'Sword of Truth' aka Legend of the Seeker

[Dugath]

If you have not read the books I can see where this series might be somewhat enjoyable.

If you have read the books, like I have, this series is awful. The only thing this has in common wth the books are the character names and the basic Idea that Richard has to stop Rahl, which by the way does not even really tell you why.

Spoiler

Basiclly Rahl has put 2 out of 3 magic boxes in "play". He has to open one box. One will destroy him, one will destroy everything, and one will give him the power over life magic, where he can basiclly do anything at anytime, ie, think of a person and kill them in any way he desires. Also Rahl is a mean guy. So Richard has to try and stop Rahl from getting the 3rd box, and Kill him (which he can not use the sword to do btw)

They really messed up everything else, leaving things out, to totally changing things. I dont want to say what else they messed up because I do not want to give any any spoilers for those who read the books.

Truthfully for those how have not read the books and actualy like this show you are missing out on so much more. It is a real shame how "hallow" this series is with regaurds to the amount of material it is leaving out.

 

[TheVileOne]

The boxes of Orden are in play people .

 

[zanos]

Ok so I saw this week's episode "Identity" and it was just woeful. Are these the best ideas a team of writers and executive producers can come up with week to week? It's embarrassing. After the first 3 episodes I was upbeat about the show but the last 3 is showing me more and more why this series should be cancelled. A kid who can read minds, magic in a bottle and now switching identities? Who exactly are coming up with these? There is absolutely no substance to any of these stories.

The secondary characters like the kid in black face from elixir and shota in Identity were awful. The dialogue and acting is so cheesy it's shameful. When Shota delivered her prophecy to Kahlan in the way she did I couldn't help but feel embarrassed. Not to mention Kahlan shouldn't have reacted to it the way she did. That particular propecy was actually taken from another book and not the first one.

Also can they please STOP panning to Richard and Kahlan looking at each other already? We get it already. They like each other. Let's move on to more meaningful subplots that progress their relationship a little more for god's sake.

The only good in this ep was when Kahlan told Richard about her power. However here's the bad. She had already explained it in last week's episode!! This basically proves my point about the writing on this show. Oh and Aydindril is pronounced A-din-drill not I-din-dril.

 

[batgirl2119]

Ok so I saw this week's episode "Identity" and it was just woeful. Are these the best ideas a team of writers and executive producers can come up with week to week? It's embarrassing. After the first 3 episodes I was upbeat about the show but the last 3 is showing me more and more why this series should be cancelled. A kid who can read minds, magic in a bottle and now switching identities? Who exactly are coming up with these? There is absolutely no substance to any of these stories.

The secondary characters like the kid in black face from elixir and shota in Identity were awful. The dialogue and acting is so cheesy it's shameful. When Shota delivered her prophecy to Kahlan in the way she did I couldn't help but feel embarrassed. Not to mention Kahlan shouldn't have reacted to it the way she did. That particular propecy was actually taken from another book and not the first one.

Also can they please STOP panning to Richard and Kahlan looking at each other already? We get it already. They like each other. Let's move on to more meaningful subplots that progress their relationship a little more for god's sake.

The only good in this ep was when Kahlan told Richard about her power. However here's the bad. She had already explained it in last week's episode!! This basically proves my point about the writing on this show. Oh and Aydindril is pronounced A-din-drill not I-din-dril.

well she hadn't exactly explained that she can't control it when in as she put it ecstacy. and the prophecy about being betrayed by the one in white is in the first book, shota does tell them that, and in the book richard tries to keep kahlan from killing herself, and then she does finally tell him what she is.

 

[zanos]

No it is from the fourth book. In book one Shota says that Kahlan will your her power against Richard or something to that effect. I love how hollywood likes to screw with even the tiniest thing. Raimi and co. make me sick.

 

[TheVileOne]

God Zanos give it a rest. A few weeks ago you were digging the show, now you can't stand it. Whatever. You hate all adaptations. I knew it was weird when you liked the show the show that changed stuff from the books.

Go watch some Transformers: Animated.

Denna from the Mord-Sith has finally been incorporated into the series. They translated some of her appearance from the first book, but it occurs in a different place, and yeah a lot of Denna's storyline has been changed. But Denna looked exactly how she was described in the book, and the powers and rules of the Mord-Sith were as they should be. They did a good job in visualizing the Mord-Sith and the agiel as well as the agiels powers.

 

[BlackLantern]

I winced when she told Richard what exactly the Agiel could do, put it right in his chest and made him passed out...

 

[Bathead]

Well, personally, I like the show. I MAY have read the first book (Wizard's First Rule, correct?), but it was so long ago (at least twenty years) I can't really be sure, so I am judging it solely on its merits as a fantasy TV show in its own right, and not as an adaptation. I think it's been well done, and I curse myself when I've missed an episode. (Darn me!) Have they started back with new episodes yet?

 

[TheVileOne]

Yes. Last night was the first episode back in a few weeks. They went on hiatus after seven episodes. So looks like we get some new episodes for a little while now.

Kahlan's hair looks a lot darker now. At first it seemed like a dark red auburn. Now it seems almost like a black midnight color.

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I'm also happy that Denna survived at the end. I like the idea that we can see her again, and have more tortured psycho goodness with Richard.

In the books, she actually falls in love with Richard and lets him kill her in order for him to escape. The torture actually went much further for months and Denna basically did break him. However after the part where Richard asks to be tortured by Constance and Richard says why, Denna starts being nicer to him and makes love with him without using her agiel. There was also a whole thing about Richard being collared which signifies him as a slave of the Mord-Sith.

 

[zanos]

God Zanos give it a rest. A few weeks ago you were digging the show, now you can't stand it. Whatever. You hate all adaptations. I knew it was weird when you liked the show the show that changed stuff from the books.

Well gee I wonder why that is. Could it be that the show has de-evolved into endless cliches and cheesy dialogue and stories since the first 2 eps? This seems to be a growing trend with adaptations. If you want to bury your head into the sand everytime you're presented with mediocrity that's fine with me but why expect others to?

Go watch some Transformers: Animated.

Denna from the Mord-Sith has finally been incorporated into the series. The translated some of her appearance from the first book, but it occurs in a different place, and yeah a lot of Denna's storyline has been changed. But Denna looked exactly how she was described in the book, and the powers and rules of the Mord-Sith were as they should be. They did a good job in visualizing the Mord-Sith and the agiel as well as the agiels powers.

Ok she's been incorporated but for what purpose and how did she know exactly where to find him in the middle of nowhere? Why would Rahl want him broken for the sole purpose of him pledging his allegiance to him? This is left completely unanswered in the ep and I can imagine why. There is one silly contrivance one after anotherl but this is probably the biggest one. The other one was Kahlan walking in to be captured and another was not using her powers on Denna so Richard can have the glory. It's just goes on and on and never stops. The believability factor of this show is utter s.h.i.t!

Btw why is Kahlan seeking out another confessor? Is that one of their job descriptions, to help Seekers? Seeing as there hasn't been one for a thousand years why does it all of sudden become their calling without question? Shouldn't they get back to their job of settling petty squabbles among villagers? That's why they've been entrusted with their great powers dammnit! Not helping the seeker.

P.S. For you book readers wouldn't it be funny if tv Richard hung Denna's agiel around his neck like he does in the book? Tv Kahlan should get one as well. hahahahahahaha

 

[GhostPoet]

wow, the Mord-Sith are fantastic...hope we see more of them. I'm glad the truth about why Richard can't be with her is finally out there...but man, to hear it from the Mord-Sith. ouch.

 

[Hypestyle]

i see this every now and then.. this is a new, currently ongoing series? for how long has this been going on? how many episodes overall?

 

[batgirl2119]

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[batgirl2119]

stupid triple post

 

[batgirl2119]

yeah i don't know how they're going to get the story to flow along now, or why they even broke it up like that. and we dont actually know that the reason denna told richard about why lord rahl wants him trained is really the reason, its just the one she comes up w/ to get to him. at least that was my impression.
and it looks like the angry mobs are picking up their torches and pitchforks and headin to the offices of abc and terry is right behind em, to try to get things set right. although what they're going to do, since the man signed a contract w/o reading the fine print i guess (just saw the zeros after the $), but we'll see.
oh and hypestyle try legendoftheseeker.com it'll give you an overview of all the eps and times when its on in your area.

 

[TheVileOne]

Zanos,

Denna said why they wanted Richard to bow down to Rahl. The public know the Seeker exists, and many believe in his cause. Rahl is afraid that killing the Seeker might make him a martyr according to Denna.

Also, they are in enemy Dharan territory. Mord-Sith have powerful magic and could track them.

In the books they are always under threat of being discovered by Dhara. Richard is captured much the same way. Also there is a specific reason Rahl wanted him alive.


Hypestyle:

The show premiered in early November. It just aired the 8th episode. The season is supposed to be 22 episodes, and it's based on the first book in THE SWORD OF TRUTH SERIES, Legend of The Seeker. Terry Goodkind wrote I think like 12 books in this series. They've changed and made many events different, though many of the characters and some of the plot devices are the same.

The Boxes of Orden are an important plot point, but they are introduced much later.

 

[Ahura Mazda]

The season is supposed to be 22 episodes, and it's based on the first book in THE SWORD OF TRUTH SERIES, Legend of The Seeker. Terry Goodkind wrote I think like 12 books in this series. They've changed and made many events different, though many of the characters and some of the plot devices are the same.

The Boxes of Orden are an important plot point, but they are introduced much later.

The first Book was Wizard's First Rule not Legend of the Seeker.

The series ends with Confessor.

 

[TheVileOne]

My mistake, you are right.

 

[zanos]

Zanos,

Denna said why they wanted Richard to bow down to Rahl. The public know the Seeker exists, and many believe in his cause. Rahl is afraid that killing the Seeker might make him a martyr according to Denna.

Also, they are in enemy Dharan territory. Mord-Sith have powerful magic and could track them.

In the books they are always under threat of being discovered by Dhara. Richard is captured much the same way. Also there is a specific reason Rahl wanted him alive.

How can someone become a martyr when ppl have no idea who he is or what he looks like? He leads a legion of two ppl. Rahl can just quietly kill him and no one would be any the wiser or he could find someone to pretend to be the seeker to accomplish the theory you conjured up. Shouldn't he be more worried about the prophecy rather than the members of the Seeker fan club? You kill Richard you kill the prophecy, end of story.

 

[haephestus]

I'm enjoying this series, although I haven't been able to *view* the latest episode as yet.

I generally think each episode has been an improvement over the one before it, although the last couple I've seen (Identity and Elixir - I think) weren't quite as good (but I read that at least one of them was screened out of order and should have come earlier).

I'm looking forward to the rest of the season. I think the production team has really matured since the days of Hercules and Xena (even though Xena remains my all-time favourite TV show) and I do like the more mature tone they're trying to reach with Seeker (but I must admit that at times the tone is quite inconsistent as Zedd's character seems like he belongs on a show like Hercules (quite cheesy/tongue-in-cheek) but Richard is almost too far the other way and trying to be ultra-serious and "respectable")).

Cheers.

 

[TheVileOne]

How can someone become a martyr when ppl have no idea who he is or what he looks like? He leads a legion of two ppl. Rahl can just quietly kill him and no one would be any the wiser or he could find someone to pretend to be the seeker to accomplish the theory you conjured up. Shouldn't he be more worried about the prophecy rather than the members of the Seeker fan club? You kill Richard you kill the prophecy, end of story.

Richard and his group have been travelling the lands and liberating people being oppressed by Dharan tyranny. They've liberated villages as well as helped people who have been friendly to them and helped them in return.

Rahl is worried about people rising up against him and JOINING with Richard or continuing to rise up against him and preventing him from reaching his goals. If he simply killed Richard, now that people know that the Seeker is alive and trying to liberate them from Rahl, his memory could still continue to inspire people to rebel against Rahl even more.

 

[zanos]

Richard and his group have been travelling the lands and liberating people being oppressed by Dharan tyranny. They've liberated villages as well as helped people who have been friendly to them and helped them in return.

Libertated villages? The only village where ppl might know him as the seeker is Brennidon and everyone there is no doubt dead now as a result of what he did. The only thing he's done is bring rape, torture and death upon those ppl. I'm sure their memory will inspire other villages to support the seeker. lol. That is in the highly unlikelyhood they even know he exists.

Rahl is worried about people rising up against him and JOINING with Richard or continuing to rise up against him and preventing him from reaching his goals. If he simply killed Richard, now that people know that the Seeker is alive and trying to liberate them from Rahl, his memory could still continue to inspire people to rebel against Rahl even more.

Worried? Hardly. What evidence do you have to indicate that he is somehow worried like you say? I somehow think preserving his life and his empire takes and averting the prophecy takes precendence over your longshot theory.

 

[batgirl2119]

Libertated villages? The only village where ppl might know him as the seeker is Brennidon and everyone there is no doubt dead now as a result of what he did. The only thing he's done is bring rape, torture and death upon those ppl. I'm sure their memory will inspire other villages to support the seeker. lol. That is in the highly unlikelyhood they even know he exists.



Worried? Hardly. What evidence do you have to indicate that he is somehow worried like you say? I somehow think preserving his life and his empire takes and averting the prophecy takes precendence over your longshot theory.

you're thinking like the books not the show. in the show denna told richard what rahl wanted, although i still think it was just her way to get to richard but we shall see. you have to take the knowledge of the books and watching the show and some what seperate them b/c they obviously are not in sync.

 

[TheVileOne]

I doubt Zanos has even read the books.

 

[zanos]

you're thinking like the books not the show. in the show denna told richard what rahl wanted, although i still think it was just her way to get to richard but we shall see. you have to take the knowledge of the books and watching the show and some what seperate them b/c they obviously are not in sync.

Um, no.. I never made any such comparison. I simply asked for a logical explaination for which I still have not gotten.