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Script Rundown- Bigtime Spoilers

What do you think of Ed Norton's script rundown?

  • It's gonna rock!

  • It'll suck bad!

  • Not sure yet...


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Detention board... lol



And thus, we've come full circle in this exchange, since you originally said "it isn't that hard" and I said "well, if it's not that hard, then why are so few?". I think we're on the same page. :up:

Well yes, but my point all along has been, that it shouldnt be that hard, i mean they have the best possible source material to draw from dont they.

It just depends on the talent involved. And i dont have a whole lot of confidence in the director or especially the original writer of TIH.
 
Well yes, but my point all along has been, that it shouldnt be that hard, i mean they have the best possible source material to draw from dont they.

It just depends on the talent involved. And i dont have a whole lot of confidence in the director or especially the original writer of TIH.

I don't know, do they? Isn't every comic book movie in the same boat - that the writers, directors and producers have "the best possible source material to draw from" yet still do not know what makes a bona fide good movie (that appeals to everyone in the same fashion as Spidey 2, BB or X2)?

As for your lack of confidence in the director... I think he's shown enough potential in his movies (with considerably smaller budgets) that I think we can give him a chance on TIH. But the "the original writer" has been out of the picture for some time now. I don't see why he would be a concern for you. We all know Norton has basically owned the script and written the screenplay, so any traces of that "original writer's script" are probably gone.

You know, UPS delivers packages even in this remote part of the world.

Yeah, I'm still not convinced that emi can't still have obtained a copy of the screenplay somehow. And just because his location says "Italy" doesn't mean he's actually in Italy. He could be being fraudulent about that also. I mean, how is it that one trusts a.) the fact that he's being honest/truthful about his location but b.) not the fact that he purports to have the screenplay? It doesn't make sense. You can't pick and choose what you're going to believe about someone and still be considered credible yourself when you do that. Now, I know EB works for Universal, but unless he's read the screenplay himself and can vouch with 100% certainty that those lines emi gave us aren't in the screenplay, then I see no reason not to still continue believing emi. Besides, why would emi make them up? It doesn't appear he was looking for a good laugh. On the contrary, he got very upset with us when we attacked his credibility and someone who's a legitimate fraud isn't that easily upset with such attacks.
 
I don't know, do they? Isn't every comic book movie in the same boat - that the writers, directors and producers have "the best possible source material to draw from" yet still do not know what makes a bona fide good movie (that appeals to everyone in the same fashion as Spidey 2, BB or X2)?

As for your lack of confidence in the director... I think he's shown enough potential in his movies (with considerably smaller budgets) that I think we can give him a chance on TIH. But the "the original writer" has been out of the picture for some time now. I don't see why he would be a concern for you. We all know Norton has basically owned the script and written the screenplay, so any traces of that "original writer's script" are probably gone.

As i have said before, EVERY CB movie should as good as those 3, but when you get people like Tim Story, Brett Ratner, Zak Penn, etc working on them, they are not going to be anything special and in some cases will be dreadful.

As for Zak Penn, much of his script is still in the movie, hence why i am still worried. And LL's best movie was average to me.
 
As i have said before, EVERY CB movie should as good as those 3, but when you get people like Tim Story, Brett Ratner, Zak Penn, etc working on them, they are not going to be anything special and in some cases will be dreadful.

As for Zak Penn, much of his script is still in the movie, hence why i am still worried. And LL's best movie was average to me.

Okay, fine... I'll stop trying to change your opinion. :trans:
 
the super soldier serum idea is lame. how much further will this movie drift from the storyline of the comic book?

let's see if they change abomination's powers. if i recall correctly he does not get stronger when he becomes angrier like the hulk does. he also regenerates slower than the hulk.
 
Could someone please tell me what the hell this is?

http://www.**************.com/images/news/hulk-2/Incredible%20Hulk%20-%20Edward%20Norton.jpg
 
And just found this quote in an article, "Edward Norton’s annotated 'Incredible Hulk’ script, for example, is currently available on a number of fan websites for the edification of prospective cinemagoers who don’t like surprises." Reviews are yeah, but the script itself doesn't seem to be.
 
IYeah, I'm still not convinced that emi can't still have obtained a copy of the screenplay somehow. And just because his location says "Italy" doesn't mean he's actually in Italy. He could be being fraudulent about that also. I mean, how is it that one trusts a.) the fact that he's being honest/truthful about his location but b.) not the fact that he purports to have the screenplay? It doesn't make sense. You can't pick and choose what you're going to believe about someone and still be considered credible yourself when you do that.
We live in the same city, you know it's called Rome, the one with the Colosseum and the St. Peter church (he lives and I work close to St. Peter).
He sent me just some days ago a script for a yet to be shot movie. He's a collector of movie scripts, and a comic-book reader. So I can vouch for him.
 
We live in the same city, you know it's called Rome, the one with the Colosseum and the St. Peter church (he lives and I work close to St. Peter).
He sent me just some days ago a script for a yet to be shot movie. He's a collector of movie scripts, and a comic-book reader. So I can vouch for him.

I think you might've misread me (i.e., no need for the sarcasm, telling me where Rome is). I was actually supporting both of you, saying that he's either completely fraudulent or completely telling the truth but that there was no reason to believe the former. It's all water under the bridge. Along with your post above, it seems people have since come around to believing him for other truths brought to bear in other threads. For the record, I never doubted him from the beginning.
 
Hmm, I actually just came in here with the intention of looking up the Hulk origin change from the script. I guess I shouldn't be too surprised it is such a hot topic.

Now I, personally, am fine with the inclusion of the super soldier formula in some way as it is often wrapped into many of Marvel's back stories now a days. However, I would really like to see the G bomb being the true origin, or at least what triggers it, even if the formula was tied in before it.

Not that my oppinion really is of anyone's concern.

However, what I found interesting in the script summaries we got was that Blonsky is only, well, turned into a "super" soldier from the formula, but it is not until he gets a does of the stuff worked out from Bruce's blood that he becomes the full Abomination.

Considering the "explanation" Ross uses to get Blonsky to agree, I wouldn't be surprised if Ross was bending the truth in that matter so as to justify his hunt of Banner to the right people. Considering these bits of info, it would make sense that there is more to Hulk's origin than is laid out in these summaries. Mind you, I do not see why the people who read the scripts would have not included the a bomb stuff.
It is not like it is really any kind of twist or real secret spoiler.


Any who, on a similar not, with the Ang Lee origin take, what really was salt in the wound to me, was the inclusion of a gamma bomb, just it had nothing to, directly, do with Hulk's creation. Every time I see it, I think 'You made a damn G bomb in the movie, so obviously it had nothing to do with the probability of it happening, but you don't use it for the actual damned use it had in the books??? WTF???'



Exactly...the super soldier formula is being used for everything...in fact it is overused. A creature as powerful as the Hulk can not be created in a test tube. The source of his power needs to be as cataclysmic as he himself is. The most powerful nuke ever created fills that bill. As you mentioned the very fact that they constantly presented gama explosions throughout the first film TPTB knew the strength of that visual. They were merely sqeamish about presenting Bruce Banner as a weapons developer, which is silly. The Hulk's 45 year run tells us that this isn't something that bothers the Hulk.

Back on the super soldier formula, based on the script rundown the version used on blonsky clearly worked with no apparent side effects, the only problem is his own hubris. There is no reason why there wouldn't be an army of super soldiers. Even if there were side effects...this is the military we're talking about.
 
Back on the super soldier formula, based on the script rundown the version used on blonsky clearly worked with no apparent side effects, the only problem is his own hubris. There is no reason why there wouldn't be an army of super soldiers. Even if there were side effects...this is the military we're talking about.

Good point, why wouldn't there be more super soldiers. More Captain America's? I'm guessing they are still testing the serum and have no idea if it works.&
Is this the first time anybody bothered to care about the origin of the Abomination?
 
I really hope this doesn't spill into future films making them a huge mess...the serum is hackneyed enough when it's all over the Ulimate Universe as it is without further reasons to detest its modern usage.
 
Good point, why wouldn't there be more super soldiers. More Captain America's? I'm guessing they are still testing the serum and have no idea if it works.

Cap's origin shows serum creator Dr. Erkstein (I think that was his name) killed by Nazis before he could share his secrets. Chances are the new Hulk movie will have an origin similar to Man-Thing's where a scientist, trying to recreate the formula, tests it on himself. Which would be nice for the 7 fans of the Man-Thing character, his movie didn't even come close to the comic roots!

I'd like to see the Hulk's G-bomb origin, if only to have the whole "Banner made a bomb/Banner became a bomb" personal conflict (and Rick!). The problem with this origin is that it was lifted from the cheesy 50's sci-fi flick "The Amazing Colossal Man." :wow:
 
Exactly...the super soldier formula is being used for everything...in fact it is overused. A creature as powerful as the Hulk can not be created in a test tube. The source of his power needs to be as cataclysmic as he himself is. The most powerful nuke ever created fills that bill. As you mentioned the very fact that they constantly presented gama explosions throughout the first film TPTB knew the strength of that visual. They were merely sqeamish about presenting Bruce Banner as a weapons developer, which is silly. The Hulk's 45 year run tells us that this isn't something that bothers the Hulk.

Back on the super soldier formula, based on the script rundown the version used on blonsky clearly worked with no apparent side effects, the only problem is his own hubris. There is no reason why there wouldn't be an army of super soldiers. Even if there were side effects...this is the military we're talking about.

Agreed 100%
 
Is Doc Samson the first super soldier?
 
considering the original basis of Hulk/banner was based on Jekyll and Hyde, I don't see the problem with that.
I thought Stan Lee said Frankenstein?
 
It was a mixture of the Frankenstein and J&H's respective mythologies.
 
I like the script so far, especially the links to Marvel continuity.


DOC SAMSON!!!!!!!
 
How so quickly people who have seen norton as the saviour turn on him

this film looks like it's everybit as set for re-writing its own history that ang lee's version was.

on top of that, this so called life long marvel fan is going to make an ultimate hulk film..

i bet you any money bruce is a veggie in it

:o
 
How so quickly people who have seen norton as the saviour turn on him

this film looks like it's everybit as set for re-writing its own history that ang lee's version was.

on top of that, this so called life long marvel fan is going to make an ultimate hulk film..

i bet you any money bruce is a veggie in it

:o

It's all so f***ing depressing, :csad:.
 
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