Superman Reboot Writers Workshop

[Pickle-El]

I dont like it, very cliche route to take killing Richard of to make room for a ready made family for Supes. Try a reboot script you will have more to work with instead of getting boxed in by SR mistakes.

Wellsy did a great job on that script. Easily the best one I've read on the Hype. Why don't you try the cliched reboot route, as in actually writing your own script instead of complaining about others, and come back later so we can tear that a new one? Thanks.

 

[Dark Knight]

Well, just incase it wasn't, I give you, the Superman movie so perfect, Hollywood would never make it

I like your Termintaor 2 style opening. Thats a good idea and I think they should use something like that as well for the sequel. Instead I think the writers should use Geoff Johns opening of his new arc in Action Comics and then use that scene of Clark having a nightmare and then waking up inside his spaceship from his slumber when he arrives in Krypton. Thats when they can use the Return to Krypton scenes that were going to be used in SR.

 

[SatEL]

Wellsy did a great job on that script. Easily the best one I've read on the Hype. Why don't you try the cliched reboot route, as in actually writing your own script instead of complaining about others, and come back later so we can tear that a new one? Thanks.

Why so serious? He obviously put the script here seeking opinions and I laid mine out. If I ever get round to finishing my script I will be happy to post it......................thanks.

 

[wellsy]

And Satel (I refuse to spell your name with misused capitals anymore ), I know that killing Richard is cliched and a bit derivative, but just try to imagine it - it demonstrates a limit to Superman's powers that he cannot overcome (which has really only been shown in STM when his father died), and I think it would be a fascinating aspect to explore, especially given Jason's presence in the franchise.

Oh, and the reason I'm quite happy to work within the confines of a sequel is because I enjoyed SR. I can't say that I'm familiar enough with Superman comics to competently write a reboot either, so I'll stick with what I know and like.

But anyway, I'd love to see your script.

Wellsy did a great job on that script. Easily the best one I've read on the Hype. Why don't you try the cliched reboot route, as in actually writing your own script instead of complaining about others, and come back later so we can tear that a new one? Thanks.

Don't worry Pickle - I've actually had much of the same when I posted it earlier. Thanks for the high praise though - it's a rough work, and I haven't done much to it for a good while now (almost a year, if not longer - but I was truly inspired when I wrote it).

Also, as a writer, I prefer to read criticisms. It's the best way to improve to a point (I mean, sure, there are always people who just won't like it no matter how well done it is, but I like to look at what common criticisms are and see if I can answer them).

So, anyone else have any comments?

 

[SatEL]

And Satel (I refuse to spell your name with misused capitals anymore ), I know that killing Richard is cliched and a bit derivative, but just try to imagine it - it demonstrates a limit to Superman's powers that he cannot overcome (which has really only been shown in STM when his father died), and I think it would be a fascinating aspect to explore, especially given Jason's presence in the franchise.

Oh, and the reason I'm quite happy to work within the confines of a sequel is because I enjoyed SR. I can't say that I'm familiar enough with Superman comics to competently write a reboot either, so I'll stick with what I know and like.

But anyway, I'd love to see your script.


Don't worry Pickle - I've actually had much of the same when I posted it earlier. Thanks for the high praise though - it's a rough work, and I haven't done much to it for a good while now (almost a year, if not longer - but I was truly inspired when I wrote it).

Also, as a writer, I prefer to read criticisms. It's the best way to improve to a point (I mean, sure, there are always people who just won't like it no matter how well done it is, but I like to look at what common criticisms are and see if I can answer them).

So, anyone else have any comments?

Well glad to see your able to handle negative feedback for your script, feel free to not spell my name with "misused capitals" heck knock your self out. Just as long as I understand your referring to me then it's fine Wellsy sorry I forgot it's wellsy. Anyway keep up the good work since the only sequel to Singerman that will ever see the light of day is fan fiction scripts written by fanboys with limited knowledge of the character.

 

[Showtime]

. Anyway keep up the good work since the only sequel to Singerman that will ever see the light of day is fan fiction scripts written by fanboys with limited knowledge of the character.

So let me get this straight, fanboys who like Superman Returns have limited knowledge of the character. I really hope that is not what you're saying.

 

[SatEL]

So let me get this straight, fanboys who like Superman Returns have limited knowledge of the character. I really hope that is not what you're saying.

I can't say I'm familiar enough with Superman comics to competently write a reboot either,

From the horses mouth.

 

[Showtime]

That's a relief. For a minute there I thought you were trying to say that somebody that enjoyed Superman Returns doesn't have knowledge of the character of Superman. Now I know you weren't making an idiotic statement like that.

 

[nintendo nerd]

Well glad to see your able to handle negative feedback for your script, feel free to not spell my name with "misused capitals" heck knock your self out. Just as long as I understand your referring to me then it's fine Wellsy sorry I forgot it's wellsy. Anyway keep up the good work since the only sequel to Singerman that will ever see the light of day is fan fiction scripts written by fanboys with limited knowledge of the character.

Wow. You really are a Jerk.

 

[GreenKToo]

Well, just incase it wasn't, I give you, the Superman movie so perfect, Hollywood would never make it

Me likey.

 

[charl_huntress]

Okay, so my theory is a Justice League movie is the best way to introduce Superman. Batman should take the lead to form the organization, or GL, and the key target for the new team is Superman.

He should be introduced in the in the subplot and introduced at the end.

 

[Dark Knight]

I think that either Richard or Jason will most likely die in MOS.

 

[wellsy]

Wow. You really are a Jerk.

Easy there. I said it myself - I'm not familiar enough. Oh, sure, there's wikipedia and the Internet, but I honestly can't say that I have knowledge of enough of the franchise to write a good reboot script.

And frankly, I'm not sure why I need to be defended. I mean, I do appreciate it, but I'm perfectly capable of defending myself and my position. Certainly, I'm not too into Superman comics (I prefer to read my comics backwards, although Japanese honourifics make me flinch), but that doesn't mean I can't be creative with a general knowledge of the character and continuity.

If given a clean slate, I think I could do it, but references would be unintentional and vague. So I stick to what's comfortable for me.

 

[Nightwing1977]

From the horses mouth.

You should know that just one person. There more that know about the comics than you think. Way to judge from just one person.

 

[Slugster]

Ya know you could make a realistic Superman.

Make him where his powers are great, but he needs to work at it like the Fleischer cartoons. Like he struggles to do certain things but can still get the job done. (Almost) like he needs to summon his powers.
Make his suit from krypton but more along the lines of material, not costume.
Let him make it to be a sign of hope. And use the material because it is Kryptonian and is indestructible, because of the yellow sun. more classic than returns but more viverent colors, and kind of almost metallic, a larger S but only as big as STM, put the S back on the cape, no S on the belt, make the cape shorter., make the neck open, and make the cape drape down his back from his shoulders. Also make the trunks less speedo.
Change his hair from right as Clark, to left as Superman with the S curl.

Make him Love Lois from afar almost an infatuation. Make him be more of a recluse than a clumsy goofball.
Make Superman, avoid close contact with Lois, because his working relationship as Clark, because he does not want to reveal his identity, and knowing him as well would give it away. But still keeps a close eye on her to protect her because of his feelings. along with almost all pictures being blurry from the super speed.
His relationship with jimmy was as Clark only.

Make Lex Luthor kind of like he is on Smallville but has no real past with Clark.
Make him come up with some sick minded way of inventing Metallo and make John Corbett (Metallo) think it was Superman who caused him to be that way, only to find out later that it was Lex. After he does all this damage trying to kill Superman for Lex.
So now in a bit of irony, Superman has to protect Lex Luthor

Then have at the end of the movie have Darkseid threaten the Earth…
Ready for the Next Movie?

 

[xero1186]

I just want to see Superman punch something, anything! It could be a car, darkseid, dogs, brian singer, just anything!

 

[Asteroid-Man]

Superman should NOT be dark. Even Metropolis at night time was said to look like day due to all of the lights. Metropolis was always a city of high morality which is why when a villain was introduced everyone would flip out cause it was something different and unexpected. Some stuff a Superman Movie needs:

-A Gold Tone to the film (like in the COMICS)
-A Goddamn Villain with SUPER POWERS so we can see some goddamn...
-Action and LOTS of it
-A good plot adaptation for a film (which we have yet to see in the Superman films, including Doomsday)
-Humour as Clark Kent
-A quick nod at his origin

The only way I could see a little bit of Darkness done in the film is if this movie is a spinoff of Smallville. I know Smallville looks cheap and what not, but give it a good budget and a director like Chris Nolan, and the movie will be good.

Here me out, they want Dark, Smallville has been getting dark and it can slowly build up to it in the last 20 episodes. You could then have the story be that he just became Superman and that Lex is missing and there's another Super-Villain around and go around that. The whole time, Clark Kent has to be his bumbling-bafoon self again (which Tom is really good at) to hide his persona. Have one of his enemies find out who he is. We've never had that in a Superman movie. I think if they WANT a dark film, they won't be able to just have it be dark just like that. We have Smallville, use it to your advantage as a slow transition.

 

[metropolitanpsy]

Its Simple Hire The Nolan Man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Motown Marvel]

i think when dealing with jason, the solution is simple: go the mon-el route.

brainiac kidnaps jason to use him for his own purposes, which could be many. at a certain point, brainiac injects jason with an alien virus. unable to cure him, but not wanting him to die, superman takes the drastic measure of sending jason to the phantom zone, where he will be in limbo until superman can find a cure to save his life.

this will leave open numerous story possibilites and character angles that can be followed up if wished. if not, then the troublesome jason character will at least now be out of the picture.

 

[SuperDaniel]

I say Luthor and Brainiac together in the first film

My script:

Act 1:

- We open with Clark Kent around the world trying to do good. Especially in war of some kind created by new weapons fabricated by LexCorp. He is there helping people, the ones injured. Think something like Superman: Peace on Earth. The war is eventually over but thinks he needs to do more to inspire people so it wouldn't happen again. He needs to be a symbol of hope.

-Returns to Smallville to make the identity of Superman and as he returns to his home city, he remembers his childhood and learnings.

Act 2:

-Lexcorp is known for distribuiting technollogy around the world and making Metropolis the most advanced city on the planet. Luthor controls peoples lives.

-Lois is a truth seeking reporter who tries to reveal the world the true maniac Luthor is. Superman appears and works with Lois to bring down Luthor.

-There is no Metropolis Clark Kent and that is the twist! He just Superman at this point.

-We learn that the technollogy from LexCorp was based in a AI, UFO, the fell in the artic. Luthor found a way to control it and make good use of it for profit.

Act 3:

-The AI known as Brainiac takes over LexCorp and world's defense system to destroy Earth to make New Krypton.

-Superman learns the origins of his home planet he was seeking in the beggining and must chose between being a Kryptonian or protector of Earth.

-He choses both as he learns about the story of his father Jor-el and his sacrifice to save his life and Krypton.

-Brainiac vs Superman showdown in Brainiac's fortress in the Artic . World battle. Imagine: Army vs advanced technollogy. Superman is hurt but is saved by Lois Lane.

-Luthor finds a way to save people from Brainiac even though it was Jimmy Olsen who created a virus of some kind. He is revered as the saviour of manking and plans to candidate for President.

-Superman thinks he failed to be a hero because Luthor won.

ANd finally

-Inspired by Lois, he decides to act as a reporter, develop a new identity, to try to bring down Luthor adding Truth to his moral compass. The begginig of Lois & Clark relationship.

End

 

[HR-PUFF&STUFF]

I say Luthor and Brainiac together in the first film

My script:

Act 1:

- We open with Clark Kent around the world trying to do good. Especially in war of some kind created by new weapons fabricated by LexCorp. He is there helping people, the ones injured. Think something like Superman: Peace on Earth. The war is eventually over but thinks he needs to do more to inspire people so it wouldn't happen again. He needs to be a symbol of hope.

-Returns to Smallville to make the identity of Superman and as he returns to his home city, he remembers his childhood and learnings.

Act 2:

-Lexcorp is known for distributing technology around the world and making Metropolis the most advanced city on the planet. Luthor controls peoples lives.

-Lois is a truth seeking reporter who tries to reveal the world the true maniac Luthor is. Superman appears and works with Lois to bring down Luthor.

-There is no Metropolis Clark Kent and that is the twist! He just Superman at this point.

-We learn that the technology from LexCorp was based in a AI, UFO, the fell in the arctic. Luthor found a way to control it and make good use of it for profit.

Act 3:

-The AI known as Brainiac takes over LexCorp and world's defense system to destroy Earth to make New Krypton.

-Superman learns the origins of his home planet he was seeking in the beggining and must chose between being a Kryptonian or protector of Earth.

-He choses both as he learns about the story of his father Jor-el and his sacrifice to save his life and Krypton.

-Brainiac vs Superman showdown in Brainiac's fortress in the Artic . World battle. Imagine: Army vs advanced technollogy. Superman is hurt but is saved by Lois Lane.

-Luthor finds a way to save people from Brainiac even though it was Jimmy Olsen who created a virus of some kind. He is revered as the saviour of manking and plans to candidate for President.

-Superman thinks he failed to be a hero because Luthor won.

ANd finally

-Inspired by Lois, he decides to act as a reporter, develop a new identity, to try to bring down Luthor adding Truth to his moral compass. The begginig of Lois & Clark relationship.

End

a few things-

1, i would change Brainiac to the Eradicator as that is what you are really using in the story. Have the Eradicator try to turn Superman to its side, this way WB can get a "darker superman".

2, you need to have city Clark in the movie. he is needed for the viewer to see through.

3, i would have superman stop the threat in the movie and in doing so giving lex his way out. Superman could toss the Eradicator into the sun (as he did in the comics).

 

[SuperDaniel]

My idea is that i see no way of why or how Superman would like to pretend he is an ordinary human being. My Superman would be totally foccused on being a man of action. Of serving justice, helping orthers.

Also, I dont buy the idea that he needs to be a reporter to know where danger is faster. Thats Bs. He has Superhearing, extraordinary senses etc.

After his raising in Smallville and things that happens in my script, he will clearly cease to be Clark Kent to transform into Superman. That is the most important thing.

It's only in the end when Lex Luthor wins and gets in the run for presidency that Superman realizes that fighting for Justice isn't enough. Because of Lois Lane, who almost gives up of her life to uncover the truth that Superman thinks he should spread his word, his morals, through another way: Being a reporter. As they say, the pen is mightier than the sword.

Superman in my script would be a totally relatable guy and you WILL believe in him so there is no need for Clark Kent. The dynamics with Lois is there as Superman. Trust me on this. You have to read the script to see how it works.

You dont give everything in the first movie. Lois & Clark relationship is something for the sequel.You give hints of where to go in a sequel.

 

[gspot]

You know what i'd like to see?

A new script, written by someone who understands Superman - like Geoff Johns. A serious threat for the man of Steel - oh i don't know - like his Brainaic! Have Brainiac, the villain ultimately responsible for the destruction of Krypton, give Superman a run for his money.

ROUTH. Keep him - he was great.

I'd like to see Spacey return - but not as the Luthor we've seen so far on screen, but as the Lex we all know he is in the comics - the one that perceives himself as a hero. Have Lex attempt to cash in on Brainaic, to try and join forces for his own benefit. And when Brainiac refuses to deal with him, Lex should form an uneasy alliance with Superman to save the world from Brainiac.

Superman would do so because he'd have no choice - why not let Brainiac kidnap his son? Make it personal - Big Blue has to save the boy. Ignoring the last film is a mistake. Killing the boy is also a mistake. SO - let the child save Superman - bravely preventing the Man of Steel from falling before Brainiac, but in the process - losing his powers in order to save his father.

That would solve everything. No more Superpowered son, but done so without killing him. Giving Superman a threat deserving of the greatest hero on the planet. Rehabilitating Lex and exonerating him by acting in conjunction with the Man Of Steel (but also leaving him with Brainiac tech for future films...)

It would set us up with a Bright future - one with a business man Lex, potentially Metallo could follow. It would deepen the Superman mythos by explaining what destroyed Krypton, and make a epic yet personal story for the Man Of Steel.

I think they should also get John Williams back and let him build all new themes, and really push the envelope, while keeping it squarely within the realm of a Superman film.

Well those are my two cents.

 

[Jochimus]

I say weave elements of the origin into an introduction for Brainiac, in the vein of S:TAS and Johns' Brainiac run. That way you have the origin brought up without having to COMPLETELY retread it, plus you have a villain from the comics who isn't Luthor.

 

[GreenKToo]

This is more of an outline of the type of action scene(s) i'd like to see. The fight is already in progress between Brainiac and Superman.

Brainiac lunges toward Superman and hits him square under the chin, sending him flying up through 10 floors and on for another half a mile before he crashes into the street, carving a deep trench in the pavement where he lands.

Superman slowly rises, spitting out blood.

Superman shouts a warning to people to get off the street. Brainiac lands nearby. He picks up a car and tosses it. Superman rushes to save a woman that is caught in the crossfire and deflects the car away from her at the last second.
He wisks her to the safety of a nearby alley, turns, and gets hit by Brainiac again. It knocks the man of steel through two highrises and on farther.

STREET LEVEL: A MILE AWAY.
a busy street, people are going about their business, buying at shops, driving, walking, etc.

A strange whistling sound fills the air.

It grows louder. People look around curious.

Someone finally looks up and points, ''look, up in the sky''. People scatter and flee.

Superman's body lands in the middle of the busy street and slides on into a service station parking lot where a gasoline truck is unloading. Momentum carries him on into the tractor trailer and his body crushes it like a tin can.

Fuel starts pouring out of the crushed trailer and it flows down the street.

The driver of the truck and others nearby flee for their lives.

A few seconds later the fuel reaches a discarded cigarette and it ignites.

The fire reaches the trailer and it explodes into a huge fireball engulfing nearby cars and buildings in flames.

A dazed Superman rises to his feet and uses his superbreath on the fire.

Civilians scatter for cover, and news crews start arriving on scene to catch the event on film.