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World State your unpopular Spider-Man related opinion

-Andrew Garfield is a terrible Spidey/Peter
-Organic Web Shooters>>>>mechanical web shooters
-Spider-Man The New Animated Series is the best Spidey show ever!(watch it you haven't)
-New Goblin is the most badass villain on any Spiderman film(not the best but the most badass)
-Kirsten Dunts was great as MJ
 
A few from me:

- Spider-Man 3 is underrated.
- Tobey Maguire is the best Peter Parker/Spider-Man.
- The Amazing Spider-Man 2 is second only to Spider-Man 2.
- Hans Zimmer has the most consistent Spider-Man score/album.
- I love the SM3 street strut.
- Kirsten Dunst was a good MJ.

Deal with it! :oldrazz:
 
A few from me:

- Spider-Man 3 is underrated.
- Tobey Maguire is the best Peter Parker/Spider-Man.
- The Amazing Spider-Man 2 is second only to Spider-Man 2.
- Hans Zimmer has the most consistent Spider-Man score/album.
- I love the SM3 street strut.
- Kirsten Dunst was a good MJ.

Deal with it! :oldrazz:
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lol. Was this a dig at me, Miles?

Not at all. I love that show, man! :grin:

Okay, so some more unpopular opinions:

- TASM2 is better than SM3.
- TASM1 is better than SM1, SM3, and TASM2.
- Dane's Harry, while not as close to the source material, is so much better than Franco's Harry.
- Making Harry kill Gwen is so much more powerful than Norman killing Gwen,
because it has that added layer of Peter and Harry's friendship... his best friend killed his love, and that's gotta hurt.
- SM3 isn't awful.
 
Ultimate Jameson (comic book version) is better than 616 Jameson.
My favorite story from the Lee era is the Rhino debut/John Jameson Space Spores/Mary Jane debut arc.
Jim Mooney is the best Spider-Man artist after John Romita sr.
Spider-Man 3 is a good Spidey experience, and an overall decent game.
Mysterio (Qunetin Beck) is one of the greatest Spider-Man foes.
A few from me:

- Spider-Man 3 is underrated.
- Tobey Maguire is the best Peter Parker/Spider-Man.
- The Amazing Spider-Man 2 is second only to Spider-Man 2.
- Hans Zimmer has the most consistent Spider-Man score/album.
- I love the SM3 street strut.
- Kirsten Dunst was a good MJ.


Deal with it! :oldrazz:
I like the bold ones.
 
I understand that for a lot of folks, MJ was really the only girl that Peter had of importance. They had been married for 20 years by the time OMD had happened. For many Spidey fans this amounts to most if not all their fandom. Which is why my opinion is admittedly unpopular.
However, to address the above points:
• Gwen was prone to cry and lament over Peter. But this wasn't solely her trait. ALL of Marvel's heroines, including super-types like Sue, Sif and Dorma engaged in tearful monologues. MJ also broke into tears and whined (such as when she revealed knowing Peter's secret). But if she did it less than Gwen it was only because by the 80's presenting women as weepy was no longer in fashion. MJ also benefitted from being given showcases that would never happen in the period Gwen was around. There would never have been a comic like ASM #259 back in the 60's or early 70's.
• MJ was not more popular than Gwen. I have all the comics from that era. It isn't as if Marvel was getting letters demanding that Gwen be replaced by MJ. It isn't as if sales increased after MJ was put in the lead spot.
•Gwen wasn't "stuck-up" during the Ditko run. Otherwise she'd have shown no interest in Peter at all. She was egotistical (as was MJ) and showed her ire at what she saw as Peter being stuck-up. She was certainly portrayed as having spunk in tough situations throughout her run. She stood strong during every threat. Gwen's characterization under Stan was consistent in pretty much every aspect. XspidercideX brings up the point of MJ knocking out Chameleon, as though Gwen couldn't have also swung a bat. Again, such action was more consistent with Gwen's character as she was taking pokes at people from day one, and being a cop's daughter would have been reasonably skilled in self-defense.
MJ however was inconsistent in that respect, as her first showcase story (ASM #127) presented her as being somewhat cowardly.
•Which brings me to sl500jazz' point. Gwen was only written during her time in continuity by a few writers. It was really only Gerry Conway that had issues with her, and that was because he simply didn't like the character. At the time he was only 19, so, unlike the middle-aged, married Lee, Conway wasn't equipped to handle writing a relationship that was leading to marriage. Also to his teenage eyes the overtly flirtatious and flighty MJ would seem more exciting. Note that he left the book when Peter and MJ actually got together.
As far as writers not knowing what to do with a character, this was never more true than with MJ, who they were constantly trying to jettison. This was the sole purpose if Clone Saga 2. When she came back, they killed her. Then separated her and Peter. Then they ended the marriage altogether. I don't follow the comics anymore, but are they even together now? The writers were constantly complaining about having to work with her because once brought out of the background post Gwen's death there's but so much you can do with her.
•My point has always been this: Good writing should always come from character. Marvel hasn't worked that way for decades. Everything is based on contrived events. And this is my issue with MJ. She's kitchen sink writing. They'll thrown in any and everything to make her seem interesting. Including the many forced moments such as having known Peter's identity, knocking out the Chameleon and so forth. Nothing is a natural, organic flow from the character introduced in ASM#42. And even with that, Marvel still couldn't keep the Peter/MJ relationship interesting.
•For a superhero relationship to be interesting post the Will they/Won't they portion, the girlfriend needs to bring drama comparable to the hero's world-saving. MJ never brought that. Her career as an actress/model only made for superficial distraction at best.
Gwen however had from her natural development as character the components for a dramatic fit. Her father's career and death, her established toughness under fire, and her mysterious family origins [At the time of her death we knew nothing about what happened to her mother ], were ripe for a clever writer to exploit.

For example:
She survives ASM #121. After that event and her father's death, she decides to take on the mantle of police woman. This alone opens for years worth of stories. I could list a pile, but I'm saving them for my own fanfics.
She could have and realistically would have done what MJ was presented as doing, but Gwen had more potential edge. And this without giving her spider powers (groan, gives Marvel the finger). Gerry Conway and much of fandom simply didn't see it. To me it's rather obvious. But again, I guess this is why my opinion is unpopular.
 
I don't know if it's an unpopular opinion around here, but I think the very concept of Superior Spider-Man was deeply flawed and that the idea should never have been given editorial approval to proceed. The concept at its core was allowing a villain to demonstrate his complete superiority to the hero, first of all by murdering the hero, then by usurping his identity, and demonstrating that he is both a better super-hero and even civilian than the hero himself (to draw a contrast, the civilian identity was an aspect that Kraven's Last Hunt stayed away from, and Kraven was both suicidal and insane, so his 'superiority' in that arc was in his own mind only).

Worse, by making the concept the central core of the book for such a long period of time, it requires the readership to essentially root for the villain who has murdered the hero. To top it off, the concept and book were championed by a writer who is a self-proclaimed long-time fan of the villain and who demonstrates a questionable (at best) understanding of the hero's character.

The Superior Spider-Man concept, and everything that flowed from it, was little more than company-sanctioned fanfic, and I use that term in its most derogatory sense.
 
I don't know if it's an unpopular opinion around here, but I think the very concept of Superior Spider-Man was deeply flawed and that the idea should never have been given editorial approval to proceed. The concept at its core was allowing a villain to demonstrate his complete superiority to the hero, first of all by murdering the hero, then by usurping his identity, and demonstrating that he is both a better super-hero and even civilian than the hero himself (to draw a contrast, the civilian identity was an aspect that Kraven's Last Hunt stayed away from, and Kraven was both suicidal and insane, so his 'superiority' in that arc was in his own mind only).

Worse, by making the concept the central core of the book for such a long period of time, it requires the readership to essentially root for the villain who has murdered the hero. To top it off, the concept and book were championed by a writer who is a self-proclaimed long-time fan of the villain and who demonstrates a questionable (at best) understanding of the hero's character.

The Superior Spider-Man concept, and everything that flowed from it, was little more than company-sanctioned fanfic, and I use that term in its most derogatory sense.

bravo... well said... :applaud:bow:
 
A few from me:

- Spider-Man 3 is underrated.
- Tobey Maguire is the best Peter Parker/Spider-Man.
- The Amazing Spider-Man 2 is second only to Spider-Man 2.
- Hans Zimmer has the most consistent Spider-Man score/album.
- I love the SM3 street strut.
- Kirsten Dunst was a good MJ.

Deal with it! :oldrazz:

I don't mean to exaggerate or anything but you are a monster and what's wrong with the entire world.

:oldrazz:
 
I don't know if it's an unpopular opinion around here, but I think the very concept of Superior Spider-Man was deeply flawed and that the idea should never have been given editorial approval to proceed. The concept at its core was allowing a villain to demonstrate his complete superiority to the hero, first of all by murdering the hero, then by usurping his identity, and demonstrating that he is both a better super-hero and even civilian than the hero himself (to draw a contrast, the civilian identity was an aspect that Kraven's Last Hunt stayed away from, and Kraven was both suicidal and insane, so his 'superiority' in that arc was in his own mind only).

Worse, by making the concept the central core of the book for such a long period of time, it requires the readership to essentially root for the villain who has murdered the hero. To top it off, the concept and book were championed by a writer who is a self-proclaimed long-time fan of the villain and who demonstrates a questionable (at best) understanding of the hero's character.

The Superior Spider-Man concept, and everything that flowed from it, was little more than company-sanctioned fanfic, and I use that term in its most derogatory sense.

What if some part of the audience wound up being glad that the hero was dead?
 
Superior Spider-Man was, admittedly, Slott's self-inserted fantasy. Down to Peter-Ock beating Jester and Screwball to a pulp after they badmouthed him on the internet.
 
I can only say this about the movies but:

- Spider-Man 2 is overrated; the story is too dull and miserable (mainly because of Maguire's lack of charisma in this one) for Spider-Man and Doc Ock is not as great in the film as everyone makes him out to be.
- Raimi's first Spider-Man is the best Spidey film out there (as of yet).
- As AnneFan said, I don't think Kirsten Dunst was bad as MJ, it was just the writing and terrible chemistry with Tobey Maguire that puts you off the character (and their whole relationship in the trilogy)
- Related to the point above, I don't really see what Peter saw in MJ in the Raimi trilogy other than being the pretty girl next door.
- Raimi's supporting cast was better than Maguire and Dunst.
- I see a lot of fans express their love for Horner's score in TASM but I think Zimmer surpassed him with his score for TASM2 in every possible way (minus the dubstep).
- I liked the Rhino in TASM2; though he is a bit over-the-top, he's not really meant to be regarded as a serious villain and it was nice to have a 'smaller' villain that Spidey could have easily made fun of.

(Not film related)
- I don't think Spectacular Spider-Man (the cartoon series) is as good as everyone makes it out to be (Spider-Man TAS was so much more fleshed out) but the show has a lot of cool elements in.
- Spider-Man 2 the game seems overrated as well, especially the claims made on the web-swinging. That doesn't mean that I didn't enjoy the hell out of it though when I played it (about 9 years ago) and I understand that the free roam and web-swinging aspects of that game paved the way for future sandbox Spidey games that borrowed for SM2.
 
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Reading this thread... I guess my unpopular opinion is that I like both Gwen and Mary Jane. Gwen is perfect as Peter's first love and MJ is perfect as his great love.
 
A few from me:

- Spider-Man 3 is underrated.
- Tobey Maguire is the best Peter Parker/Spider-Man.
- I love the SM3 street strut.
- Kirsten Dunst was a good MJ.

Deal with it! :oldrazz:

Agreed on all of them.

I don't know if it's an unpopular opinion around here, but I think the very concept of Superior Spider-Man was deeply flawed and that the idea should never have been given editorial approval to proceed. The concept at its core was allowing a villain to demonstrate his complete superiority to the hero, first of all by murdering the hero, then by usurping his identity, and demonstrating that he is both a better super-hero and even civilian than the hero himself (to draw a contrast, the civilian identity was an aspect that Kraven's Last Hunt stayed away from, and Kraven was both suicidal and insane, so his 'superiority' in that arc was in his own mind only).

Worse, by making the concept the central core of the book for such a long period of time, it requires the readership to essentially root for the villain who has murdered the hero. To top it off, the concept and book were championed by a writer who is a self-proclaimed long-time fan of the villain and who demonstrates a questionable (at best) understanding of the hero's character.

The Superior Spider-Man concept, and everything that flowed from it, was little more than company-sanctioned fanfic, and I use that term in its most derogatory sense.

Disagreed. Superior Spider-Man was never asking you to root for the villain. It was showing the the journey of a villain who thought he could change his ways and be something he wasn't - a Superior Spider-Man. That is what the book showed. In the end Dr. Octopus was not better that's why he gave it back to Peter.

Nobody rooted for him when he killed criminals, or when he banished Peter from his mind. It was a great premise and really well written and executed.
 
May Reilly Parker ages backwards, from a frail old woman always in need of medicine, to someone independent enough to defeat Chameleon
 
In the end Dr. Octopus was not better that's why he gave it back to Peter.
Even that was part of the flaws. The villain wasn't even defeated by the hero at the end, wasn't even proven wrong. He just gets into a sticky situation, and thinks, Ah... screw this. I give up. I'll let the other guy clean up this mess.

I am admittedly no fan of Dan Slott. I think he is seriously overrated by TPTB at Marvel, is given far too much free reign to indulge some of his unwise ideas (recent, admittedly small example: killing off the Spider-Man and Amazing Friends characters just for shock value), and seems to get a few too many jollies by actively trolling the fanbase. I view Superior through that lens.

I also positively dread whatever twisted ideas he's got in store for Mayday in Spider-Verse.
 
The villain was defeated and proven wrong. You must not have read the book. He could not beat Goblin Nation so he gave it back to Peter, who he acknowledged as being the better Spider-Man.

You are criticizing it for things that are not true.
 
I like the action in TASM 2 more than Spider-Man 2.
The best comic book Spider-Man stories happened in the 60s and the 80s.
The Amazing Spider-Man 2 video game has some of the best mechanics for Spider-Man in a video game.
 
Making Harry kill Gwen is so much more powerful than Norman killing Gwen,
because it has that added layer of Peter and Harry's friendship... his best friend killed his love, and that's gotta hurt.

You know? I never thought of it that way before. I like it.
 
I have a lot and I mean a lot of unpopular opinions when it comes to the sm movies and I fell like a lot of the things that people say are just complete bs. I don't like to type a million words so I will try to explain my thoughts has quikley has I can. First we have yet to have a bad sm movie. Second asm2 is by far the second best sm movie yet behind only sm2. 3erd the only bad looking villain in a sm movie is goblin in asm2. 4th AG is night and day better then tobey even though I still like tobey. 5th asm2 is not any more cheesy then any of the other sm movies. In fact asm2 is far less cheesy then sm 1-3. Doctro Kafka is not cheesy at all in asm2. He is odd but not cheesy and the I am electro is just badasss. ASm2 has the second best fights out of the sm movies has both the power plant fight and the goblin fight are top 5 fights in any of the sm movies. Also asm2 has hands down the best soundtrack in a sm movie yet and one of the best sound tracks I have ever hear before. ASM2 has no problem at all with tone like people say that is just bs.

I do agree that harry and peter needed more screen time but with that said I did buy that they where old friends and I don't believe that they had no chemistry like a lot of people say. Harry develement was handled while when it comes to going bad. You can see he has a dark side to him at the begging of the movie and you can fell how despert he is for a lot of the movie and then being set up by oscrop is just the thing to push him over the headge. After asm1 and 2 it is safe to say that people are never going to be satifield with the way peter and sm act. We finaly get an sm that acts like sm and now he is annoying and not funny lol. I guess people want the quit sm again. People say peter is a jerk again not true and just bs. How is he a jerk? Because he stood up to a bully at school who was bulling a kid? I belive the biggest thing that hurts AG peter is just the lack of screen time with people outside of the villains and gwen. In sm 1-3 there where a lot more sinces with people like harry, JJ, may ect then there where in asm1 and 2.

ASM2 has a good story and is one of the most emotion CBM I have ever seen before and makes you care about the characters more then just about any CBM. I felt way more emotion in asm2 then I ever did with XMEN DOFP or Cap 2. Also when it comes to AG vs tobey I fell like a lot of people are hard on AG for things that he has no control over. For things that have nothing to do with how he is has an actor but more things that are with the script and not with how he plays the part. For example I have seen sever people bring up the fact in asm1 he had a skateboarded even though that has nothing to do with his acting at all and who saids some one who is akward cant ride a skateboard? I have heard people say he acts like a hipster. What in the heck is an hipster? I had never even heard the word before asm1 and 2 lol. ASM1 sound track is by far the worst sound track in a sm movie it just makes me :barf::barf:. Asm2 is better then asm1 in like ever way. Action, soundtrack, story, sm suit ever thing.

Asm1 lizard looks just fine. He looks 100% like the 60% so I don't know why people think the lizard looks bad. I guess people just want the more veshies looking lizard with the sharp teeth and such. AG is not quit neardy enough but tobey Is to neardy there for there peter are even but AG Is night and day better then sm. Is deleiver on jokes is a million times better then tobey. His body laungered is better. He has more big great performances sinces that stand out in asm2 then tobey had in sm 1-3 combind. Just about ever sm movie is unfairly ratied. Asm1 while far form great is still a good movie. SM1 while still good has not aged while both in CGI and over all entertainment compared to a lot of other CBM movies there for sm1 is rated a little to while now days. Sm2 has some how became underrated has it is still one the best CBM ever yet a lot of people now don't even have it in there top 5 and call in overrated witch is just crazy. SM3 while it didn't live up to the hype people do blow the movies problems out of puportaion and the movie is still kind of good. ASM2 most underatied movie ever and doesn't deserver like 80% of the creatisim.

I don't have a problem with how venom looked in sm3 I think a lot of people do but I do agree that he needed to be in the movie a lot more. I don't hate goblins look in sm3. Would I have liked some close to the comics or like sm 1 yes? But at least he still looked cool unlike the goblin in asm2 that just looked like a human with a bad rash lol. The only major problem with asm2 is lack of uncle ben. ASM2 last 1/3 of the movie is the best last 1/3 of any CBM ever! There are things I like about asm1 and 2 more then sm 1-3 and things I like about sm 1-3 better then asm1 and 2 and if we could combind the things that they do better then the another we would have a perfect sm movie! I have no problem with how goblin looked in sm1 at all. He looked cool and you could see his eyes at some points and his mounth to see some of the emotion and Defos performance not it out of the park has it is better then any CBM villain performance out side of dark knight. Finally the last thing I have no problem with the parents stuff in asm1 and 2 and thought it was balanced while in the movies and didn't take away form the rest of the movie and I like the parents stuff has I know a lot of people hated it.
 
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I have a lot and I mean a lot of unpopular opinions when it comes to the sm movies and I fell like a lot of the things that people say are just complete bs. I don't like to type a million words so I will try to explain my thoughts has quikley has I can. First we have yet to have a bad sm movie. Second asm2 is by far the second best sm movie yet behind only sm2. 3erd the only bad looking villain in a sm movie is goblin in asm2. 4th AG is night and day better then tobey even though I still like tobey. 5th asm2 is not any more cheesy then any of the other sm movies. In fact asm2 is far less cheesy then sm 1-3. Doctro Kafka is not cheesy at all in asm2. He is odd but not cheesy and the I am electro is just badasss. ASm2 has the second best fights out of the sm movies has both the power plant fight and the goblin fight are top 5 fights in any of the sm movies. Also asm2 has hands down the best soundtrack in a sm movie yet and one of the best sound tracks I have ever hear before. ASM2 has no problem at all with tone like people say that is just bs.

I do agree that harry and peter needed more screen time but with that said I did buy that they where old friends and I don't believe that they had no chemistry like a lot of people say. Harry develement was handled while when it comes to going bad. You can see he has a dark side to him at the begging of the movie and you can fell how despert he is for a lot of the movie and then being set up by oscrop is just the thing to push him over the headge. After asm1 and 2 it is safe to say that people are never going to be satifield with the way peter and sm act. We finaly get an sm that acts like sm and now he is annoying and not funny lol. I guess people want the quit sm again. People say peter is a jerk again not true and just bs. How is he a jerk? Because he stood up to a bully at school who was bulling a kid? I belive the biggest thing that hurts AG peter is just the lack of screen time with people outside of the villains and gwen. In sm 1-3 there where a lot more sinces with people like harry, JJ, may ect then there where in asm1 and 2.

ASM2 has a good story and is one of the most emotion CBM I have ever seen before and makes you care about the characters more then just about any CBM. I felt way more emotion in asm2 then I ever did with XMEN DOFP or Cap 2. Also when it comes to AG vs tobey I fell like a lot of people are hard on AG for things that he has no control over. For things that have nothing to do with how he is has an actor but more things that are with the script and not with how he plays the part. For example I have seen sever people bring up the fact in asm1 he had a skateboarded even though that has nothing to do with his acting at all and who saids some one who is akward cant ride a skateboard? I have heard people say he acts like a hipster. What in the heck is an hipster? I had never even heard the word before asm1 and 2 lol. ASM1 sound track is by far the worst sound track in a sm movie it just makes me :barf::barf:. Asm2 is better then asm1 in like ever way. Action, soundtrack, story, sm suit ever thing.

Asm1 lizard looks just fine. He looks 100% like the 60% so I don't know why people think the lizard looks bad. I guess people just want the more veshies looking lizard with the sharp teeth and such. AG is not quit neardy enough but tobey Is to neardy there for there peter are even but AG Is night and day better then sm. Is deleiver on jokes is a million times better then tobey. His body laungered is better. He has more big great performances sinces that stand out in asm2 then tobey had in sm 1-3 combind. Just about ever sm movie is unfairly ratied. Asm1 while far form great is still a good movie. SM1 while still good has not aged while both in CGI and over all entertainment compared to a lot of other CBM movies there for sm1 is rated a little to while now days. Sm2 has some how became underrated has it is still one the best CBM ever yet a lot of people now don't even have it in there top 5 and call in overrated witch is just crazy. SM3 while it didn't live up to the hype people do blow the movies problems out of puportaion and the movie is still kind of good. ASM2 most underatied movie ever and doesn't deserver like 80% of the creatisim.

I don't have a problem with how venom looked in sm3 I think a lot of people do but I do agree that he needed to be in the movie a lot more. I don't hate goblins look in sm3. Would I have liked some close to the comics or like sm 1 yes? But at least he still looked cool unlike the goblin in asm2 that just looked like a human with a bad rash lol. The only major problem with asm2 is lack of uncle ben. ASM2 last 1/3 of the movie is the best last 1/3 of any CBM ever! There are things I like about asm1 and 2 more then sm 1-3 and things I like about sm 1-3 better then asm1 and 2 and if we could combind the things that they do better then the another we would have a perfect sm movie! I have no problem with how goblin looked in sm1 at all. He looked cool and you could see his eyes at some points and his mounth to see some of the emotion and Defos performance not it out of the park has it is better then any CBM villain performance out side of dark knight. Finally the last thing I have no problem with the parents stuff in asm1 and 2 and thought it was balanced while in the movies and didn't take away form the rest of the movie and I like the parents stuff has I know a lot of people hated it.

you were saying? LOL... and I got a headache just getting thru the numerous misspellings... I gotta go get me some extra-strength Tylenol now... wow...
 
you were saying? LOL... and I got a headache just getting thru the numerous misspellings... I gotta go get me some extra-strength Tylenol now... wow...

lol I know that was a lot but I was trying to keep it short but I have a lot of things I don't agree with when it comes to the movies. Yes I know spelling I have heard that to many times. I just cant spell at all and spell check really only helps when worlds are close so yeah I don't need to hear that again. If some one wants to respond to my thoughts then go ahead but I don't need to hear about the spelling.
 
Wow, great post spiderman2! I agree with a lot of things. :D :applaud

People already know my feelings about The Amazing Spider-Man franchise and Andrew Garfield so some of my other unpopular opinions:

- Sam Riegel is my favorite Spidey voice actor. Hearing his voice in the two movie tie-in games was everything I wanted in a Spidey voice and I hope he gets more work in future Spidey projects.

- I'm not the biggest Doc Ock fan. He's cool and all, just not one of my favorites. :oldrazz:

- I like the Ultimate Spider-Man TV show. It could be a lot better, true. But Season 3 has been a big improvement so far and I don't want a new show just yet. We've already had so many and I'd like to see one go awhile without being cancelled.
 
Wow, great post spiderman2! I agree with a lot of things. :D :applaud

People already know my feelings about The Amazing Spider-Man franchise and Andrew Garfield so some of my other unpopular opinions:

- Sam Riegel is my favorite Spidey voice actor. Hearing his voice in the two movie tie-in games was everything I wanted in a Spidey voice and I hope he gets more work in future Spidey projects.

- I'm not the biggest Doc Ock fan. He's cool and all, just not one of my favorites. :oldrazz:

- I like the Ultimate Spider-Man TV show. It could be a lot better, true. But Season 3 has been a big improvement so far and I don't want a new show just yet. We've already had so many and I'd like to see one go awhile without being cancelled.

oh thinks buddy! Sam reigel is not my favorite voice actor my favorite is the guy form spectacular spider man and then the guy form the 90's carton but sam reigel is sold I think he sounds pretty similar to the guy form spectacular spider man. I think I have ock has like my 4th favorite villain. First venom, 2nd carnage, 3erd goblin and then dock ock at 4th. I know some people have said that some people will accept bad things just because it is spider man but I hate ultimate spider man even though it is spider man lol. To me it is the worst sm cartoon yet by far and I think the big problem is they almost never use sm villains. They use to me like crossover characters. I did hear that season 3 was a lot better has I stoped watching it after season 2 and I was mad has I thought the show had been caned up in till like a month ago when I heard they where going to do a 4th season.
 

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