Guardians of the Galaxy Starlord's Pops

[fixxxer]

So it's settled then? Quill is Thanos' nephew?

 

[Lobo]

Just wanted to post this as I felt Starhawk needed a better pic in this thread lol

 

[Super Jim]

Here's another point to support Starfox as Starlord's pops...

Peter's mom says to him something to the point of 'You look just like your father'.

So, let's examine that for a moment...

Here is a pic of Starlord:



I want to focus on one main thing, his hair...

What color would you say Peter Quill's hair is in the movie?

Is it brown? Actually, I'd have to say that it was more of a reddish, and it was something that I noticed while watching.

In the comics Peter Quill's hair is blonde. Chris Pratt's hair color is noted as brown.

This means they went out of their way to have his hair reddish in the movie...

And simply, out of all of the characters we've discussed as possibilities to be his pops, which has red hair?

 

[cph9fa]

^ Super Jim, nice catch with the hair color!

Well, Drax has a complicated origin in the comics that they somewhat did away with for the movie. So I could see them simplifying the backgrounds of other characters for the sake of making them fit as Peter's father. It's why I'm leaning on Gunn's personal preferences as the best clues for who the mysterious father might be.

The thing is, I'm not sure just how relevant Gunn's favorite character is to the question of Star Lord's parentage. To take a not-entirely-dissimilar situation: Whedon seems to really like the characters of Captain America and Janet, but that doesn't mean he'll write them as the parents of Pietro and Wanda... hmmm...

 

[Lobo]

Here's my rankings of most likely IMO

1-An Inhuman
2-Starhawk
3-Adam Warlock (Though I don't like that idea)
4-Starfox

 

[Curmudgeon]

^ Super Jim, nice catch with the hair color!


The thing is, I'm not sure just how relevant Gunn's favorite character is to the question of Star Lord's parentage. To take a not-entirely-dissimilar situation: Whedon seems to really like the characters of Captain America and Janet, but that doesn't mean he'll write them as the parents of Pietro and Wanda... hmmm...

I would say it's incredibly relevant since he's writing the script.

I haven't been looking at AoU spoilers so I have to ask: Is Pietro and Wanda's parentage being presented as a plot point? If not, then it's not a similar situation.

Also, I would not have guessed Whedon really likes Cap based on the way the character was presented in Avengers.

 

[747]

After my second viewing I'm even more convinced that it's Starhawk.

Though I hate myself for not remembering the quote, Peter's mom says something in the beginning about his dad in regards to light.

There is also a part at the end where Yondu states he thinks Quill's father is a d-bag. Starhawk is considered a bit of a d-bag by his fellow Guardias in the comics, which includes Yondu.

 

[Batmannerism]

Whoever they decide Quill's dad will be, it's gotta be played by Kevin Bacon !

 

[pr0xyt0xin]

I agree there are any number of routes they could take with this.

For me, it wouldnt matter to me if they did something as out there as "J'Son Eros the Inhuman, codename Starfox. Allied with Black Bolt, Medusa and Gorgon. Enemy of Thanos. Sorcerer of Pelvis."

 

[Curmudgeon]

Having Kevin Bacon be the dad would be hilarious. They definitely need to at least get him a cameo in the next one.

 

[Super Jim]

I love the idea of Kevin Bacon playing Starfox, Star Lord's daddy!!!!!

 

[Super Jim]

After my second viewing I'm even more convinced that it's Starhawk.

Though I hate myself for not remembering the quote, Peter's mom says something in the beginning about his dad in regards to light.

There is also a part at the end where Yondu states he thinks Quill's father is a d-bag. Starhawk is considered a bit of a d-bag by his fellow Guardias in the comics, which includes Yondu.

She made 2 statements about Peter's father. The first, that Peter looks just like him. The second, that he was made of pure light and that he was her angel.

Later we have the NOVA Corps indicating that Peter's father was an unknown, ancient species.

And then Yondu makes two statements of interest, including the one you indicated about Peter's father being a d-bag. The other was how he stated "I may look like an angel on the outside, but I sure as 'heck' ain't one".

Oh, and then there was also the pointed response by Gamora regarding Peter's "pelvic sorcery"...

So to just focus solely on the pure light and angel statement by Peter's mom in order to get to the conclusion of Starhawk is a little near sighted.

First, if you want to go by the angel statement, then Yondu would be the easiest fit, based on what he said. Sure, he doesn't fit the bill for the pure light statement, but they could pull off any storyline scenerio to make that fit. Of course for Yondu there are other issues, such as the whole ancient species thing.

But, there are many other options, which I've explored, that matches some, mutliple, if not all of these pieces of evidence.

For example, let's look at the "pure light" statement and who else that might fit and why...

- Starfox (who happens to be Thanos' brother) has a body that's enhanced by cosmic energy.

- Blackboilt has an organic mechanism in his brain's speech center that produces an unknown particle that interacts with ambient electrons, enabling him to produce certain mentally-controlled phenomena. Black Bolt can create a nearly impenetrable force field by focusing his energy around himself

- Quasar uses a pair of Quantum Bands which gives him tremendous powers of energy manipulation. He can also project quantum energy.

- Nova gets his powers from an energy source called the Nova Force. He can absorb energy directed at him and redirect it as gravimetric pulses and beams.

- Adam Warlock has the ability to manipulate cosmic energy and the latest version uses Quantum Magic and can manipulate energy.

- Captain Mar-Vell had, at least one of his incarnations, the ability to absorb solar energy and would leave a sparkling trail in his wake.

- And of course there are other possibilities, including Starhawk.

Next, let's focus on the angel statement. Most would assume that an angel needs to be able to fly. So who flys that could possibly be Star Lord's daddy?

- Starfox flys

- Blackbolt can cencentrate his electrons into anti-electrons in order to fly

- Quasar flys

- Nova flys

- Adam Warlock flys

- Captain Mar-Vell flys (and leaves that sparkling energy trail)

- And of course there are other possibilities, including Starhawk.

So next, let's look at one of the most important pieces of evidence, the indication from the NOVA Corps that his father is an "unknown, ancient species". Now, maybe they could explain it away by saying it was his powers that is unknown and ancient, but really, that statement sure seems to mean that his father is an ancient race. So which of the possibilities are an ancient race?

- Starfox is one of the Eternals of Titan, and as that name implies, have been around for a very, vey long time. They are an offshoot of the evilutionary process that created sentient life on Earth (which was started by the Celestials). They live for Mellenia!

- Blackbolt is the ruler of the Inhumans, an ancient race from Earth who received various powers using something called the Terrigen Mists (something that could be an interesting story plot item - similar to the cube and the Aether). I'm using Blackbolt because he's the leader, but any Inhuman could possibly work.

- I do not believe the other possibilities listed meet this unknown, ancient species requirement...

Now, as far as that "pelvic sorcery" statement, I feel it has meaning. Sure, it could be simply Gamora's way of saying 'you're a known flirt', but it seems more meaningful and possibly something that a child raised by Thanos would know. So, who would relate to "pelvic sorcery"?

- Starfox is really the only one in that part of his powers has to do with psionic pleasure stimulation, something that directly relates to "pelvic sorcery". I can't think of anyone else that matches this one...

The the statement from Yondu about him being a d-bag. Well, IMO, a character like Yondu is likely to think that all of these characters are d-bags. I don't think he would like Starfox, Quasar, Captain Mar-Vell, Nova, Blackbolt or Adam Warlock. But another clue is that whichever character it ends up being must be one that would not want to, or have the ability to just drop what he's doing to go get his son. A character like the Beyonder wouldn't need Yondu to do that for him, but any of these others might, especially Adam Warlock if he was about to go into some regeneration cocoon, or Starfox who is too busy going around seducing women to be bothered.

Other than all of this, look at what story plots they could develop around the various possibilities...

- Starfox gives them the other side to Thanos' coin. It could give the Guardians a good mission when the Avengers (and maybe everyone else) go up against Thanos. Making Star Lord the Nephew to Thanos would be interesting.

- Blackbolt (or another Inhuman) lets us meet the Inhumans and gives us access to Chrystal, who was once an Avenger. Also, the Inhumans' culture strictly prohibited miscegenation, or racial combining, between Inhumans and other races, and that plot device could be used.

- Quasar gives them Quasar and what, Quantum Bands? Ok...

- Nova gives them more story tied to the NOVA Corps and could lead to the New Warriors.

- Adam Warlock can easily be involved in the Infinity Stones and could lead to the Infinity Watch.

- Captain Mar-Vell could lead to Carol Danvers, Ms. Marvel, an Avenger and someone many would like to see eventually.

- And Starhawk gives us what?...

Lastly, think about the comment that his mother made about how Peter looks just like his father. If you look at it like I have there is only one that matches well enough, especially based on the hair color they gave Star Lord:

So all I can say, based on all of the evidence, is Kevin Bacon for Starfox please!!!!!

 

[Lobo]

Seeing as the Nova Corps know of Thanos the mad titan, and Starfox is his brother, i doubt his dna would be unknown to them, but I very much enjoyed reading that post

 

[Super Jim]

^ Yes, that part of the universe, including the NOVA Corps, knows about Thanos, but do they actually have DNA scans?

I'm guessing not...

From what we've been shown so far Thanos operates through his underlings. He's been having others search for the stones, not himself. In fact, we haven't seen him leave his throne yet...

 

[marcvader]

Starlord's dad per Super Jim, "Anyone but Starhawk.". We get it already.

 

[Super Jim]

^ No, that's not it. Starhawk's a cool character, but I just feel there are more important characters that make more sense to Guardians and can lead to other stories.

Also, I've analyzed the evidence and came to the conclusions that I've presented.

IMO, Starfox matches the best, with Captain Mar-Vell second and so on. Even Star Hawk is in my top 10, but just barely...


Plus Kevin Bacon as Starfox, Peter's dad, would be funny as heck!

 

[cph9fa]

Even though I'm on team Starfox, I wouldn't consider the pelvic sorcery line to be a reference to Starlord's father. I think it just meant that she felt the urge to sway her hips to the beat of the music. In context, the only "magic" was the rock music. But I suppose it could be a funny easter egg if it turns out to be true.

Two additional points to consider:

- Gunn said he had to work out the details of how Starlord's dad tied in to Yondu. On the pro-Starfox side, this would certainly be something that needed to addressed. On the pro-Starhawk side, this would probably be less of an issue, since he was on the same team as Yondu. Granted that team (the future-Guardians) doesn't seem to exist in the MCU.

- Gunn said that Thanos wasn't planned as the villain of GotG2. Which, granted, seems like an unexpected thing to say if Thanos turns out to be his uncle (since it makes the familial tie seem less relevant). But the way it was stated was carefully worded: if it makes sense for him to be in the film, he will be. Starlord could certainly have plenty of other adventures without needing to involve Thanos, even if he is his uncle.

 

[Super Jim]

^ I expect Thanos to be the big bad build-up in Avengers 3. At the same time, whose to say that the Avengers 3 movie wouldn't include cross-overs from other characters like the Guardians of the Galaxy?

I could easily see a movie where Nova, Adam Warlock, the Avengers, the Guardians, etc.; all need to come together to take down the big bad guy.

I could see each team given their own mission. For example, maybe the Guardians would need to find Starfox and convince him to fight his brother.

You get the idea...

 

[Super Jim]

Although I still very much believe that it will be Starfox, the one thing that has me thinking differently is the Angel and pure light comment.

Of all of the characters, the one that really looks like an angel and most like pure light, IMO, would be:



The sparkling trail when he flys really makes him fit those comments...

 

[Norrin Parker]

I do not like the idea of Kevin Bacon even appearing in the MCU just because he was referenced in the film. Honestly I chuckled at the Footloose joke but my thaeter seemed to love it. I'm all for Eros or Starhawk being the father though!

 

[Lilbaz]

Wouldn't he have some powers though, if his father was a super powered being?

 

[SuperSanchez]

If you guys want Kevin Bacon cast as Starfox it would be kinda funny if Star Lord said to him "wow, you look like someone i know, do you know footloose?" or something funny like that

 

[SuperSanchez]

Doesnt Peter's mom say somehting about "Jason" in the movie?

 

[cph9fa]

Doesnt Peter's mom say somehting about "Jason" in the movie?

"Jason"? No. She tells Peter that he looks like his father, and that he was an angel, composed of pure light.

 

[Super Jim]

Wouldn't he have some powers though, if his father was a super powered being?

Guess it depends on what you mean by powers.

If you mean that Peter would automatically be able to fly because Eros can fly, then I'd say no, it doesn't necessarily work that way.

It is possible that Peter does have somepowers, but just doesn't know it. Maybe they are non-active or static. For example, Eros can psionically cause pleasure stimulation, so what if Peter does this to a lesser degree without even knowing it? Some might say that that would almost be like "pelvic sorcery"...

Another option is the whole Terrigan Mist thing. This is mainly involved with Inhumans, but the writers can change things a bit. Anyway, they could make it where Peter's father's powers are from exposure to the Terrigan Mists and not genetic.

Another possibility is what happens when Inhumans and Humans mate, per canon:

When Crystal and Quicksilver married they had one child, Luna. Luna had no powers, even though both her mother and father did. The explanation was that the genetic markers denoting these subgroups in humanity supposedly "cancelled out" in her, leaving her a normal human.

They could easily apply this concept to Peter in the movies...