Superman by Kurt Busiek: Official Thread

[GoldenAgeHero]

ehh, if you're going to be doing a monthly title, then i think you should increase you pacing while still keeping the quality of you're art good. I see it as waste to keep an artist like carlos to miniseries and graphic novels.

 

[Darthphere]

Not necessarily lazy. Different artists work at different speeds. Personally, I'd prefer to see Pacheco just stick to mini-series and graphic novels. On monthly titles, his art always seems rushed in places. When he's the consistent artist for something, he rules. See Avengers Forever, Arrowsmith, and JLA/JSA: Virtue & Vice for proof.

Just have some artist ready to jump on in. Most artists these days can only do about 9 issues a year. Look at Ivan Reis, Daniel Acuna has been filling in for this 3 issue Star Sapphire arc and by all accounts that was planned ahead.

 

[yenaled]

Daniel Acuna managed to do those scripts and all the Uncle Sam stuff without one delay.

He needs a longterm monthly.

Like Aquaman or a new Kyle Rayner ongoing. Or others.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

ehh, if you're going to be doing a monthly title, then i think you should increase you pacing while still keeping the quality of you're art good. I see it as waste to keep an artist like carlos to miniseries and graphic novels.

You're missing the point. It's physically impossible for some artists to keep the quality of their art good while picking up their pace to something fast enough to support twelve issues a year. It's like trying to run a horse too hard for too long; eventually, they're going to burn out.

 

[CConn]

I also kinda like the idea of having two similar-style artist rotate on books. Like what they're doing on X-Men; rotating between Baccheo and Ramos. Granted, that's a bad example because Ramos sucks, but if it was somebody like Wieringo and Nauck, it could work.

 

[Darthphere]

I also kinda like the idea of having two similar-style artist rotate on books. Like what they're doing on X-Men; rotating between Baccheo and Ramos. Granted, that's a bad example because Ramos sucks, but if it was somebody like Wieringo and Nauck, it could work.

The prime example is Epting and Perkins on Cap.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Epting and Perkins on Cap rule. Another good penciling tag team is Travel Foreman and David Aja on The Immortal Iron Fist.

 

[Darthphere]

Thats a different situation though.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

True, but I wouldn't mind seeing them alternate.

 

[Darthphere]

Yeah, I know Foreman has that one issue he's doing by himself, but I would love to see him do a like 3 issue arc.

 

[The Leaguer]

For the first few pages of this issue, Busiek actually had me. It had everything I enjoy in a decent Superman comic: relatively interesting antagonists, Superman proving how overwhelmingly super he is, decent action and a Zauriel cameo. Even Pacheco's art was impressive (relative to everything else I've seen him draw). But as soon as that stupid "possible future" storyline popped back up, I was bored. He needs to wrap that storyline up quick, I'd really like to read a monthly Superman comic that doesn't suck.

 

[Darthphere]

You're probably reading it wrong.

 

[CConn]

I will say, this second half of the arc does seem to be treading water ever so slightly. I mean, the first half seemed to always have some quick action arc going in it at any given time. It got to (at least one) point quickly. These past issues seem to be getting a little lost, but I'm sure Busiek will be able to pull it out.

 

[Anubis]

Leaguer's Sexslexia is acting up again.

 

[The Leaguer]

You're probably reading it wrong.

The only right way to read Busiek's Superman is to not read it at all.

 

[CConn]

The Leaguer: Busiek's Superman sucks.
The World: ...no, it doesn't.
The Leaguer:

And that's what these past four pages have been like.

 

[The Leaguer]

You'd think that, by now, the world would have realized I'm always right.

 

[MaskedManJRK]

So, what is this "Camelot Falls" about and is it worth getting the first part in TPB?

 

[yenaled]

Arion travels forward in time to tell Superman he is the reason that humanity is going to fall and society perish, because he never lets humanity stand on it's own two feet. He even shows him the future that will be created through his actions as well. The only thing that will stop this is Superman, and all other alien heroes, to leave Earth. According to Arion anyway.

I really would reconmend it, I think has been a great Superman story so far.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I didn't like Arion very much. I started reading Busiek's run, but then I was like, "Arion? Meh" and I stopped.

 

[Darthphere]

I didn't like Arion very much. I started reading Busiek's run, but then I was like, "Arion? Meh" and I stopped.

Shallow.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Shallow.

And proud.

 

[The Leaguer]

At least you had some sort of red flag to warn you not to read it. I actually got to the STORY before I turned back, and it scarred me pretty bad.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

If only Pacheco had drawn Hal in the background somewhere. It would've burst into flames the moment you touched it and you would've known to spare yourself.

 

[The Leaguer]

Any other issue, maybe, but this issue had Zauriel, and that trumps Hal.