Superman vs. Captain Marvel

[incubat]

i think of kyle as green lantern more than of hal

 

[incubat]

btw, i get your point chuckymack, but hal hasn't been the lantern for a long time, so you can't expect everybody to back you up on that, and the jlu IS a great show

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Everbody knows Alan is THE Green Lantern! Everyone else is just a copycat.

Preach it.

 

[The Leaguer]

More of today's reader think Kyle.

My generation thinks Hal

Your generation is obsolete. Go to bed, grampa.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Your generation is obsolete. Go to bed, grampa.

Outmodded, inefficient, and an anchor is the politically correct term.

 

[Vic Von Doom]

Alan Scott is not THE Green Lantern. His weakness is wood. I could beat Alan Scott with a piece of firewood. I could beat Alan Scott and the Martian Manhunter with a wooden match, to go you one better...but I digress. How about Alan Scott, the Manhunter, the Atom, and Hawkman...with a wooden match and a laser pointer??

Sorry...but c'mon. He's a real cool guy and all, but I'm 22 and I think Hal Jordan is the man. I like Kyle Rayner, but I think the whole Ion thing is stupid. So it's not a generational thing, I love Hal.

And all Captain Marvel is is a big-time direct Superman ripoff. Didn't DC sue whatever company had Marvel and win? Superman is vulnerable to magic, it's true, but Captain Marvel is vulnerable to Kryptonian punches in the jaw.

And to whoever said it, if Bruce Banner triggered his transformation to the Hulk verbally, Spider-Man WOULD beat him if he held his hand over Banner's mouth. So there.

 

[The Leaguer]

Hal Jordan is the woman. He is not a man. He is a *****.

 

[Vic Von Doom]

Hal Jordan is the woman. He is not a man. He is a *****.

Wow, we're arguing about this in two separate threads. Any point? Eh. Agree to disagree, I suppose...you will never convince me that your angel guy is better than Hal and vice versa. Whatever.

 

[The Leaguer]

I do not agree to disagree, I agree to force you to agree with me. Agreed?

 

[Vic Von Doom]

I do not agree to disagree, I agree to force you to agree with me. Agreed?

Pfff. I don't get it. Did you read New Frontier? The Last Will and Testament of Hal Jordan? Rebirth? He socked Batman in the jaw! He's the bravest man on Earth! In a Corps made up of the bravest men and women and whatevers on each planet, he's the greatest of them all, except when he's murdering the other ones...but that was just the one time and he's better now.

Oh! And he sacrificed his life to reignite the SUN! He saved the entire solar system!

 

[The Leaguer]

I was with you until Rebirth.

Rebirth f***ing sucks, and referencing it ruins any credility you had.

 

[KAD]

Your generation is obsolete. Go to bed, grampa.

And yours is irrelevant, not to mention rude.

 

[Vic Von Doom]

I was with you until Rebirth.

Rebirth f***ing sucks, and referencing it ruins any credility you had.

What sucks about it? Johns brought back a character that never should have gone away in the first place along with his archenemy, and did it in a way that didn't make people scratch their heads and say whaaaaa like the wacked out way Green Arrow came back, for instance.

But if you were with me til then, that means you enjoyed Jordan in LWAT and New Frontier...do you like the guy or not? Or do you just not like the way his solo book is going right now? Because I hate the Spider-Man books right now, but I don't call Spidey a *****.

 

[The Leaguer]

I don't like the guy, and I hate the solo book.

Johns brought back a character that was boring when he was good, was a billion times more interesting a villain, and was ultimately better off dead, and did it in a way that insulted fans intelligence.

And yours is irrelevant, not to mention rude.

Mine is not irrelevant, because mine is right.

 

[KAD]

I don't like the guy, and I hate the solo book.

Johns brought back a character that was boring when he was good, was a billion times more interesting a villain, and was ultimately better off dead, and did it in a way that insulted fans intelligence.


Mine is not irrelevant, because mine is right.

Sure your right.

If you weren't such a block head you would realize that I was saying Kyle is considered The GL of today.

Personally I like Kilowog

 

[The Leaguer]

What does realizing that you said Kyle is considered the GL of today and you liking Kilowog have anything to do with what I said?

 

[Vic Von Doom]

I don't like the guy, and I hate the solo book.

Johns brought back a character that was boring when he was good, was a billion times more interesting a villain, and was ultimately better off dead, and did it in a way that insulted fans intelligence.


Mine is not irrelevant, because mine is right.

How did it insult fans intelligence? I didn't feel insulted and I liked the explanation of Parallax. It was a good way to explain Hal's insanity without retconning anything.

 

[KAD]

What does realizing that you said Kyle is considered the GL of today and you liking Kilowog have anything to do with what I said?

Lets see you make a snide comment because I mention that kyle is the considered the GL of Today and Hal more so by my generation.

I assume you made your snide remark because you support Kyle

I was pointing out that I was posting in support of Kyle but I really think Killowog is The GL

 

[Green Goblin 1964]

supes

 

[Toby_Temple]

And all Captain Marvel is is a big-time direct Superman ripoff. Didn't DC sue whatever company had Marvel and win? Superman is vulnerable to magic, it's true, but Captain Marvel is vulnerable to Kryptonian punches in the jaw.

Know your history there pal. Supes was just a jumping super strong guy when he was created while Cap was a flying one. So DC decided to copy Marvel's powers and put it to Supes. But Marvel was still more famous and his comics were selling more. That's why DC sued Fawcett comics. Fawcett conceded the legal battle coz of the decline of comics during there time and the legal issues was eating on their resources. And don't forget that Fawcett won the initial hearing. But DC continued their campaign to save their hero. They won in their appeal. But Fawcett comics decided to settle it with National(now DC) coz of the rapid decline of of comic sales in the 1950's. DC only won coz Fawcett conceded and not because Marvel was indeed a copy of Supes.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

What sucks about it? Johns brought back a character that never should have gone away in the first place along with his archenemy, and did it in a way that didn't make people scratch their heads and say whaaaaa like the wacked out way Green Arrow came back, for instance.

What was hard to understand about the way Green Arrow came back? I much preferred it to the yellow fear cockroach who's somehow as powerful as the Spectre but still too weak to stand up to a handful of GLs, and magically wipes away all of that pesky "taking personal responsibility for one's actions" thing.

Also, you just contradicted yourself. Captain Marvel is lame because he's a rip-off of Superman (which, in fact, he's not), since Superman came first? Wouldn't that make every Silver Age GL lame because they're rip-offs of the original GL Alan Scott?

 

[The Leaguer]

Lets see you make a snide comment because I mention that kyle is the considered the GL of Today and Hal more so by my generation.

I assume you made your snide remark because you support Kyle

I was pointing out that I was posting in support of Kyle but I really think Killowog is The GL

All my comments are snide, it's the only language I know.

You referred to your generation, so I referred to your generation. If you consider yourself an exception to your comment, then it would be safe to say you are excepted from mine.

Unless you like Hal Jordan, then you, too, are obsolete.

 

[Czar Colossus]

Captain Marvel is Superman's equal.
That is the dynamic of their relationship. It's this status that gives Cap a hallowed place in the DC Universe. It was a main plot device in one of comicdoms greatest stories, Kingdom Come.
I do like how they modified their relationship in First Thunder, having Superman find out that Cap's really just a kid right away and then sharing his identity with Billy. I'd like to see this explored more. Cap emulating Superman as the standard to meet makes absolute sense since he is the one superhuman that is Superman's equal. I hope that the relationship between the two can still be explored with Cap's recent developments.

 

[CanaryFan]

Know your history there pal. Supes was just a jumping super strong guy when he was created while Cap was a flying one. So DC decided to copy Marvel's powers and put it to Supes. But Marvel was still more famous and his comics were selling more. That's why DC sued Fawcett comics. Fawcett conceded the legal battle coz of the decline of comics during there time and the legal issues was eating on their resources. And don't forget that Fawcett won the initial hearing. But DC continued their campaign to save their hero. They won in their appeal. But Fawcett comics decided to settle it with National(now DC) coz of the rapid decline of of comic sales in the 1950's. DC only won coz Fawcett conceded and not because Marvel was indeed a copy of Supes.

Sorry but in the original case Captian Marvel was ruled a copyrite infringement but it was ruled that DC had abandoned thier copyrites due to failing to copyrite certain uses of Superman. In the appeal the copyrite abandonment was overturned and DC won outrite. They later bought the rites to the character and were sued by Marvel over the name. Marvel won so Dc has to publish Captian Marvel under the Shazam title.

 

[Whirlysplat]

Sorry but in the original case Captian Marvel was ruled a copyrite infringement but it was ruled that DC had abandoned thier copyrites due to failing to copyrite certain uses of Superman. In the appeal the copyrite abandonment was overturned and DC won outrite. They later bought the rites to the character and were sued by Marvel over the name. Marvel won so Dc has to publish Captian Marvel under the Shazam title.

Rites, so its religious am I right?

- Whirly