Stop Complaining Please! Is Anybody Else Sick of It?!

[The Kid]

waaaaaaaaaaaaaghhhhhhhhhh

stop complaining!!1111

 

[PSINGRAPHD]

I think there are millions of people who didn't like the movie either and instead they d/l the video.

Then you need to STOP thinking! It must be quite painful for you anyway... ... and certainly for those around you. Seriously, MILLIONS of people? LOL! According to Entertainment Weekly and Box Office Mojo, just to name two, audience response to XTLS averaged a B+. I would argue that they are far more representative of the (obviously more objective) general movie going populace than say... oh, I don't know... YOU!!! Come to grips with reality Hulkless, the haters ARE the minority! Albeit a very vocal one, they are still... VERY small... in a variety of aspects I'm sure.

Oh, and BTW, that 60% drop quoted from Gambitflamer wasn't the big SURPRISE you and he-she make it out to be. A little disappointing perhaps, after a RECORD-BREAKING OPENING, but hardly shocking. Actually, it's performance falls within range of the typical summer movie blockbuster. I'll be back shortly with some stats to wrap your wee, little brain around. Now if XTLS had dropped 'round 70%, say like... oh, I don't know... HULK! Now THAT would've been a REAL surprise! To the industry, the press, and everybody else.

 

[Hulkster]

Then you need to STOP thinking! It must be quite painful for you anyway... ... and certainly for those around you. Seriously, MILLIONS of people? LOL! According to Entertainment Weekly and Box Office Mojo, just to name two, audience response to XTLS averaged a B+. I would argue that they are far more representative of the (obviously more objective) general movie going populace than say... oh, I don't know... YOU!!! Come to grips with reality Hulkless, the haters ARE the minority! Albeit a very vocal one, they are still... VERY small... in a variety of aspects I'm sure.

Oh, and BTW, that 60% drop quoted from Gambitflamer wasn't the big SURPRISE you and he-she make it out to be. A little disappointing perhaps, after a RECORD-BREAKING OPENING, but hardly shocking. Actually, it's performance falls within range of the typical summer movie blockbuster. I'll be back shortly with some stats to wrap your wee, little brain around. Now if XTLS had dropped 'round 70%, say like... oh, I don't know... HULK! Now THAT would've been a REAL surprise! To the industry, the press, and everybody else.

And who might you be PSINGRAPHD? Someone's lapdog? I bet one of the other posters here that I've argue with ask's for your help. Are your masters scared of the Hulkster? Be a man don't let someone control you, maybe by that time I'll take you seriously. And man you use too much smilies, I had to delete yours so I can post mine.

 

[Boba_Fett_123]

Okay, whatever, Hulkster. Be a pirate. I don't ****ing care anymore.

Ignore.

 

[PSINGRAPHD]

I stand corrected... and greatly humbled. It appears XTLS didn't drop just 60%, but a massve 66.9% on the second weekend. It's the ONLY big release of 2006 to place in BOM's largest drops(60%+) top 200+ chart. Here's some of the other notable entries on that list, with their placements and statistics:


# + title opening 2nd weekend + % gross
_________ _______ _______________ _____

#40-Hulk 62,128,420 18,847,620-69.9% 132,177,234
#72-XTLS 102,750,665 34,017,247-66.9% 234,250,044

#140- 93,687,367 34,910,393-62.7% 249,541,069
Harry Potter & the Prisoner of Azkaban

#205- 91,774,413 36,904,034-59.8% 281,576,461
Matrix Reloaded

Other summer 2006 blockbusters:

Superman 52,535,096 21,815,243-58.5% 195,476,617

Da Vinci 77,073,388 34,031,670-55.8% 217,536,138

POTC-DMC 135,634,554 62,345,264-54.0% 407,969,770


As you can see though, had XTLS only dropped 60% it would've been viewed as somewhat disappointing. However, a 66.9% is DEFINATELY cause for alarm I would say. Nevertheless, the final numbers are encouraging enough to warrant further exploration of the X-movieverse by Fox in some form or another. The X-Men's movie future is no where near as questionable as say... Superman's is. And XTLS was NOT the Batman and Robin, or even Matrix Revolutions, of the X-franchise as some would like the rest of us to believe... just mere wishful thinking.

 

[x-fan]

you know for all of those that are in here defending anything if you stop these complaint threads will go away, yeah the complainers might feel they won but it will be an opinion you can feel that you won and they can too

 

[LastSunrise1981]

I have never and will never download a movie or make a bootlegged dvd. I love movies and it is a big hobby of mine. So for me to tell you that what you did is wrong...I believe I am justified in doing so. But the real kicker is that some posters here pirated the movie and then came on here to complain. That is the most hypocritical thing I have seen on here. To critique something so harsh that you had nothing to do with...not even paying admission...is just stupid. Had they actually lost something(ticket price), then they would be justified in their anger and rightfully able to post their displeasures over and over again.

Bottom line, Fox doesn't deserve a single cent for what they did. But in all reality I highly DOUBT downloading a movie is making Rothman, Ratner, Penn, and Kinberg wonder how they'll pay their mortgage or their utility bill.

For every person that downloaded the movie or downloads a movie period, there are some who will go see the movie and the movie will still make a ****load of money.

So stop your bellyaching. It's not like the actors, the corporate suits, or the crew is suffering from a couple of downloads.

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Bottom line, Fox doesn't deserve a single cent for what they did. But in all reality I highly DOUBT downloading a movie is making Rothman, Ratner, Penn, and Kinberg wonder how they'll pay their mortgage or their utility bill.

For every person that downloaded the movie or downloads a movie period, there are some who will go see the movie and the movie will still make a ****load of money.

So stop your bellyaching. It's not like the actors, the corporate suits, or the crew is suffering from a couple of downloads.

And for every person who steals a car, there will be one who buys a car... that doesn't make stealing the car right.

And when a car is stolen, who suffers? Not the car company, no... but the person who spent their hard earned money on the car, and now they are assed out.

Just like with the movies. It won't be Rothman, Kinberg, and Penn who suffer. It will be people like myself, the retailers, who lose their jobs because their stores close down, because they aren't selling enough DVD's because everyone is bootlegging them instead of buying them.

And it HAS happened to me.

I have already lost a retail job working at a CD / DVD store due to bootlegging.

 

[chaseter]

Bottom line, Fox doesn't deserve a single cent for what they did. But in all reality I highly DOUBT downloading a movie is making Rothman, Ratner, Penn, and Kinberg wonder how they'll pay their mortgage or their utility bill.

For every person that downloaded the movie or downloads a movie period, there are some who will go see the movie and the movie will still make a ****load of money.

So stop your bellyaching. It's not like the actors, the corporate suits, or the crew is suffering from a couple of downloads.

That is your personal opinion that Fox doesn't deserve any money. It still does not make the crime justifiable.

Quit being hypocritical. For every person that goes to see the movie and pays to see it with their hard earned money, then there is a jack @ss internet no0b that would rather steal it. A 'couple' of downloads is really understating the problem. If a just a couple of people worldwide pirated movies, then it wouldn't be such the problem it is today.

And I agree with Nell, just because someone steals and another person buys one...doesn't even out the world and rainbows appear and everyone is happy again.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

That is your personal opinion that Fox doesn't deserve any money. It still does not make the crime justifiable.

Quit being hypocritical. For every person that goes to see the movie and pays to see it with their hard earned money, then there is a jack @ss internet no0b that would rather steal it. A 'couple' of downloads is really understating the problem. If a just a couple of people worldwide pirated movies, then it wouldn't be such the problem it is today.

And I agree with Nell, just because someone steals and another person buys one...doesn't even out the world and rainbows appear and everyone is happy again.

How am I being hypocritical? I'm just saying that Fox doesn't deserve a single cent and a few downloads didn't hurt its box office intake.

What you fail to realize is some people live overseas. From experience in living in Germany, some people don't want to wait an extra two or three months for a particular movie to be released. So they just find a way to download it or receive a bootleg copy of some kind.

Personally I would never do it due to the low quality of some downloads and how it can ruin a movie experience.

Another reason that people may download or buy bootlegs is because of high ticket prices. So in the end, it's not hurting Hollywood and Fox executives certainly aren't sitting around wondering how they'll pay their mortgages or utility bills.

 

[sonicphoto]

The fact is that I loved X-men 1 and 2 so much and yet they ruin me the fun completely with this 3rd movie and I barely read any x-men comics and I still think it feels wrong.

 

[chaseter]

How am I being hypocritical? I'm just saying that Fox doesn't deserve a single cent and a few downloads didn't hurt its box office intake.

What you fail to realize is some people live overseas. From experience in living in Germany, some people don't want to wait an extra two or three months for a particular movie to be released. So they just find a way to download it or receive a bootleg copy of some kind.

Personally I would never do it due to the low quality of some downloads and how it can ruin a movie experience.

Another reason that people may download or buy bootlegs is because of high ticket prices. So in the end, it's not hurting Hollywood and Fox executives certainly aren't sitting around wondering how they'll pay their mortgages or utility bills.

A lof of people don't have cars but that doesn't give them an excuse to steal one. A lot of people go to sleep hungry but that doesn't give them the right to rob a grocey store. A lot of people don't want to wait for their next paycheck...but that doesn't mean it is ok to steal money from a bank. Any way you word it or cut it...stealing is stealing and it is unjustifiable. And once again a 'few downloads' is a huge understatement. More than just a 'few' people pirate movies. Those 'few' downloads didn't help the movie so it hurt it...whether that be 500 bucks or 50,000 bucks. That studio is at a loss due to piracy period. Why do you keep trying to justify something you know is wrong?

 

[LastSunrise1981]

A lof of people don't have cars but that doesn't give them an excuse to steal one. A lot of people go to sleep hungry but that doesn't give them the right to rob a grocey store. A lot of people don't want to wait for their next paycheck...but that doesn't mean it is ok to steal money from a bank. Any way you word it or cut it...stealing is stealing and it is unjustifiable. And once again a 'few downloads' is a huge understatement. More than just a 'few' people pirate movies. Those 'few' downloads didn't help the movie so it hurt it...whether that be 500 bucks or 50,000 bucks. That studio is at a loss due to piracy period. Why do you keep trying to justify something you know is wrong?

I'm not justifying anything. How can you compare pirating a movie to stealing a car? It's apples and oranges. Stealing is stealing period, but I'm just saying that some people have their reasons for it.

But guess what? You can't do anything about it, I can't do anything about it. So *****ing and complaining about it won't change a thing.

 

[danoyse]

I'm not justifying anything. How can you compare pirating a movie to stealing a car? It's apples and oranges. Stealing is stealing period, but I'm just saying that some people have their reasons for it.

That doesn't make it right. Let's say, for the sake of argument...you get caught illegally downloading a movie. Telling them you felt you trying to stick it to studio and it was what they deserved, and that won't hold up anywhere. It doesn't give anyone the right to take what doesn't belong to them.

If I don't like the service in a store, it doesn't give me the right to start stealing stuff from the store. Movie studios are a business, the movies are their product--just because someone doesn't like the movie or the studio that made it, doesn't give them the right to take it.

Which again asks the question...if this movie was so vile to so many people, why would they want to download it anyway?

 

[Hulkster]

I stand corrected... and greatly humbled. It appears XTLS didn't drop just 60%, but a massve 66.9% on the second weekend. It's the ONLY big release of 2006 to place in BOM's largest drops(60%+) top 200+ chart. Here's some of the other notable entries on that list, with their placements and statistics:

# + title opening 2nd weekend + % gross
_________ _______ _______________ _____

#40-Hulk 62,128,420 18,847,620-69.9% 132,177,234
#72-XTLS 102,750,665 34,017,247-66.9% 234,250,044

#140- 93,687,367 34,910,393-62.7% 249,541,069
Harry Potter & the Prisoner of Azkaban

#205- 91,774,413 36,904,034-59.8% 281,576,461
Matrix Reloaded

Other summer 2006 blockbusters:

Superman 52,535,096 21,815,243-58.5% 195,476,617

Da Vinci 77,073,388 34,031,670-55.8% 217,536,138

POTC-DMC 135,634,554 62,345,264-54.0% 407,969,770

As you can see though, had XTLS only dropped 60% it would've been viewed as somewhat disappointing. However, a 66.9% is DEFINATELY cause for alarm I would say. Nevertheless, the final numbers are encouraging enough to warrant further exploration of the X-movieverse by Fox in some form or another. The X-Men's movie future is no where near as questionable as say... Superman's is. And XTLS was NOT the Batman and Robin, or even Matrix Revolutions, of the X-franchise as some would like the rest of us to believe... just mere wishful thinking.

I told you I'm not lying about the X3 drop on it's second week.
Now you know, And knowing is half the battle. GI JOE!!!

Which again asks the question...if this movie was so vile to so many people, why would they want to download it anyway?

Because we still have hope that all the rumors in X3 is wrong. But when I watched it, it turned out to be true.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

That doesn't make it right. Let's say, for the sake of argument...you get caught illegally downloading a movie. Telling them you felt you trying to stick it to studio and it was what they deserved, and that won't hold up anywhere. It doesn't give anyone the right to take what doesn't belong to them.

If I don't like the service in a store, it doesn't give me the right to start stealing stuff from the store. Movie studios are a business, the movies are their product--just because someone doesn't like the movie or the studio that made it, doesn't give them the right to take it.

Which again asks the question...if this movie was so vile to so many people, why would they want to download it anyway?

If you learned how to read you'd understand why SOME may download a movie.

SOME live in another country, SOME don't want to wait an extra two or three months to see the film if they live in Germany or Japan. From experience in living in Germany for seven years, the big time films don't get there on the day that America gets them. They usually arrive in the theaters about two or three months afterwards.

I wouldn't do it because the quality of the product is really crappy and is nothing compared to a theater experience.

And like the Hulkster pointed out that some wanted to see if the rumors were true, and they saw that it was a fact, so they just downloaded it instead or someone provided them with a bootleg company.

 

[danoyse]

If you learned how to read you'd understand why SOME may download a movie.

I see you're up to your usual polite reasoning...

SOME live in another country, SOME don't want to wait an extra two or three months to see the film if they live in Germany or Japan. From experience in living in Germany for seven years, the big time films don't get there on the day that America gets them. They usually arrive in the theaters about two or three months afterwards.

Yes, that's why downloading happens. It's still illegal.

I wouldn't do it because the quality of the product is really crappy and is nothing compared to a theater experience.

Agreed.

And like the Hulkster pointed out that some wanted to see if the rumors were true, and they saw that it was a fact, so they just downloaded it instead or someone provided them with a bootleg company.

And again...it's still stolen. There's no justification for it that makes it all right to do it. People have their reasons, yes...but nothing that will ever legally hold up to make it right.

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

If you learned how to read you'd understand why SOME may download a movie.

SOME live in another country, SOME don't want to wait an extra two or three months to see the film if they live in Germany or Japan. From experience in living in Germany for seven years, the big time films don't get there on the day that America gets them. They usually arrive in the theaters about two or three months afterwards.

I wouldn't do it because the quality of the product is really crappy and is nothing compared to a theater experience.

And like the Hulkster pointed out that some wanted to see if the rumors were true, and they saw that it was a fact, so they just downloaded it instead or someone provided them with a bootleg company.

It's still not justification.

I admit, I'm wrong for downloading X-Men: The Last Stand. And I did it because I don't want to wait for the DVD release in October to be able to watch it, and the film isn't in theatres anymore, so I can't just go down and pay my $10 to watch it.

Although, I will buy the movie when it comes out. Likely, 2 copies (the Collector's Edition for sure, and if the packagining is what I'm looking for, the trilogy box set. A possible 3rd copy if it comes out on UMD). And no amount of downloads stopped me from seeing the movie in theatres 7 times.

You're right. Stealing a car or robbing a bank is not the same as downloading a movie. But only on the severity of the crime. They are both theft. They are both illegal. And no "I didn't want to wait 3 months" and no "I wanted to see if the rumors were true" excuses justify it.

Case in point: You download the movie to see if the rumors are true. They are true, so you don't go see the movie in the theatres. The movie just lost money because someone watched the movie over bootleg, instead of going to the theatres like they should have done to see the movie. Now the movie is out $10.

That doesn't sound like a lot. But it's not just a few people downloading because they don't want to wait, or because they want to see if the rumors are true. This is something that happens by millions of people, worldwide.

These people who have their bootlegs won't buy the DVD, because most people who download aren't like me, where they will STILL buy the DVD despite having a downloaded bootleg on their computer. And when less people come to buy the DVD, I suffer, because I get less business in my store, and soon because we're losing money, we have to close the store down, and I am out of a job.

You keep saying if we'd learn to read... we'd read what? Your excuses for breaking the law? I don't care what the law is, whether it's piracy or murder, there is no "justification"... you're breaking the law, plain and simple.

And if YOU would read what we wrote, you'd see that it's not Tom Rothman, Simon Kinberg, or Zak Penn who are going to suffer. No, it's the people who are a bit more dependant on their jobs, the people who don't have 6, 7 figures in their bank account. It's the people like myself, the retailers, who lose business because people download bootleg copies of movies, instead of coming into the stores to buy DVD's. It's my store that loses money, and it's me, and my co-workers that lose their jobs. Or, like people posted earlier, it's the carpenters, chefs, and caterors who work on movie productions who will lose their jobs.

You're piracy doesn't hurt the people you want to hurt. It hurts the innocent people who's livelyhood depends on this product making money. Not Tom Rothman, who has 7 figures in his bank account, and will manage just fine if he loses a few thousand.

 

[chaseter]

If you learned how to read you'd understand why SOME may download a movie.

SOME live in another country, SOME don't want to wait an extra two or three months to see the film if they live in Germany or Japan. From experience in living in Germany for seven years, the big time films don't get there on the day that America gets them. They usually arrive in the theaters about two or three months afterwards.

I wouldn't do it because the quality of the product is really crappy and is nothing compared to a theater experience.

And like the Hulkster pointed out that some wanted to see if the rumors were true, and they saw that it was a fact, so they just downloaded it instead or someone provided them with a bootleg company.

It still doesn't f****ing justify pirating period. If 'knew how to read' then you would understand what we are trying to say. Stealing is stealing no matter what you steal. Because some person lives in the hills of Sweden and their local movie theatre won't get it until 6 months later...that is still stealing and it is still pirating to download it.

 

[LoGaN's RuNNer]

only newbies, gotta love them/us for making pointless threads.

Dude, your still a newb.
But yes, this guys on here b!tching and moaning like 5 yr olds does get anoing, if they hate the movie so much then stop frequenting the board and posting complain thread after complain thread. Because I also hate to break it to you but the majority of the people having no knowlege of the comic book universe, etc, liked X3.

 

[LoGaN's RuNNer]

i am sick of it... but, let their rage out... you're also complaining you are sick of complainers complaining all day...

You want the complainers to stop complaining then why not you start to stop acting like a complainer complaining



Lol

Tushea.

 

[X-Maniac]

Tushea.

Spelling, please! Good lord! The word you want is 'touche'.

http://www.answers.com/topic/touch

 

[La_She-Beast]

^Lol I think he was just joking
I can't understand why everyone is arguing about Hulkster's 'stealing' when we know perfectly that there are many members in this board who 'steal' too.

 

[chaseter]

^I am arguing for the fact that it is wrong but someone keeps opposing us by trying to justify their means to it. And another point is that some other people on here...names to be hidden...that pirated the movie and come on here to complain about why they think it sucked. They didn't even pay admission to see the movie...therefore are not at a loss...but think it is ok to come on here and complain complain complain about it.

 

[gambitfire]

Dude, your still a newb.
But yes, this guys on here b!tching and moaning like 5 yr olds does get anoing, if they hate the movie so much then stop frequenting the board and posting complain thread after complain thread. Because I also hate to break it to you but the majority of the people having no knowlege of the comic book universe, etc, liked X3.

Um there is like one complain thread. All other threads that involve complaining are still on topic. PPL who liked the movie have there thread as well. This thread called for an obvious response and it was complaints.

Oh and Majority of the ppl did not like or dislike the movie we don't know what the majority of ppl think unless we hold a cross country poll. But i can guarantee you one thing there as just as many ppl who hated it as those who loved it. Otherwise there wouldn't be so much complaining .

From my experience out of like 50 ppl i knew that saw it, one person liked it.