Story Gives FF2 Update

JMAfan said:
Hmmmm.....I don't remember that....the most recent we have from Avi is him saying he won't confirm if Galactus is or isn't in the movie....


I'm surprised that that Latino Review ad didn't make it here...that would have been huge news...

It was a series of video interviews w/ Arad they presented over several parts about a year ago. It was posted on the Hype. At that time the subject was regarding a Surfer movie and the interviewer implied that perhaps the big "G"'s look needed to be changed for film. Arad basically said he will look like Galactus. He also commented the wild speculation of Doom's look and that basically was unchanged.
 
Grog said:
It was a series of video interviews w/ Arad they presented over several parts about a year ago. It was posted on the Hype. At that time the subject was regarding a Surfer movie and the interviewer implied that perhaps the big "G"'s look needed to be changed for film. Arad basically said he will look like Galactus. He also commented the wild speculation of Doom's look and that basically was unchanged.

This one????
http://www.latinoreview.com/films_2005/fox/fantasticfour/avi-tim-audio.html
 
I know she can "hold things" like bubbles around heads ,hand cuffs, and what not. It's the "floating on thier own" I don't agree with.
Say Sue just makes a ball in mid air, now with nothing holding it I think it should fall.
The discs shouldn't float by them selves, I think they should have "wieght" to them, the force field is part of Sue seperated or not I think the field should have a type of substance to it while it's "solid".
 
Vartha said:
I'm not sure I like that idea. I aways thought her Field was a part of her, that idea is almost bordering on PSI type powers. Now if the FF used the up draft from Johnny's heat and they were on force gliders, which road those winds I could see it, but, having them move on thier own isn't the original power.


They seem to be using portions of all issues, which I like.....I thought that was kind of cool....and it was from her....she just project the things and they hopped aboard.....if she had lost her concentration they would have all dropped....she has also done a similiar thing with her and Reed in the regs....so I don't see a problem with putting it into the movie....both times Johnny was not there....I'm not sure if she has done the same thing in the UFF...

Sue also has Lygokinesis, Sue can also mentally generate a psionic field of invisible force apparently drawn from hyperspace, which she manipulates for a variety of effects. Most commonly, She generates near-indestructible invisible force fields around herself or other targets. She can vary the texture and tensile strength of her field to some extant, rendering it highly rigid or as soft and yielding as foam; softer variations on the field enable her to cushion impacts more gently, and are less likely to result in a psionic backlash against Sue herself. Sue can shape her psionic force fields into invisible constructs, usually simple shapes such as barriers, columns, cones, cylinders, darts, discs, domes, platforms, rams, ramps, slides and spheres. By generating additional force behind her psionic constructs, Sue can turn them into offensive weapons, ranging from massive invisible battering rams to small projectiles such as spheres and darts. She can generate solid force constructs as small as a marble or as large as 100 feet in diameter, and her hollow projections such as domes can extend up to several miles in area. By forming one of her force fields within an object and expanding the field, Susan can cause her target to explode. Susan can also travel atop animated constructs such as ramps, stairs, slides, columns and stepping discs, enabling her to simulate limited approximation of levitation or flight. She is capable of generating and manipulating multiple psionic force fields simultaneously.

Sue has come a long way baby....
 
JMAfan said:
It was a video series, maybe they converted it to just audio, but I'm pretty sure thats not the one I'm thinking of. Unfortunately, I don't see the vid I'm referring to on their archives, but then again I didn't see the page you just linked to either when I was looking around.

Arad talked a lot about X3 and fan fears for the film at the time. The Surfer thing was just a brief mention of long range projects in development and then the interviewer pushed the design issue. Either way, I would think that design plans from that long ago are fairly inconsequential. I was just pointing it out because it seemed relevant.
 
JMAfan said:
They seem to be using portions of all issues, which I like.....I thought that was kind of cool....and it was from her....she just project the things and they hopped aboard.....if she had lost her concentration they would have all dropped....she has also done a similiar thing with her and Reed in the regs....so I don't see a problem with putting it into the movie....both times Johnny was not there....I'm not sure if she has done the same thing in the UFF...

Sue also has Lygokinesis, Sue can also mentally generate a psionic field of invisible force apparently drawn from hyperspace, which she manipulates for a variety of effects. Most commonly, She generates near-indestructible invisible force fields around herself or other targets. She can vary the texture and tensile strength of her field to some extant, rendering it highly rigid or as soft and yielding as foam; softer variations on the field enable her to cushion impacts more gently, and are less likely to result in a psionic backlash against Sue herself. Sue can shape her psionic force fields into invisible constructs, usually simple shapes such as barriers, columns, cones, cylinders, darts, discs, domes, platforms, rams, ramps, slides and spheres. By generating additional force behind her psionic constructs, Sue can turn them into offensive weapons, ranging from massive invisible battering rams to small projectiles such as spheres and darts. She can generate solid force constructs as small as a marble or as large as 100 feet in diameter, and her hollow projections such as domes can extend up to several miles in area. By forming one of her force fields within an object and expanding the field, Susan can cause her target to explode. Susan can also travel atop animated constructs such as ramps, stairs, slides, columns and stepping discs, enabling her to simulate limited approximation of levitation or flight. She is capable of generating and manipulating multiple psionic force fields simultaneously.

Sue has come a long way baby....
lol You can say that again....I want my old Sue back, this one's confusing :D
 
Vartha said:
lol You can say that again....I want my old Sue back, this one's confusing :D

You put Sue of the 60's and 70's in the movie....."damsel in distress", the one to get captured and therefore saved by the men.....women....(like myself) will thumb their nose at the movie and say that doesn't resemble anything I want to be or want my daughter to be......at least the women I know...
 
Kirby created the very best version of these characters and that's the source material they should use and follow!
 
kirbyfan said:
Kirby created the very best version of these characters and that's the source material they should use and follow!

And I respect your opinion KF, but the originals don't necessarily speak to a wide audience of today....in some areas...YES.....definitely use that as homage to Kirby.....but to only use that....IMO would not work....as well as using the best of all....all have been read, and are being read....all speak to different people....all have fans....to only use one part, of one time period...of this group of people would speak to only the group of people that grew up with that....so YES pay homage to that and use it, but I don't want them to build the entire movie just around that. That would be like me saying....I loved the Marvel Knights issues, so only use those......or those here that really enjoy the UFF....so only use those....I don't want that either.
 
More reasons why FF1 should have been set in the sixties. We could have seen Sue grow over the course of the films into the less distressed (and less kidnapped) Invisible Woman. It would have been great to see that transition take place. At first the rest of the team regard her in the typical "male chauvinist" manner, but over the course of a few adventures it becomes apparent that she's possibly the most powerful member of the group.
And they could have used their Cold War origin...:(
Same thing would have worked great for the Hulk.

I think all the cornier, hokey aspects would have worked like a charm in that context. Being set several decades in the past certainly didn't hurt the Indiana Jones films.
 
Malus said:
More reasons why FF1 should have been set in the sixties. We could have seen Sue grow over the course of the films into the less distressed (and less kidnapped) Invisible Woman. It would have been great to see that transition take place. At first the rest of the team regard her in the typical "male chauvinist" manner, but over the course of a few adventures it becomes apparent that she's possibly the most powerful member of the group.
And they could have used their Cold War origin...:(
Same thing would have worked great for the Hulk.

I think all the cornier, hokey aspects would have worked like a charm in that context. Being set several decades in the past certainly didn't hurt the Indiana Jones films.

Well, hmmmmm....I don't know that I would have gone to a F4 set in the 60's...and Sue has grown to who she is now over 4 going into 5 decades....she didn't grow with age, she grew with society....and to try and put that into 3 possibly 4 movies, would have ended up losing alot of why I like the character of Sue and why Jessica chose her...of course to some they would have been happy if Jessica said no....so maybe that would have been better for those...:)
 
Gamma Ray said:
From SHH:




Seriously... Why is this man directing?

By saying that you worried me but after reading it, what are you talking about?:confused:
 
Malus said:
More reasons why FF1 should have been set in the sixties. We could have seen Sue grow over the course of the films into the less distressed (and less kidnapped) Invisible Woman. It would have been great to see that transition take place. At first the rest of the team regard her in the typical "male chauvinist" manner, but over the course of a few adventures it becomes apparent that she's possibly the most powerful member of the group.
And they could have used their Cold War origin...:(
Same thing would have worked great for the Hulk.

I think all the cornier, hokey aspects would have worked like a charm in that context. Being set several decades in the past certainly didn't hurt the Indiana Jones films.

The Indiana Jones films also weren't sci fi films and had Nazis as villians. Ya dig?

Setting the movies in the time periods they were created is just not a good idea unless it's truely important to the story. And it's not. And Reed saying "beat the commies" Wouldn't work too tell these days.
 
I think Comic films should mostly follow the comics...but change it up too. The movies are not a straight translation...they are an alternative reality story-lines basically. And that's fine...some things just won't work in movies that work in comics. (for instance...the way Doom talks in the comics would come off sounding incredibly corny and just BAD in movies)

As long as they use a lot of the source material it's fine...but things do need to change. Just like things changed from the mainstream FF series and the Ultumate FF series (both of which are very popular)
 
kirbyfan said:
Kirby created the very best version of these characters and that's the source material they should use and follow!

Most comic fans familiar with the originals would likely agree, while many younger fans more familiar with the 'cool' ultimate versions will likely not.

Whatever the case, from Story's comments it does seem he, or someone on the creative team, prefers the Ultimate versions so something much closer to that is unfortunately what we are likely to get lumbered with in regard to Silver Surfer and Galactus.

From a creative veiwpoint (and you would hope the guys making the films are basing their decisions on that) I really cannot see why though...Matrix style drones driven by an artificial intelligence? Well, we've seen that in the Matrix films, been done already, and using those designs will only invite criticism for lifting from those ideas.

A 60 ft armored giant landing in New York under a sky of fire though? Can't think of anything like that being done already off-hand.
 
wobbly said:
A 60 ft armored giant landing in New York under a sky of fire though? Can't think of anything like that being done already off-hand.

Well in a way...:o

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RedIsNotBlue said:
Well in a way...:o

crowd.jpg

Lol :)
But seriously...there's quite a bit of a difference between a giant marshmallow man and an armored alien planet-eater...Somehow I think they would avoid any complaints that they ripped anything off.
 
RedIsNotBlue said:
Hmmm. Maybe Ivan Reitman should have directed FF?

Well based on the Ghostbusters films I dont think he would have wimped out and thought the original Galactus too 'cheesy' to be done on screen.
Handled right the idea can be done well and remain faithful to the source.

Sadly, it does seem atm there's no-one working on this film that has the guts, imagination or faith to work with that. Hope Story proves me wrong, but I doubt it.
 
Hopefully Fox will give him more creative control this time around. And yeah thinking about it Ivan Reitman would have kicked ass for Fantastic Four.
 
zer00 said:
The Indiana Jones films also weren't sci fi films and had Nazis as villians. Ya dig?
Setting the movies in the time periods they were created is just not a good idea unless it's truely important to the story. And it's not. And Reed saying "beat the commies" Wouldn't work too tell these days.

No, I don't get that at all. The Indy films weren't set in that period just for the purpose of using Nazis. And I really don't think those films would be half as fun with a contemporary setting.
I think a Peyton Reed-directed FF set in '61 would have had a very unique charm, "beating commies into space" included. The FF's origin, unlike most other heroes' origins, like Superman, Spider-man or Batman, only works in the context of the Cold War. But- All that had to be jettisoned for the space station and radiation cloud, which worked so much better.:o
I just think it would have been cool. But of course we'll never know.
 
I think there's a distinct difference between the 40s and the 60s. In current popular culture, the 40s have this classic (duh) almost fairytale nature about them, the 60s, in short, do not. Yet. The political and cultural differences of that decade are still under debate, and still closely connected with a lot of people.

However, I will say, once the 60s become a bit more...hallowed in the public conscious, it'd probably be quite an excellent idea. I know I'd love to see a Batman movie set in 1940.
 

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