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Superman costume designer Colleen Atwood with Jon Schnepp.
Jon Schnepp's top "5" recommended Superman comic book stories of all time:
The Man of Steel by John Byrne (plus: the Superman run by John Byrne).
Kingdom Come by Mark Waid and Alex Ross.
Superman Annual #11 (1985) "For the Man Who Has Everything" by Alan Moore.
Superman #423 (1986) and Action Comics #583 (1986) "Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow?" by Alan Moore.
All-Star Superman by Grant Morrison.
Bonus: The Dark Knight Returns by Frank Miller. Jon Schnepp explained, "I know that's a Batman story, but to me that was one of the coolest and weirdest of Superman. To a certain degree you can see why Superman did what he did. Your sort of on his side but your sort of against him at the same time, just like Batman."
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In An Evening with Kevin Smith (2002) Smith mocked Burton's requested Wesley Strick rewrite as, "Presumably a version of Superman with scissors for hands."
In the documentary Look Up in the Sky! The Amazing Story of Superman (2006) Superman Returns (2006) screen writer Michael Dougherty said, "They weren't sticking true to what Superman really was. You don't give Superman a black latex suit with an S shield that comes off and forms daggers and things like that. That's just not who Superman is. We felt like (Richard) Donner did something really right in the first one. We were trying to put the Superman franchise back on track, bringing it back (to Donner's version.)"
It's been assumed by a lot of people that Burton's Superman would have been very dark, bleak, Gothic, angsty, long haired, only wearing a black latex suit, and never flying. But that wasn't really Burton's vision. The documentary The Death of "Superman Lives": What Happened? will clear up misunderstandings for a lot of people.
Even script writer Dan Gilroy noted in the book Superman vs. Hollywood (2008)...
Steve Johnson explained about the Kryptonian recovery K suit he designed and commented about the bashing the suit received from people that don't realize that it's only a Kryptonian recovery suit that Superman would wear temporarily in the process of regeneration and not Superman's standard suit. "I've had it with these things online saying 'This suit is probably why the movie didn't get made' and blah blah blah. What people don't understand is pretty straight forward. It was never meant to be the actual Superman suit. Superman dies, in Tim Burton's version. He's wrapped around by this alien presence which I would assume someone in the comics came up with (the Kryptonian Eradicator was created by Roger Stern in Action Comics Annual #2 (1989) "Memories of Krypton's Past." Superman was revived from death thanks to the Eradicator restoring his solar energy and reviving his body in a regeneration matrix in the Fortress of Solitude in Action Comics #690 (1993) "Lies & Revelations" by Roger Stern during the Reign of the Supermen (1993) arc that followed the Doomsday/Death of Superman (1992) arc and the Funeral for a Friend (1993) arc of the storyline that the movie was based on). It brings him back to life. So everybody looked at the suit and said 'Jesus, Tim Burton's lost his mind!' 'Steve's doing too much blow!' That wasn't what happened! It was never meant to be the Superman suit. It was an alien artifact wrapped around him. Let's put that on the record for once. Colleen Atwood designed the Superman suits. We had the real one, we also had the black and silver one (Superman did wear a black and silver recovery suit in the comics temporarily and used weapons after he returned and was powerless during the Reign of the Supermen arc from Superman: Man of Steel #25 (1993) "The Return!" by Louise Simonson, Superman #81 (1993) "Resurrections" by Dan Jurgens, Adventures of Superman #504 (1993) "Assault on Engine City!" by Karl Kesel, Action Comics #691 (1993) "Secret Weapon" by Roger Stern, Superman: Man of Steel #26 (1993) "Blast Off!" by Louise Simonson to Superman #82 (1993) "Back for Good!" by Dan Jurgens when Superman's powers returned). But the one people have seen wasn't meant to be the Superman suit, it was an alien artifact that was regenerating him and it was really that simple."
Designer Bradford Richardson said, "I suggested the exoskeleton for Superman's regeneration. The amazingly talented illustrator Jacques Rey worked up a drawing, it looked great and emphasized the metallic battle logo."
Jon Schnepp's top "5" recommended Superman comic book stories of all time:
The Man of Steel by John Byrne (plus: the Superman run by John Byrne).
Kingdom Come by Mark Waid and Alex Ross.
Superman Annual #11 (1985) "For the Man Who Has Everything" by Alan Moore.
Superman #423 (1986) and Action Comics #583 (1986) "Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow?" by Alan Moore.
All-Star Superman by Grant Morrison.
Bonus: The Dark Knight Returns by Frank Miller. Jon Schnepp explained, "I know that's a Batman story, but to me that was one of the coolest and weirdest of Superman. To a certain degree you can see why Superman did what he did. Your sort of on his side but your sort of against him at the same time, just like Batman."
[YT]-5BDTKZzACY[/YT]
In An Evening with Kevin Smith (2002) Smith mocked Burton's requested Wesley Strick rewrite as, "Presumably a version of Superman with scissors for hands."
In the documentary Look Up in the Sky! The Amazing Story of Superman (2006) Superman Returns (2006) screen writer Michael Dougherty said, "They weren't sticking true to what Superman really was. You don't give Superman a black latex suit with an S shield that comes off and forms daggers and things like that. That's just not who Superman is. We felt like (Richard) Donner did something really right in the first one. We were trying to put the Superman franchise back on track, bringing it back (to Donner's version.)"
It's been assumed by a lot of people that Burton's Superman would have been very dark, bleak, Gothic, angsty, long haired, only wearing a black latex suit, and never flying. But that wasn't really Burton's vision. The documentary The Death of "Superman Lives": What Happened? will clear up misunderstandings for a lot of people.
Even script writer Dan Gilroy noted in the book Superman vs. Hollywood (2008)...
Steve Johnson explained about the Kryptonian recovery K suit he designed and commented about the bashing the suit received from people that don't realize that it's only a Kryptonian recovery suit that Superman would wear temporarily in the process of regeneration and not Superman's standard suit. "I've had it with these things online saying 'This suit is probably why the movie didn't get made' and blah blah blah. What people don't understand is pretty straight forward. It was never meant to be the actual Superman suit. Superman dies, in Tim Burton's version. He's wrapped around by this alien presence which I would assume someone in the comics came up with (the Kryptonian Eradicator was created by Roger Stern in Action Comics Annual #2 (1989) "Memories of Krypton's Past." Superman was revived from death thanks to the Eradicator restoring his solar energy and reviving his body in a regeneration matrix in the Fortress of Solitude in Action Comics #690 (1993) "Lies & Revelations" by Roger Stern during the Reign of the Supermen (1993) arc that followed the Doomsday/Death of Superman (1992) arc and the Funeral for a Friend (1993) arc of the storyline that the movie was based on). It brings him back to life. So everybody looked at the suit and said 'Jesus, Tim Burton's lost his mind!' 'Steve's doing too much blow!' That wasn't what happened! It was never meant to be the Superman suit. It was an alien artifact wrapped around him. Let's put that on the record for once. Colleen Atwood designed the Superman suits. We had the real one, we also had the black and silver one (Superman did wear a black and silver recovery suit in the comics temporarily and used weapons after he returned and was powerless during the Reign of the Supermen arc from Superman: Man of Steel #25 (1993) "The Return!" by Louise Simonson, Superman #81 (1993) "Resurrections" by Dan Jurgens, Adventures of Superman #504 (1993) "Assault on Engine City!" by Karl Kesel, Action Comics #691 (1993) "Secret Weapon" by Roger Stern, Superman: Man of Steel #26 (1993) "Blast Off!" by Louise Simonson to Superman #82 (1993) "Back for Good!" by Dan Jurgens when Superman's powers returned). But the one people have seen wasn't meant to be the Superman suit, it was an alien artifact that was regenerating him and it was really that simple."
Designer Bradford Richardson said, "I suggested the exoskeleton for Superman's regeneration. The amazingly talented illustrator Jacques Rey worked up a drawing, it looked great and emphasized the metallic battle logo."
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