SteveDeKnight

[Brainiac 8]

Aw, noone cared what my thoughts on the matter were.

 

[triplet]

Aw, noone cared what my thoughts on the matter were.

Sorry... I'll check back in after that nap.

 

[The Caped Knight]

I agree, I hope they bring in Lori, if just for a couple of episodes.

Excatly

Not totally true. We saw snippets of Superman come out of him in Arrival, Hidden, Solitude, Mercy, Fragile, and Vessel. Think of the way he talked to Lionel at the end of Mercy, if that wasn't Superman talking, I don't know who it was.

I didn't say we didn't see a little of the SUPERMAN presona. But it wasn't the overall focus on The season as was promised .

1) I agree with Avid, he doesn't quite know what his destiny is yet, only what others have told him. Pa Kent told him all the time in the early seasons that he can't let others tell him what his ultimate destiny is, Clark himself has to figure that out.

Agreed

2)We'll see him accepting this stuff as the shows last season wraps up. I think most of the reason for this is budget, they just don't have as much as is needed. DeKnight even said that if Clark learns how to fly, that we would only see him do it once or twice a year.

If you look at how he has progressed through the five seasons, he has grown quite a bit, in strength and personality. It's not to say he won't make mistakes, everyone, even his age does, but he has learned from them. They do need to add the mythology in more, and they did add alot in S5, but they have to space it to fit 22-24 episodes a season, especially if they want to keep it going another couple of seasons.

YES

 

[avidreader]

too much text to read too much text to read....i'll chime back in when you long winded types start speaking my language, i.e. grunts, and growls, and finger pointing.

something along the lines of : Chloe sucks!

Now that is a well thought out piece if intellectual discourse right there, if i do say so myself.

cheers.

I told you to lay off that Jack Daniels.

Yeah, I usually love avid's stuff but I think my eyes started to glaze over.

I'm sleepy, maybe I'll go take a nap and give it another go after I've rested.

*yawn*

*triplet waves at avid*

Avid waves back at Triplet. Have a nice nap.

Aw, noone cared what my thoughts on the matter were.

Aw, I did, but you agreed mostly with what I said and it was on the bottom of the previous page, so it was harder to quote.

Anakin-Clark - Whiny

• Clark not whiny, just questioning and unsure

Anakin -Clark - Love sick puppies

• Clark has a need to feel loved for him the person and feels that Lana Lang can offer that to him, therefore loves her.

Anakin-Clark - complains to damn much

• Clark curious and bullheaded.

He's no where near close to The Man in The Red cape & Blue tights : I Stand for TRUTH , JUSTICE, & THE AMERICAIN WAY !!! Lois I never lie {in the suit}

Martha preparing speech for Fundraising Event.

Clark how does this sound ..... ya da ya da ya da... for truth justice and the American Way.

Clark answers, sounds like words to live by.

He knows it.

Lois I never lie {in the suit}

You answered youself there.

Maybe for you, But I know I would use my powers for The better ment of Mankind .

Well I thought we were discussing how we would feel in having powers not what we would use them for. I dont see Clark using his powers for anything but good, except when he's on RedK.

huh?

I'm not quite sure what your huhing too.

Not that, But I would like to see The Mature Adult Clark Kent[from the comics, The animated series, L&C] not the BDA Teenger Clark Kent.

Well you see that man in those shows. This is Smallville and he's still learning all of that.

 

[The Caped Knight]

Well you see that man in those shows. This is Smallville and he's still learning all of that.

He's slow, Bruce Wayne is already traveling around the world . Finding The Means to fight Injustice .

 

[avidreader]

He's slow, Bruce Wayne is already traveling around the world . Finding The Means to fight Injustice .

I'm not going to compare him to Bruce Wayne because both characters have completely different backgrounds and are completely different people.

However, if Clark Kent at 19 was everything that you look for in the future Superman/Clark Kent then wouldnt he have become that Superman at the age of 20 or 21.

In L & C he was about 26, the movies he was about 30, I dont read the comics but the comic book novels that I've read he seems to be anywhere from 26 to 30. So those guys have about 6 to 10 years on Smallville's Clark Kent. People grow so much from the time that they finish high school to their mid 20's and I think that in this version of Clark Kent he's been acting and behaving perfectly in line with his age.

How many teenagers do you know have shown the level of maturity that Clark has with all that he has to deal with?

 

[Kaboom]

i was the most mature kid ever when i was a teen.

spitballs trip! oh, sorry, didn't know you were napping.

see, at 26, i'm still mature.

 

[The Caped Knight]

I'm not going to compare him to Bruce Wayne because both characters have completely different backgrounds and are completely different people.

However, if Clark Kent at 19 was everything that you look for in the future Superman/Clark Kent then wouldnt he have become that Superman at the age of 20 or 21.

In L & C he was about 26, the movies he was about 30, I dont read the comics but the comic book novels that I've read he seems to be anywhere from 26 to 30. So those guys have about 6 to 10 years on Smallville's Clark Kent. People grow so much from the time that they finish high school to their mid 20's and I think that in this version of Clark Kent he's been acting and behaving perfectly in line with his age.

How many teenagers do you know have shown the level of maturity that Clark has with all that he has to deal with?

I guess if you put it that way, your right .

 

[Brainiac 8]

I'm not going to compare him to Bruce Wayne because both characters have completely different backgrounds and are completely different people.

However, if Clark Kent at 19 was everything that you look for in the future Superman/Clark Kent then wouldnt he have become that Superman at the age of 20 or 21.

In L & C he was about 26, the movies he was about 30, I dont read the comics but the comic book novels that I've read he seems to be anywhere from 26 to 30. So those guys have about 6 to 10 years on Smallville's Clark Kent. People grow so much from the time that they finish high school to their mid 20's and I think that in this version of Clark Kent he's been acting and behaving perfectly in line with his age.

How many teenagers do you know have shown the level of maturity that Clark has with all that he has to deal with?

Bravo, great way of putting the trials of youth Avid.

 

[avidreader]

Phew! Great chatting with you guys.

 

[Kaboom]

speaking of trials of youth, in the shh community forum theres a thread entitled how not to steal a sidekick. pretty funny stuff.

 

[NHawk19]

However, if Clark Kent at 19 was everything that you look for in the future Superman/Clark Kent then wouldnt he have become that Superman at the age of 20 or 21.

Ok this is something I have to comment on. . . .

You're completely right avid he's 19. He should have some kind of plan or view, or be curious about something more than what he is. He should be moving on from the out burst against Lex and the pining for Lana. He should have something in mind he wants as a path beyond where he is now even if he's unsure of it.

He still views himself as a freak rather than someone who can and should help . . . (and by help I mean something beyond saving Lana/Lois/Martha/Chloe/Lex whomever.) He can and should operate in the shadows off to the side as he's not supes but he should want to get involved, and he should be curious about why people act in a manner which is self destructive to their own kind.

Its the exploration of that curiosity that should make him feel compelled to put on the suit and help publicly. Thus far all SV has done is have clark yell at Lex. . . and fight what were arguably morons until Brainiac showed up. Quite frankly I'd like to see the show move beyond what seems at times like an endless "oohh Clark Smash" "Where Lana?" fest.

 

[The Caped Knight]

Ok this is something I have to comment on. . . .

You're completely right avid he's 19. He should have some kind of plan or view, or be curious about something more than what he is. He should be moving on from the out burst against Lex and the pining for Lana. He should have something in mind he wants as a path beyond where he is now even if he's unsure of it.

Excatly, Clark still hasn't a clue what he wants to do with his life . He's still acting like damn teenager

He still views himself as a freak rather than someone who can and should help . . . (and by help I mean something beyond saving Lana/Lois/Martha/Chloe/Lex whomever.) He can and should operate in the shadows off to the side as he's not supes but he should want to get involved, and he should be curious about why people act in a manner which is self destructive to their own kind.

Right again, He still hasn't moved passed the place in his life, he's an alien with God like powers . Who can help Mankind. he still see's himself as a Freak . He hasn't embraced his powers as a blessing .

Its the exploration of that curiosity that should make him feel compelled to put on the suit and help publicly. Thus far all SV has done is have clark yell at Lex. . . and fight what were arguably morons until Brainiac showed up. Quite frankly I'd like to see the show move beyond what seems at times like an endless "oohh Clark Smash" "Where Lana?" fest.

Ding DONG .... We Have a Winner All of your points are exactly true. 5 seasons have passed and he's still no where close to becoming The MAN OF STEEL. Every season it's always He's on The Verge to discovering & accepting his DESTINY. Never that he's decided on his own to make the choice to move forward towards his DESTINY . {He always has to be pushed either by Jor-EL or by a threat that places Earth in danger .}

 

[NHawk19]

5 seasons have passed and he's still no where close to becoming The MAN OF STEEL. Every season it's always He's on The Verge to discovering & accepting his DESTINY. Never that he's decided on his own to make the choice to move forward towards his DESTINY . {He always has to be pushed either by Jor-EL or by a threat that places Earth in danger .}

Hey i agree. . . .

Putting on the suit is not the first step in acceptance. Realizing he can and should help is.

The suit is fulfillment of the accepted destiny.

 

[triplet]

i was the most mature kid ever when i was a teen.

spitballs trip! oh, sorry, didn't know you were napping.

see, at 26, i'm still mature.

*spitballs kaboom*

*ahem*

I'm awake now...

 

[avidreader]

I dont know if I've got the energy to go through this again, but NHawk your basically saying alot of the things that Kal said, so you can check back on my answers to those.

As to the overall theme of what you're saying, I answer this Clark does do all those things, of course on a much smaller scale, however he hasnt quite come to grips with the fact yet that:

ONE PERSON CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE
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Will he realise that after his time in the Phantom Zone, maybe, possibly, hopefully? We shall wait and see.

He still views himself as a freak rather than someone who can and should help

I'll just answer this one... I dont think he views himself as a freak, I think he's long over that, but he doesnt grant himself much self worth either. He doesnt understand and appreciate the difference he can make.
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[avidreader]

Excatly, Clark still hasn't a clue what he wants to do with his life . He's still acting like damn teenager

He is a damn teenager.

 

[The Caped Knight]

Hey i agree. . . .

Putting on the suit is not the first step in acceptance. Realizing he can and should help is.

The suit is fulfillment of the accepted destiny.

Excatly .

Which is Why I really believe Season 6 should focus on Clark's Journey into adult hood both as The Reporter he's DESTINED to become & The World's GREATEST HERO , He's DESTINED to become. Instead of his love life. {5 Season's of exploring his love life as a teenager is enough. let move on to How The Flannel plaid Farmboy went from The Small town , To The Big City of METROPOLIS where he becomes a Damn good Reporter & THE MAN OF STEEL .}

 

[The Caped Knight]

He is a damn teenager.

He's an adult, he's passed the age of 18. He should start acting like a MATURE adult instead of a damn Teenager .

 

[NHawk19]

He is a damn teenager.

But he's acting like he's on the wrong end of the scale avid. He's acting 15 not 19, and there's a big difference.

This year he's a sophmore in college (I think did he drop out? not important) And similar to life last year he should have got the foundations in place for knowing what he wants or doesnt want. This year he should go through the awkward first steps of getting there.

As it stands he still doesnt have a clue what he wants from anyone or anything, and doesnt have the foundation in place to as you put it "appreciate the difference he can make".

 

[avidreader]

He's an adult, he's passed the age of 18. He should start acting like an adult instead of a damn Teenager .

So deferring his college education and running the farm at the age of 18 isnt an adult decision.

You point out all the things that he doesnt do, but you dont point out all the things that he does do.

 

[The Caped Knight]

But he's acting like he's on the wrong end of the scale avid. He's acting 15 not 19, and there's a big difference.

This year he's a sophmore in college (I think did he drop out? not important) And similar to life last year he should have got the foundations in place for knowing what he wants or doesnt want. This year he should go through the awkward first steps of getting there.

As it stands he still doesnt have a clue what he wants from anyone or anything.

EXCATLY, He acts like he's still 15 {season 1}

 

[Kaboom]

hes an alien.

maybe he matures more slowly then earth-males.

Edit*
im in kinda of a giddy mood today. maybe im just still excited that i survived the apocalypse

 

[The Caped Knight]

So deferring his college education and running the farm at the age of 18 isnt an adult decision.

You point out all the things that he doesnt do, but you dont point out all the things that he does do.

I'm saying it took The Death of his Father, for him to start waking up and realizing that he's got to start to get his priorities straight {and by that I mean not lana lang}

Up until his father's death his one focus has been Lana lang. He's put his Damn life on hold for this girl.

 

[The Caped Knight]

hes an alien.

maybe he matures more slowly then earth-males.

He's a BIG, DUMB, ALIEN,

must be.