go with Lee...remake the damn franchise

 

[Rock Sexton]

I loved Ang Lee´s Hulk.
IMO, the second best comic book so far, only dethroned by the glorious The Dark Knight.
The movie is not perfect, but is the only comic book movie that GOT the character.

The Incredible Hulk is one giant mess.
Great cast (Norton, Hurt and Roth)...and it has great special effects....aannndd....that´s it.

So yeah, i go with Lee...remake the damn franchise

Completely disagree. Ang's was some poor attempt at a psycholigal-ride via the Hulk's character. Not only was the Hulk's physical depiction too large, so was the attempt to explain Hulk's psyche. I mean daddy issues? I'm sorry, but IMO the average audience goer doesn't want to get quite that deep with a large green beast.

TIH felt and looked like a comic book movie should. By far and away my favorite of all the Marvel movies so far. I absolutely loved the opening sequence explaining the first first Hulk-out. Everyone meshed well with their character seamlessly. Hurt's General Ross, Norton's Banner, Roth's Blonksy, and Blake-Nelson's Sam Sterns was just perfect perfect perfect. I know that Norton was replaced, but I hope they bring these people back. There were plenty of nods and easter eggs for the rest of the movie universe .... particularly Captain America where we first get a glimpse of what a super soldier could do on the battle field. That entire campus fight scene was epic.

Just an awesome movie. Watching it now as I type this.

 

[Rock Sexton]

Did anyone catch this little tidbit from Tim Blake Nelson when asked if he was signed on for more films ....

“I am, but it’s a question as to whether they’ll make more movies, which was the [original] intention, or whether they’ll take a fresh start with the villains, since they switched Bruce Banner to Mark Ruffalo. I certainly very much want to return as the Leader and I hope they’ll have me. The intention was that I would come back, which is why my head starts to, um, bubble, at the end. It’s just a question as to whether a) they’re going to make more Hulk movies, and b) because of Ruffalo, if they’re going to use me again.”

 

[Isildur´s Heir]

It´s great that you liked TIH, but to me it was nothing more than Hulk Smash galore with nothing more to it.
Personaly, i like my movies with a little more brain to them.
Besides, and like i said before, Lee´s Hulk was about the character, really getting into who he is, and there is most of the comic book movies really fail, as they are not about the man behind the mask (or the powers), but about the superhero and how far can he kick your ass.
For example, imo, the best cb movie is without a doubt The Dark Knight, but it works mainly because it follows Batman Begins, so every flaw the movie has comes from the first movie and Batman Begins is not a great Batman adaptation to begin with (but a great movie notheless).
The same applies to X-Men 2...

Like i also said Lee´s Hulk is not perfect, but is the only cb movie that really wanted to get into who the character is.
Hulk is a physical manifestation of Banner´s repressed feelings, his father crucial to that all, he is not a physical being, he is a physical emotion.
Ang Lee got that almost perfectly (almost being the key word), no other comic book movie so far came close to that explanation of what the characters are.
The problem was not that it got to deep into who Hulk psyche but everything else, it was sold as an action movie which clearly wasn´t and the editing didn´t helped either (i liked it, but was overused).

 

[Rock Sexton]

It´s great that you liked TIH, but to me it was nothing more than Hulk Smash galore with nothing more to it.
Personaly, i like my movies with a little more brain to them.
Besides, and like i said before, Lee´s Hulk was about the character, really getting into who he is, and there is most of the comic book movies really fail, as they are not about the man behind the mask (or the powers), but about the superhero and how far can he kick your ass.
For example, imo, the best cb movie is without a doubt The Dark Knight, but it works mainly because it follows Batman Begins, so every flaw the movie has comes from the first movie and Batman Begins is not a great Batman adaptation to begin with (but a great movie notheless).
The same applies to X-Men 2...

Like i also said Lee´s Hulk is not perfect, but is the only cb movie that really wanted to get into who the character is.
Hulk is a physical manifestation of Banner´s repressed feelings, his father crucial to that all, he is not a physical being, he is a physical emotion.
Ang Lee got that almost perfectly (almost being the key word), no other comic book movie so far came close to that explanation of what the characters are.
The problem was not that it got to deep into who Hulk psyche but everything else, it was sold as an action movie which clearly wasn´t and the editing didn´t helped either (i liked it, but was overused).

The irony is that I'm a fanatic for movies that make me think. I just think it's the wrong forum for it with Hulk. Again just my opinion. That's why I preferred TIH because the tone was perfectly comic book to me.

 

[Golgo-13]

Replace the horribly design cg Hulk from Ang's film; add in the one from TIH and you've got a pretty solid flick. I mentioned this before, but there is not one 'lo'l moment in Ang's entire movie...not one. Even the saddest movies have at least one moment of humor. Every character in Ang's Hulk was either depressed, angry or obsesses with something, so it's no wonder ppl don't like re-watching it.

 

[returntovoid]

A new high-budget Hulk TV show for ABC is being pitched with Guillermo del toro and producer David Elk involved.

Stan has got nothing to worry about if that happens.

 

[Stripesy Strip]

It´s great that you liked TIH, but to me it was nothing more than Hulk Smash galore with nothing more to it.
Personaly, i like my movies with a little more brain to them.
Besides, and like i said before, Lee´s Hulk was about the character, really getting into who he is, and there is most of the comic book movies really fail, as they are not about the man behind the mask (or the powers), but about the superhero and how far can he kick your ass.
For example, imo, the best cb movie is without a doubt The Dark Knight, but it works mainly because it follows Batman Begins, so every flaw the movie has comes from the first movie and Batman Begins is not a great Batman adaptation to begin with (but a great movie notheless).
The same applies to X-Men 2...

Like i also said Lee´s Hulk is not perfect, but is the only cb movie that really wanted to get into who the character is.
Hulk is a physical manifestation of Banner´s repressed feelings, his father crucial to that all, he is not a physical being, he is a physical emotion.
Ang Lee got that almost perfectly (almost being the key word), no other comic book movie so far came close to that explanation of what the characters are.
The problem was not that it got to deep into who Hulk psyche but everything else, it was sold as an action movie which clearly wasn´t and the editing didn´t helped either (i liked it, but was overused).

Lee's Hulk is an almost masterpiece because it's a great sci-fi movie in its own right and Ang Lee tried to reach further than the normal action super-hero flick.

But there's too much time spent with Hulk's father and Bruce's childhood. The whole thing was a bad idea to begin with and drags the story so much. If they could just recut all the childhood bits and start at the moment of the gamma globe that is progected into Bruce, it flows better. Also I didn't think Bana and Connely were that good choices for Bruce and Betty. It's two actors I don't like much, they have the same face expression in every scene. But no movie Banner has ever delivered, even Norton so. Esp. if you compare to Bill Bixby that was an emotional roll-coaster ride in his eyes, his whole being. the guy felt so genuine. Not artsy-type of acting there.

I prefered the monster in this movie, he felt like a element force, something unique. It was amazing seeing him and the scenes with him fighting the military with the tanks and so forth in the desert were pure bliss.

Finally replace Samuel Stern aka The Leader in Ang Lee's Hulk instead of the father/Nick Nolte and it would have GREAT. They could have had Stern being a mix of The Leader, Lieutenant Talbot and the Russian spy that became the Abomination and eliminate the Betty Ross blond boyfriend that is working for the military. Have the character play with Bruce, tourment him and trying to get his blood also and having a past with Betty. It could either be named Talbot or Stern but he would be working for different masters, for Generald Ross, for the Russians and having all the suspiscions of someone being a spy, using that to frame Banner. But what the guy really wants is his Hulk's blood for his own gain.

 

[Stripesy Strip]

I think the next version of Hulk will have to be the shape of Ang Lee's Hulk and the haircut, the size and color of Norton's Hulk and he would have to talk.

Maybe they will swerve us and put the Grey Hulk in the Avengers instead. When Hulk joined the Avengers he did have the Grey Hulk personality(sort of Dirty Harry).

 

[Golgo-13]

All i want from a Hulk re-boot is a Gamma bomb style origin, instead of the sissy, low key accidents we've gotten in the last two movies. It's only fitting that the mightest mortal on earth be create by the most feared destructive weapon ever created by man; nuclear science.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Incredible Hulk is the best Marvel comics movie, it doesn't need a reboot, instead it needs more recognition as a great film

I loved Ang Lee´s Hulk.
IMO, the second best comic book so far, only dethroned by the glorious The Dark Knight.
The movie is not perfect, but is the only comic book movie that GOT the character.

The Incredible Hulk is one giant mess.
Great cast (Norton, Hurt and Roth)...and it has great special effects....aannndd....that´s it.

• So yeah, i go with Lee...remake the damn franchise

• Main plot of Ang Lee's Hulk is good, but if you look how it moves forward?
• We first hear screams from kitchen in the house of the Banner's, no one came out
• Genetically, Bruce is trying to complete what his father was trying to accomplish? WTF?!
• David tampers with the gamma device, and the next day it suddenly goes haywire trying to blow up when David's tampering was the kind that makes the machine dysfunctional
• First time Bruce Hulks out is just too forced, he had some rights to be stressed, but they just got him overworking his stress pointlessly
• Gamma Dogs? They look good on paper, but in a high budgeted movie? WTF?!
• A drugged Bruce Banner in a tank suddenly Hulks Out?
• It's revealed that David tried to kill his son, Bruce's mom didn't want that to happen, she got stabbed and jumped out to the bomb range, and it kill her without radiation actually reaching? WTF?!!
• David reveals he considers Hulk his true son, Bruce is just a weak crust. Again, WTF?!!
• Bruce get nuked, he doesn't Hulk Out, then he is in south America? I know I bored you with this one, but it's a major WTF?!!!

Incredible Hulk story has a great flow, only scene that doesn't make sense is Bruce trying to control the Hulk. That point if left for a great sequel could at least be a good explanation for the change from Savage Hulk to the Professor.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

All i want from a Hulk re-boot is a Gamma bomb style origin, instead of the sissy, low key accidents we've gotten in the last two movies. It's only fitting that the mightest mortal on earth be create by the most feared destructive weapon ever created by man; nuclear science.

First you praise the origin of the 70s series, then you consider the Incredible Hulk a movie with a sissy origin? Trying to emit the super soldier formula is much more reasonable

 

[Sava]

Incredible Hulk is the best Marvel comics movie, it doesn't need a reboot, instead it needs more recognition as a great film

• Main plot of Ang Lee's Hulk is good, but if you look how it moves forward?
• We first hear screams from kitchen in the house of the Banner's, no one came out
• Genetically, Bruce is trying to complete what his father was trying to accomplish? WTF?!
• David tampers with the gamma device, and the next day it suddenly goes haywire trying to blow up when David's tampering was the kind that makes the machine dysfunctional
• First time Bruce Hulks out is just too forced, he had some rights to be stressed, but they just got him overworking his stress pointlessly
• Gamma Dogs? They look good on paper, but in a high budgeted movie? WTF?!
• A drugged Bruce Banner in a tank suddenly Hulks Out?
• It's revealed that David tried to kill his son, Bruce's mom didn't want that to happen, she got stabbed and jumped out to the bomb range, and it kill her without radiation actually reaching? WTF?!!
• David reveals he considers Hulk his true son, Bruce is just a weak crust. Again, WTF?!!
• Bruce get nuked, he doesn't Hulk Out, then he is in south America? I know I bored you with this one, but it's a major WTF?!!!

Incredible Hulk story has a great flow, only scene that doesn't make sense is Bruce trying to control the Hulk. That point if left for a great sequel could at least be a good explanation for the change from Savage Hulk to the Professor.

Bruce trying to complete what his father did without knowing it, is like what Ross says in teh movie, the guy is damned, its like he's cursed by his father to follow what the did.

I dont know about the first hulk out, i dont see whats so pointless about any of it, the guy finds out that there is something inside him that stops him from dieing but is slowly taking over more and more of his body, he finds out what he thought he knew about his childhood is all a lie, he finds out that he has a father, his GF's father is trying to seperate him from his girl add to all of this that he's a guy who bottles up EVERYTHING, all it need was a little thing to make him explode. People are like this all the time, they bottle things up for years and years and then, a little thing makes them go bats**t crazy.

The gamma dogs bit is all your opinion, so thats fine with me, i thought it was awesome. I wish we got the full scene Ang wanted but what we got was just great anyway.

Bruce hulking out in that water tank wasnt like he just thought he should do it for fun, he just found out that his mother died trying to protect him, she died because of him and he just stood there watching it all, did nothing to help her. Thats alot of anger and gilt there, by now, he's already hulk'd out and Hulk doesnt need all that much to get out anymore. Plus, they were drilling into his back, that s**t alone would piss off person enough to get him to hulk out.

Bruces' mom dieing was in thier garden, not the bomb range, radiation didnt get that far because they locked down the facility. David just wanted a distraction to get to his son.

Think of the type of person David is, he's a real man's man, a real in your face type of guy and his son is not, he created Hulk. So you get the meaning of what he's saying, Hulk is his real son, that was he think and says because he wants Bruce to get jealous and angry at him.

Bruce getting nuked in the end was like a knockout blow to Hulk, Hulk was giving his all to beat his father, he did but before he could do anything else, the militery sucker punched him. THe scene in South America was months and months later, by that time, i'm sure Hulk got his energy back.

 

[Micromind]

TIH is more entertaining movie than Hulk, but Ang Lee's Hulk is a more complex and mature movie, it also feels more complete movie.

For me, TIH is a good movie and Edward Norton's performance is better than Bana's but as a whole movie package,

Ang Lee's HULK >> TIH.

And, NO I don't want another HULK reboot, just get Hulk into Avenges.

I don't know what Stan Lee is thinking, seriously, no Studio can be bothered to make another Hulk movie at this stage ( Same for Punisher movie) because they have already got Two chances (3 in case of Punisher.)

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Bruce trying to complete what his father did without knowing it, is like what Ross says in teh movie, the guy is damned, its like he's cursed by his father to follow what the did.

Bleh

I dont know about the first hulk out, i dont see whats so pointless about any of it, the guy finds out that there is something inside him that stops him from dieing but is slowly taking over more and more of his body, he finds out what he thought he knew about his childhood is all a lie, he finds out that he has a father, his GF's father is trying to seperate him from his girl add to all of this that he's a guy who bottles up EVERYTHING, all it need was a little thing to make him explode. People are like this all the time, they bottle things up for years and years and then, a little thing makes them go bats**t crazy.

Hulking out here seemed more like a constipated Bruce forcing himself to sh**. The other things are just

The gamma dogs bit is all your opinion, so thats fine with me, i thought it was awesome. I wish we got the full scene Ang wanted but what we got was just great anyway.

You like it, that's good

Bruce hulking out in that water tank wasnt like he just thought he should do it for fun, he just found out that his mother died trying to protect him, she died because of him and he just stood there watching it all, did nothing to help her. Thats alot of anger and gilt there, by now, he's already hulk'd out and Hulk doesnt need all that much to get out anymore. Plus, they were drilling into his back, that s**t alone would piss off person enough to get him to hulk out.

All of these were just

Bruces' mom dieing was in thier garden, not the bomb range, radiation didnt get that far because they locked down the facility. David just wanted a distraction to get to his son.

Never mind

Think of the type of person David is, he's a real man's man, a real in your face type of guy and his son is not, he created Hulk. So you get the meaning of what he's saying, Hulk is his real son, that was he think and says because he wants Bruce to get jealous and angry at him.

It was one of those scenes

Bruce getting nuked in the end was like a knockout blow to Hulk, Hulk was giving his all to beat his father, he did but before he could do anything else, the militery sucker punched him. THe scene in South America was months and months later, by that time, i'm sure Hulk got his energy back.

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Overall, it is a good movie despite all its faults, still worth watching
Hulk = 7.1/10
TIH = 9.8/10

 

[Gabe99]

IGN HULKS OUT with the Incredible One himself! The Avengers Interviews: Mark Ruffalo


From MTV:
Mark Ruffalo Contemplates Hulk's Big-Screen Future

Mark Ruffalo is getting big, mean and green for "The Avengers" next month, giving us our third big-screen version of the incredible Hulk in 10 years. Hopefully, he'll be the one that sticks. By all accounts, Ruffalo's take on Hulk looks to be among the best of the bunch, and his colleagues have certainly poured out a lot of love on his behalf. I'm as excited as anyone to see him in the Marvel blockbuster, and I'm already starting to wonder whether or not we'll get the man back for his very own "Hulk" movie. Turns out, Ruffalo's been thinking about the same thing.

"Why not! It was the one character -- you know, I was a comic book fan when I was a kid and I always loved the Hulk. When The Incredible Hulk, that show, came on, I would not miss that. And so if I was going to find myself in that world, this would be the guy that I would be most interested in doing. To make a very short answer long: Yeah, I'd love to have him do his own movie."

Get a lot more of Ruffalo's thoughts on Hulk over at IGN Movies.

 

[MarvelKnight]

I saw no mention of a HULK "Reboot" in that interview. I did say a third go round, but I take that to mean a third movie [or a sequel to TIH].

Yeah, plus with the new design of the Hulk and a new actor, make the new movie take place relatively soon after the avengers, it would probably feel like a reboot anyway without forgetting about continuity.