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[Gamma Ra]

I think the movie was fun and exiting but after watching the extended version of the Ross - Blonsky conversation about Banner being property of the US government, I think Marvel Studios goofed in the depth department.

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[DarknessOfDeath]

I think most of the bruce and betty scenes should have been left in... and hey, who knows what the other 30 mins consist of that didn't make it to the dvd...

When Betty walks into the bedroom and as she and Lenord move towards each other, it was the moment when she pulls him to her and starts crying on his shoulder that got to me. ... its sad..

 

[FrostBite]

I think most of these should have been left in, especially the awesome Alternate Opening...

What it comes down to was Marvel fearing too much of a slow-paced film after the last one was criticized so harshly by the general audience when it took a chance.

Ironically Marvel cutting out all of the character pieces left us with Bruce in silence much of the time. While I love the lonely man theme, after an exciting first act it seems pretty disheartening to see him turn almost into a mute for the entire second section of the movie. It gives the movie the dragging feeling they wanted to avoid in the first place, whereas if we saw more of Bruce and his interaction with Betty / Samson I do believe the movie could become more engrossing.

Personally I think The Incredible Hulk is a great film, I already enjoy it more than Iron Man (so taboo!) -- sadly if the scenes were left in it would be a superb film. (To me.)

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Got to agree with everyone in here, as soon as i watched the majority of the deleted scene's, I asked myself why they didnt leave them in. The opening and ALL of the extra's scene's at Betty's house were superb IMO, and Marvel dropped the ball by cutting them.

I posted this in another thread, it sums up my feelings on the deleted scene's in more depth:
I thought they were superb to be completely honest, and I was immediatly fuming that they were cut once I saw them. The dinner at Betty's house was simply sublime, especially when Bruce break's down because he hasnt been able to have a light conversation with friend's for 5 years. That scene would have immediatly garnered more sympathy and emotion for the character that was missing from the final cut IMO.

I also thought the talk with Samson was very good, it explains in an understandable way why he called the army, but at the same time it actually makes you feel for Samson as a character, and doesnt just make him the side-note he was reduced to in the finished product.

I also even thought the plant scene at Betty's house should have stayed, as it showed that Betty's love for Bruce had been undying all of these years, and I felt the scene were Betty break's down while thanking Samson for being so civil about the situation would have been powerful also.

The opening were Bruce tries to commit suicide should have stayed as well, that would have been a superb introductery scene.

It all proves that Norton was right and Marvel were wrong in the end, which I suspected from the start. Marvel are making a lot of mistakes at the moment and its pissing me off.


Its a shame, we ended up with an above average movie, when we could so easily have had a great one. Let's hope the Norton Cut comes out sooner rather than later.

 

[cronosred]

Got to agree with everyone in here, as soon as i watched the majority of the deleted scene's, I asked myself why they didnt leave them in. The opening and ALL of the extra's scene's at Betty's house were superb IMO, and Marvel dropped the ball by cutting them.

I posted this in another thread, it sums up my feelings on the deleted scene's in more depth:
I thought they were superb to be completely honest, and I was immediatly fuming that they were cut once I saw them. The dinner at Betty's house was simply sublime, especially when Bruce break's down because he hasnt been able to have a light conversation with friend's for 5 years. That scene would have immediatly garnered more sympathy and emotion for the character that was missing from the final cut IMO.

I also thought the talk with Samson was very good, it explains in an understandable way why he called the army, but at the same time it actually makes you feel for Samson as a character, and doesnt just make him the side-note he was reduced to in the finished product.

I also even thought the plant scene at Betty's house should have stayed, as it showed that Betty's love for Bruce had been undying all of these years, and I felt the scene were Betty break's down while thanking Samson for being so civil about the situation would have been powerful also.

The opening were Bruce tries to commit suicide should have stayed as well, that would have been a superb introductery scene.

It all proves that Norton was right and Marvel were wrong in the end, which I suspected from the start. Marvel are making a lot of mistakes at the moment and its pissing me off.


Its a shame, we ended up with an above average movie, when we could so easily have had a great one. Let's hope the Norton Cut comes out sooner rather than later.

That pretty much sums up my feeling's as well. I really hope Marvel releases an extended edition.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

^They need to, but I have a feeling we wont be getting until The Avengers movie.

 

[lucas8771]

Is this movie out on DVD yet? Why can I not find the opening Arctic scene online anywhere? Can someone please post it???
Thanks

 

[Golgo-13]

Yeah, it came out today. And the alternate opening is now on Youtube.

 

[KINGT'CHALLA]

does anyone have the trailer of the up and coming marvel animated tv shows that's from the incredible hulk dvd.

 

[smoothbody]

imo,i felt a little empty with the alternate open!! i would of liked to see bruce actually try to put the gun to his head,then turn..

i'm disapointed in the rest of the deleted scenes because there is no more hulk.i want more hulk!!!

i'm going to add the deleted scenes into the movie then rewatch the dvd with all the scenes included.this should be fun!!

 

[DarknessOfDeath]

That pretty much sums up my feeling's as well. I really hope Marvel releases an extended edition.

Oh I agree completely. AVEITWITHJAMON, you pretty much summed up my feelings as well. Lets hope an extended edition gets released.

 

[Saint]

Many of the scenes were no loss. However, a couple of them had interesting conversations and would have been nice to see. The alternate opening definitely should have been used.

 

[co2]

Many of the scenes were no loss. However, a couple of them had interesting conversations and would have been nice to see. The alternate opening definitely should have been used.

I agree with this. I think cutting almost all of that stuff was wise on Marvel's part. The only scene I really liked was the fireside talk between Bruce and Leonard. I do think the alternate opening scene was a great idea, as it would have payed off more when Bruce dives out of the helicopter at the end...but I don't think they did it right. If I hadn't read about it online, I wouldn't have known what he was doing by pulling out a gun and pointing it at the ground.

I was hoping the deleted scenes would show that there was more intended substance to this film, but the deleted scenes really wouldn't have added anything and the dialogue in most of those scenes was clunky....sorry Edward.

 

[goh78]

Opened a thread on this, apparently that was a bad idea (locked). Anyway:

 

[YJ1]

Unlike the Iron Man DVD deleted scenes, there really are some critical cuts that simply should not have been made. I understand pacing issues and the fear that Incredible Hulk would be bogged down in exposition and be too much like the 2003 version but they really did sacrifice a lot of depth. The theatrical release works quite well but it could’ve been a better all around film had just a few of these scenes been included. I now see why all those Ed Norton being frustrated by the final cut rumors surfaced. It forced me to re-watch the deleted scenes to critique their final decisions.

Pizza Delivery – GOOD CUT. Correcting the student’s formula on the blackboard was cute but the snotty co-eds was flat out lame. Also, why would Bruce want to be seen in any capacity on the campus where he worked and where Betty still works? That’s the first place the military would be looking for him.

Computer Lab – GOOD CUT. Brief scene but completely useless and filled with hippie dialogue. Not funny or useful at all.

Bruce and Stanley The Pizza Owner– MIXED. Slows thing up a bit but it’s such a brief scene. I might keep it because it’s great to hear Bruce say it was dumb of him to expect to find anything at all on campus. “Stupid to risk it for hopes of finding scraps.”

Bruce meets Doc Sampson – GOOD CUT. I tend to agree with most of the Sampson cuts. I can see the true dilemma filmmakers must have had. Some of the Sampson stuff really works but you need ALL of it to be included to make sense. Pull away some things and it wouldn't work, everything seems linked.

Bruce and Betty Talk – BAD CUT. The first scene that truly needed to stay. About his time on the run and how he hooked up with Mr. Blue. Helpful exposition and makes the plot much more intelligent. (“How did they find me in Brazil? Could it have been Sterns?”) Adds so much more depth of character!

Dinner With Doc & Betty – MIXED. Again, slow and not needed to further the plot but it makes Betty’s relationship with Doc understandable and truly humanizes Bruce’s plight and loneliness that he has endured. Breaking down over the simple normalcy of dinner conversation hits home with the viewer.

Orchid Flower – MIXED. As with the dinner, not at all needed to advance the story but Betty using the flower analogy to inspire Bruce to keep on fighting ads intelligence and heart to Betty’s character. It also shows how deeply they love each other because it shows Bruce risked all by sending it to her and she thought enough of it to fight to keep it alive.

Betty & Doc Sampson – GOOD CUT. Brief scene where Betty lets it out and hugs Doc but saving a few seconds here wasn’t a bad idea.

Bruce & Doc Morning Talk – MIXED. Stuff we all saw in the trailer. Makes Doc more complex and adds to the complicated three way relationship. It’s very hard to fit this wonderful scene in without adding all the Doc Sampson scenes above. VERY intelligent scene. One important fact is that Betty states that she left the lights on in the car the night before and the battery is dead. It explains why they had to split up and meet later on campus.

Bruce’s Guilt – HORRIBLE CUT. A true shame they did not keep this in tact. Very emotional and very poignant. “I just keep asking myself what it was we were trying to accomplish that was worth all this?” It shows the true intellect and soul of Bruce Banner.

Nature’s Mystery – HORRIBLE CUT. Another pure shame and probably the worst choice to cut of all. This one single scene perfectly fleshes out Thunderbolt Ross and elevates him to a three dimensional character. Ross pines about philosophy and how rare it is that nature reveals a new power. A power that changes everything. Discovering and harnessing fire, splitting the atom and now this. Why he feels he needs to do whatever is necessary to control this new power. It also gives his #2 in command (female officer) needed lines and depth. It makes Blonsky’s crack later mean more when he KO’s her. HURT’S PERFORMANCE IS MASTERFUL, OSCAR LEVEL GOOD. “How many times does it happen? The universe reveals a secret, people recoil in fear and awe. And then comes the person who stops trembling… to step forward and face the flame. He seizes the burning stick and says, ‘This will I master and use.’ Civilization’s history is written by those men.” This amazing scene demonstrates his belief that he’s doing this for the greater good and for his country.

Motel Room Non Sex post Talk- BAD CUT. Should have definitely stayed. Betty shows physical scar from the first Hulk-out but talks of her emotional scars. Deepens their love.

Pawn Shop – GOOD CUT. We really don’t need to see Bruce get the actual money.

On The Hulk Hunt – HORRIBLE CUT. 100% should have stayed. A “stand down” order is in place, they don’t want to trigger the Hulk. It shows that the military aren’t a bunch of ignorant dumb asses “failing to learn from our mistakes.” It also shows that Ross is using Blonsky but tolerates him because “we need a dog in the hunt who won’t run away from the bear. If we play this right, I never have to let him off the leash.” Also shows Blonsky’s growing instability and disgust with Ross.

Ross & Sharr – HORRIBLE CUT. A much more complex post capture scene. Betty lays in to poppa better. Extremely intelligent. Agent asks Ross why they aren’t sedating Banner. Ross asks if she wants to be the one to stick him with a needle. Ross then shows his calculating nature by instructing that Betty be put on the copter and kept close. This will ensure Banner will stay calm, to protect Betty. “She’s our best insurance.” Also states why his #2 takes charge of Sterns and what’s to be done with him. MUCH NEEDED.

Doc Calls Betty – GOOD CUT. Not really needed at the end of the film. Ties up loose ends by telling Doc that she’s OK. Doc confesses to ratting out Bruce. Betty forgives him but isn’t going back to him.

 

[Sarg92]

Bruce’s Guilt – HORRIBLE CUT. A true shame they did not keep this in tact. Very emotional and very poignant. “I just keep asking myself what it was we were trying to accomplish that was worth all this?” It shows the true intellect and soul of Bruce Banner.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=5dQ686bcAzU

Very true. Shouldn't have been cut, I mean it is only like an extra minute, the scene shows the intellect of Bruce and his guilt. Superb writing and delivery by Norton too.

A bit off topic but people say Norton's performance was only really average, well if the Banner scenes like this weren't cut then I am sure people would have had different opinions. Marvel should release an extended cut cos it will sell big time or someone puts the deleted scenes into the film themselves using some software.

 

[Saint]

Unlike the Iron Man DVD deleted scenes, there really are some critical cuts that simply should not have been made. I understand pacing issues and the fear that Incredible Hulk would be bogged down in exposition and be too much like the 2003 version but they really did sacrifice a lot of depth. The theatrical release works quite well but it could’ve been a better all around film had just a few of these scenes been included. I now see why all those Ed Norton being frustrated by the final cut rumors surfaced. It forced me to re-watch the deleted scenes to critique their final decisions.

Pizza Delivery – GOOD CUT. Correcting the student’s formula on the blackboard was cute but the snotty co-eds was flat out lame. Also, why would Bruce want to be seen in any capacity on the campus where he worked and where Betty still works? That’s the first place the military would be looking for him.

Computer Lab – GOOD CUT. Brief scene but completely useless and filled with hippie dialogue. Not funny or useful at all.

Bruce and Stanley The Pizza Owner– MIXED. Slows thing up a bit but it’s such a brief scene. I might keep it because it’s great to hear Bruce say it was dumb of him to expect to find anything at all on campus. “Stupid to risk it for hopes of finding scraps.”

Bruce meets Doc Sampson – GOOD CUT. I tend to agree with most of the Sampson cuts. I can see the true dilemma filmmakers must have had. Some of the Sampson stuff really works but you need ALL of it to be included to make sense. Pull away some things and it wouldn't work, everything seems linked.

Bruce and Betty Talk – BAD CUT. The first scene that truly needed to stay. About his time on the run and how he hooked up with Mr. Blue. Helpful exposition and makes the plot much more intelligent. (“How did they find me in Brazil? Could it have been Sterns?”) Adds so much more depth of character!

Dinner With Doc & Betty – MIXED. Again, slow and not needed to further the plot but it makes Betty’s relationship with Doc understandable and truly humanizes Bruce’s plight and loneliness that he has endured. Breaking down over the simple normalcy of dinner conversation hits home with the viewer.

Orchid Flower – MIXED. As with the dinner, not at all needed to advance the story but Betty using the flower analogy to inspire Bruce to keep on fighting ads intelligence and heart to Betty’s character. It also shows how deeply they love each other because it shows Bruce risked all by sending it to her and she thought enough of it to fight to keep it alive.

Betty & Doc Sampson – GOOD CUT. Brief scene where Betty lets it out and hugs Doc but saving a few seconds here wasn’t a bad idea.

Bruce & Doc Morning Talk – MIXED. Stuff we all saw in the trailer. Makes Doc more complex and adds to the complicated three way relationship. It’s very hard to fit this wonderful scene in without adding all the Doc Sampson scenes above. VERY intelligent scene. One important fact is that Betty states that she left the lights on in the car the night before and the battery is dead. It explains why they had to split up and meet later on campus.

Bruce’s Guilt – HORRIBLE CUT. A true shame they did not keep this in tact. Very emotional and very poignant. “I just keep asking myself what it was we were trying to accomplish that was worth all this?” It shows the true intellect and soul of Bruce Banner.

Nature’s Mystery – HORRIBLE CUT. Another pure shame and probably the worst choice to cut of all. This one single scene perfectly fleshes out Thunderbolt Ross and elevates him to a three dimensional character. Ross pines about philosophy and how rare it is that nature reveals a new power. A power that changes everything. Discovering and harnessing fire, splitting the atom and now this. Why he feels he needs to do whatever is necessary to control this new power. It also gives his #2 in command (female officer) needed lines and depth. It makes Blonsky’s crack later mean more when he KO’s her. HURT’S PERFORMANCE IS MASTERFUL, OSCAR LEVEL GOOD. “How many times does it happen? The universe reveals a secret, people recoil in fear and awe. And then comes the person who stops trembling… to step forward and face the flame. He seizes the burning stick and says, ‘This will I master and use.’ Civilization’s history is written by those men.” This amazing scene demonstrates his belief that he’s doing this for the greater good and for his country.

Motel Room Non Sex post Talk- BAD CUT. Should have definitely stayed. Betty shows physical scar from the first Hulk-out but talks of her emotional scars. Deepens their love.

Pawn Shop – GOOD CUT. We really don’t need to see Bruce get the actual money.

On The Hulk Hunt – HORRIBLE CUT. 100% should have stayed. A “stand down” order is in place, they don’t want to trigger the Hulk. It shows that the military aren’t a bunch of ignorant dumb asses “failing to learn from our mistakes.” It also shows that Ross is using Blonsky but tolerates him because “we need a dog in the hunt who won’t run away from the bear. If we play this right, I never have to let him off the leash.” Also shows Blonsky’s growing instability and disgust with Ross.

Ross & Sharr – HORRIBLE CUT. A much more complex post capture scene. Betty lays in to poppa better. Extremely intelligent. Agent asks Ross why they aren’t sedating Banner. Ross asks if she wants to be the one to stick him with a needle. Ross then shows his calculating nature by instructing that Betty be put on the copter and kept close. This will ensure Banner will stay calm, to protect Betty. “She’s our best insurance.” Also states why his #2 takes charge of Sterns and what’s to be done with him. MUCH NEEDED.

Doc Calls Betty – GOOD CUT. Not really needed at the end of the film. Ties up loose ends by telling Doc that she’s OK. Doc confesses to ratting out Bruce. Betty forgives him but isn’t going back to him.

I agree almost scene for scene. I especially agree about Ross' talk about the new power, and Bruce's guilt. There's no excuse for the removal of those scenes. I also think the extended Super Soldier scene should not have been cut down.

 

[TheVileOne]

My main problem with the Samson thing is that it was pointless. Because he's never even named as Samson in the movie. Unless you read about it earlier, you would not have known he is Doc Samson. That is because they cut so much of his footage out.

The other thing is, and I'm not sure if the deleted scenes would've fixed this, I didn't really care for Betty just dumping her boyfriend and going back to Bruce, and Bruce never really addresses the boyfriend with her at all. Too much left unstated and unsaid.

5 years ago people said they wanted more action more HULK SMASH, that's what they tried to give us. Didn't quite work out as well as hoped, but oh well.

 

[Gamma Ra]

My total feelings about the deleted scenes lean toward most of what AVEITWITHJAMON posted.

Maybe it's just my taste, but I think the scenes with Ross talking about the atom "man looking at God's backside" and Banner speaking of his own arrogance in tampering with the forces, that nature had taken millions of years to develop, would have added a great deal not only to the depth of the story, but also make the Banner - Ross dispute that much better.

 

[DarknessOfDeath]

Well...Im in favor of an extended edition.

 

[Doc Samson]

I just don't understand how they would do this with TIH, when IMO, Ironman felt 10x slower by comparison. Granted, they wanted the absolute opposite of Ang's Hulk, and IM has a charismatic lead character, but I can't see how any of this would've hurt the movie. IM barely had any action in it, and people accepted it. Just because it's the Hulk, for whatever reason, people seem to not like anything. They took all this out, and it still wasn't enough so, If there is another film, they need to forget about trying to please everybody, and make the film that needs to be made, equal parts action and drama

 

[TheVileOne]

Ed Norton didn't work on Iron Man .

 

[Matt]

I love the alternate opening and really wish they kept it. It reminds me so much of the Hulk relaunch a few years back, where after killing an entire village, Banner considers shooting himself. Great scene in the comics, would've made a great scene in the movie.

 

[Aldar]

The alternate opening should've been left in even though it's a win win situation with both openings. I also think that the scene "Nature's Mystery" should've been left in because it showed how fantastic an actor William Hurt was, and every single thing he said makes sense. Another scene that needed to stay was Bruce & Betty talking in the Motel right after they nearly had sex, that scene had quite a bit of emotion, and the last scene I think they should've kept would be Leonard calling Betty at the end of the movie, and confessing that he called the army to come get Bruce.

Most of the other scenes were comedic, and didn't really add anything, but certainly enjoyable.

 

[Seen]

Many of the scenes were no loss. However, a couple of them had interesting conversations and would have been nice to see. The alternate opening definitely should have been used.

Absolutely. I felt it was very powerful and it gets you into the character almost immediately. It's also fantastically visual, with the ice caps, mystic arctic skies and so forth. I really question why they cut this...because their main hero tries to kill himself? I think Marvel was too scared when it came to this film. They wanted to just put out an appealing, action-oriented product, and they did, but it really compromised the final product. Cuts like this only help reinforce Norton's stance on matters.