Star Trek II: Wrath of Khan

[Catman]

Awesome movie! Although I think the beginning is a bit dumb. The first movie ended with Kirk running the Enterprise. Now he's back to be Admiral and complaining about not being in charge. Did we REALLY have to go through that AGAIN?! Then Chekov was kinda dumb when bumped into Khan. He knew Khan was there and then when he shows up he's surprised. Dude, who the heck did you expect? Other than that...awesome movie.

 

[BlackLantern]

Chekov didn't know he was there until he saw the name on the buckle.....there was another planet in that system that was destroyed that nobody knew about...that's why Chekov was surprised

 

[Catman]

Chekov didn't know he was there until he saw the name on the buckle.....there was another planet in that system that was destroyed that nobody knew about...that's why Chekov was surprised

That's not what I said. Chekov saw the buckle, told the captain to leave quickly and then when Khan does show up he has a shocked look on his face and says with a surprising tone, "Khan?" Who was he expecting it to be?

 

[BlackLantern]

That's not what I said. Chekov saw the buckle, told the captain to leave quickly and then when Khan does show up he has a shocked look on his face and says with a surprising tone, "Khan?" Who was he expecting it to be?

It had been a long time....maybe he didn't expect Khan to still be alive or something

 

[Catman]

It had been a long time....maybe he didn't expect Khan to still be alive or something

Yet he felt the need to run away. I'm sure Kahn told his people about Chekov the Evil.

 

[C. Lee]

Awesome movie! Although I think the beginning is a bit dumb. The first movie ended with Kirk running the Enterprise. Now he's back to be Admiral and complaining about not being in charge. Did we REALLY have to go through that AGAIN?! Then Chekov was kinda dumb when bumped into Khan. He knew Khan was there and then when he shows up he's surprised. Dude, who the heck did you expect? Other than that...awesome movie.

For those who haven't seen the movie, I'll put in spoilers...

Spoiler

The beginning was actually a great gotcha moment. Rumors had been spreading that Spock died in the movie.....so they had that start with everyone getting killed.....then people were surprised when he actually dies at the end.

 

[C. Lee]

Yet he felt the need to run away. I'm sure Kahn told his people about Chekov the Evil.

Considering that Chekov wasn't in the season that Khan showed up....they really shouldn't have known each other.

 

[Rac]

I've seen WoK twice and both times I found it to be 3/5 film. I'm no trekkie, so maybe that's why.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I liked StarTrek 2 but I don't think that I loved it as much as other people do.

 

[NotFadeAway]

I always thought Voyager should have, in a way, used Wrath of Khan as a blueprint for that show. An older, bored, restless Admiral taking Starfleet cadets on a training cruise when a message comes in from Starfleet command about the disappearence of a Maquis ship in the badlands, which would ironically be near the training mission course. With Voyager as the closest ship, they go to investigate and are swept into the Delta Quadrant along with the Maquis. And as it would turn out, the Admiral's much younger brother would be the commander of the Maquis crew. Things play out in similiar fashion from there, with the Maquis joining the Voyager crew, a crew of cadets mind you.

I think it would have been interesting to watch the interaction between a group of cadets, basically space children caught up in what it means to be a Starfleet officer, reading the prime directives ever night before bed in figurative fashion, and then the battle hardened Maquis, at first nothing but traitors in the eyes of our young cadets. And then the possible interplay between a respected, proud older brother who happens to be an Admiral and his younger, brash, in your face, ass kicking, traitor brother. Both men united in that they want to get there crew home.

And I would have had a romulan in the show. A undercover Tal Shiar agent that poised as a Vulcan member of the Maquis crew. No Tuvok.

And the main villians of the show would have been the ancestors of a large group of World War 3 baddies who fled punishment in non-warp capable sleeper ships, fell through an unstable wormhole and into the Delta Quadrant. Rescued by a technologically advanced and kind race(idk), they conquer that world and other worlds, building a true "Terran Empire".

Anyway......

 

[BlackLantern]

I always thought Voyager should have, in a way, used Wrath of Khan as a blueprint for that show. An older, bored, restless Admiral taking Starfleet cadets on a training cruise when a message comes in from Starfleet command about the disappearence of a Maquis ship in the badlands, which would ironically be near the training mission course. With Voyager as the closest ship, they go to investigate and are swept into the Delta Quadrant along with the Maquis. And as it would turn out, the Admiral's much younger brother would be the commander of the Maquis crew. Things play out in similiar fashion from there, with the Maquis joining the Voyager crew, a crew of cadets mind you.

I think it would have been interesting to watch the interaction between a group of cadets, basically space children caught up in what it means to be a Starfleet officer, reading the prime directives ever night before bed in figurative fashion, and then the battle hardened Maquis, at first nothing but traitors in the eyes of our young cadets. And then the possible interplay between a respected, proud older brother who happens to be an Admiral and his younger, brash, in your face, ass kicking, traitor brother. Both men united in that they want to get there crew home.

And I would have had a romulan in the show. A undercover Tal Shiar agent that poised as a Vulcan member of the Maquis crew. No Tuvok.

And the main villians of the show would have been the ancestors of a large group of World War 3 baddies who fled punishment in non-warp capable sleeper ships, fell through an unstable wormhole and into the Delta Quadrant. Rescued by a technologically advanced and kind race(idk), they conquer that world and other worlds, building a true "Terran Empire".

Anyway......

I didn't understand any of that....

 

[Doctor Jones]

Excellent film. I'm glad I watched it before I saw this one.

I wish there were more set pieces but I know because of the budget. But the ending gives me chills.

 

[Doomed_hero]

i like Kahn, however first Contact is my fav Trek film. Always more of a next Gen fan however #4 is funny as hell.

 

[CFE]

“Ah, Kirk, my old friend, do you know the Klingon proverb that tells us revenge is a dish that is best served cold? It is very cold…in space.”

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The only thing that would've upped 'Wrath' even more? A Kirk/Khan fist fight!

 

[Sawyer]

The scene with Chekov, the black guy, Khan and the ear-worms gives me the willies...

 

[NotFadeAway]

I didn't understand any of that....

Fanboy rant

 

[co2]

i like Kahn, however first Contact is my fav Trek film. Always more of a next Gen fan however #4 is funny as hell.

Those are the only two Trek movies I own. I watched First Contact recently, and am in the process of watching Khan this week in preparation. Personally, I would have to give a good lead to Khan, but those are definitely the two Trek movies that stand superior to all of the others.....that is, until this weekend.

 

[Drizzle]

This is, to date, the only "Star Trek" movie I've seen (until Friday, at least). Actually, it's the only "Star Trek" anything I've seen. I thoroughly enjoyed it, but mostly because of Montalban as Khan. What a kick-ass villain.

 

[Catman]

I've seen WoK twice and both times I found it to be 3/5 film. I'm no trekkie, so maybe that's why.

I liked StarTrek 2 but I don't think that I loved it as much as other people do.

It is slightly overrated. Voyage Home is my Star Trek movie of choice.

The only thing that would've upped 'Wrath' even more? A Kirk/Khan fist fight!

Yea. They dropped the ball on that one. Instead we got Kirk fighting Christopher Lloyd in the next one.

 

[EdRyder]

As I recall there was a draft at some point in production where Kirk fought Kahn in the Genesis cave and Kahn escaped with the device.And as the script went through rewrites and tweaks it got sliced out.

 

[Catman]

As I recall there was a draft at some point in production where Kirk fought Kahn in the Genesis cave and Kahn escaped with the device.And as the script went through rewrites and tweaks it got sliced out.

 

[Doctor Jones]

I actually prefer the idea of the two never meeting face to face.

The fact these two men hate eachother and want to kill eachother but can't and are resticted to a screen for connection is more effective.