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[Sarg92]

Absolutely. I felt it was very powerful and it gets you into the character almost immediately. It's also fantastically visual, with the ice caps, mystic arctic skies and so forth. I really question why they cut this...because their main hero tries to kill himself? I think Marvel was too scared when it came to this film. They wanted to just put out an appealing, action-oriented product, and they did, but it really compromised the final product. Cuts like this only help reinforce Norton's stance on matters.

Marvel said the scene was too dark for kids so they cut it.

Now I understand that when in the first draft the arctic scene was Banner putting the gun in his mouth and pulling the trigger with Hulk spitting out the bullet. That is dark and could possibly scare children but what Marvel changed it to wasn't dark at all. Banner just held the gun out towards the ground and that is it! Kids probably wouldn't understand what he is attempting to do!

 

[Doc Samson]

Marvel said the scene was too dark for kids so they cut it.

Now I understand that when in the first draft the arctic scene was Banner putting the gun in his mouth and pulling the trigger with Hulk spitting out the bullet. That is dark and could possibly scare children but what Marvel changed it to wasn't dark at all. Banner just held the gun out towards the ground and that is it! Kids probably wouldn't understand what he is attempting to do!

My whole problem with that, is that the exact same children will play the videogame, where Marvel let them have the arctic scene as it was originally conceived. We're talking good graphics here too, this ain't Atari 2600.

Now granted, it is a videogame, but if they're gonna act like Grand Theft Auto is so damaging, then the Hulk should have the same effect, using that logic. Personally, I think people don't give kids enough credit, I was 4 years old when I first saw Commando. And if that movie can't make you grow up to kill somebody, nothing will

 

[Gamma Ra]

I just don't understand how they would do this with TIH, when IMO, Ironman felt 10x slower by comparison. Granted, they wanted the absolute opposite of Ang's Hulk, and IM has a charismatic lead character, but I can't see how any of this would've hurt the movie. IM barely had any action in it, and people accepted it. Just because it's the Hulk, for whatever reason, people seem to not like anything. They took all this out, and it still wasn't enough so, If there is another film, they need to forget about trying to please everybody, and make the film that needs to be made, equal parts action and drama

I agree.

I think Marvel was overly concerned about the wrong things. The problem most people had with Hulk '03 was the color and design. Fans couldn't get past the Shrek comparisons. The only other complaint that I've heard was that the film seemed dreary. But to feel that good key character development should be compromised for a supposed quicker paste, was wrong.

They should have kept in the whole 'stealing fire from the gods' thus cursing Banner by unleashing an unbelievable power from within him, with a mind of it's own, that he can't control. I think that would have grounded the character even more than trying to explain the mechanics of the transformation, the way the '03 Hulk did.

 

[Gamma Ra]

My main problem with the Samson thing is that it was pointless. Because he's never even named as Samson in the movie. Unless you read about it earlier, you would not have known he is Doc Samson. That is because they cut so much of his footage out.

The other thing is, and I'm not sure if the deleted scenes would've fixed this, I didn't really care for Betty just dumping her boyfriend and going back to Bruce, and Bruce never really addresses the boyfriend with her at all. Too much left unstated and unsaid.

5 years ago people said they wanted more action more HULK SMASH, that's what they tried to give us. Didn't quite work out as well as hoped, but oh well.

True, so much of the Samson scenes were cut out that it made his roll in the theatrical release seem pointless. In the deleted scenes Samson's says many things that give away his insecurities toward Bruce. He introduced himself as Leonard Samson to Bruce, after Betty got him out of the rain. The symbolism of the orchid scene was mint, and Samson's comment as he killed the moment aid it all. Samson stating to Banner, to take no offence but he wished he was dead as to not interfere with his and Betty's relationship, that gives credence to him calling Ross.

All of those scenes when played out, gives the scene with Betty telling Leonard that she's not coming home tangibility. All of Samson's fears came to life, setting him up to be the arrogant Doc Samson who wishes to be better than the Hulk. The guy that would study, then experiment with gamma radiation on himself in order to get the girl, much like his first comic book appearance.

These were great cerebral moments that hit home, which had more to them than many of the other Comic Book movies had this or any other year.

By the way Betty was not with Bruce.

What a waste.

 

[Doc Samson]

True, so much of the Samson scenes were cut out that it made his roll in the theatrical release seem pointless. In the deleted scenes Samson's says many things that give away his insecurities toward Bruce. He introduced himself as Leonard Samson to Bruce, after Betty got him out of the rain. He stated to Banner, to take no offence but he wished he was dead as to not interfere with his and Betty's relationship, that gives credence to him calling Ross. The symbolism of the orchid scene was fantastic and Samson's comment as he killed the moment aid it all.

All of those scenes when played out, gives the scene with Betty telling Leonard that she's not coming home tangibility. All of Samson's fears came to life.

These were great cerebral moments that hit home, which had more to them than many of the other Comic Book movies had this or any other year.

By the way Betty was not with Bruce.

What a waste.

I agree, but the one issue I had all along was, if he does indeed become "Doc" Samson in a sequel, how could they possibly convey that with Ty Burrell, without it looking completely weird? I don't care what anyone says about the Hulk, the worst effect in the whole movie were the fake muscles they put on Tim Roth

 

[Gamma Ra]

I agree, but the one issue I had all along was, if he does indeed become "Doc" Samson in a sequel, how could they possibly convey that with Ty Burrell, without it looking completely weird? I don't care what anyone says about the Hulk, the worst effect in the whole movie were the fake muscles they put on Tim Roth

I'm not sure how they would pull that off either, but the Juggernaut muscle suit doesn't work for me. But 4 or 5 years down the line who knows what they'll be able to do.

 

[Obi-Ron]

True, so much of the Samson scenes were cut out that it made his roll in the theatrical release seem pointless. In the deleted scenes Samson's says many things that give away his insecurities toward Bruce. He introduced himself as Leonard Samson to Bruce, after Betty got him out of the rain. The symbolism of the orchid scene was mint, and Samson's comment as he killed the moment aid it all. Samson stating to Banner, to take no offence but he wished he was dead as to not interfere with his and Betty's relationship, that gives credence to him calling Ross.

All of those scenes when played out, gives the scene with Betty telling Leonard that she's not coming home tangibility. All of Samson's fears came to life, setting him up to be the arrogant Doc Samson who wishes to be better than the Hulk. The guy that would study, then experiment with gamma radiation on himself in order to get the girl, much like his first comic book appearance.

These were great cerebral moments that hit home, which had more to them than many of the other Comic Book movies had this or any other year.

By the way Betty was not with Bruce.

What a waste.

Ty Burrell did a great job as Leonard, it's a shame so much of it was cut. They were definitely setting him up to have a bigger role, either as Bruce's rival or his psychiatrist (or both) in later films.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Oh I agree completely. AVEITWITHJAMON, you pretty much summed up my feelings as well. Lets hope an extended edition gets released.

My total feelings about the deleted scenes lean toward most of what AVEITWITHJAMON posted.

Maybe it's just my taste, but I think the scenes with Ross talking about the atom "man looking at God's backside" and Banner speaking of his own arrogance in tampering with the forces, that nature had taken millions of years to develop, would have added a great deal not only to the depth of the story, but also make the Banner - Ross dispute that much better.

Agreed with both of you guys (and thanks for agreeing with me ), all of the Betty and Samson scene's would have added, not only so much more depth, but more emotion, which in turn would have lead towards us caring more about the characters. Marvel should release the extended within the next year IMO.

Absolutely. I felt it was very powerful and it gets you into the character almost immediately. It's also fantastically visual, with the ice caps, mystic arctic skies and so forth. I really question why they cut this...because their main hero tries to kill himself? I think Marvel was too scared when it came to this film. They wanted to just put out an appealing, action-oriented product, and they did, but it really compromised the final product. Cuts like this only help reinforce Norton's stance on matters.

Agreed, this scene would have been pivotal had it been left in the movie, not only in the final battle, were it would have been shown The Hulk wouldnt let Bruce die already, but it also would have shown the desperation of the character, and that running was literally the LAST resort as he couldnt kill himself.

 

[DarknessOfDeath]

Even with or without the deleted scenes, I still love the movie for what it is. Its awsome.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I LIKE it, not love it, and thats the problem, for me, they didnt better what had come before.

 

[Aldar]

Honestly, my favorite deleted scene besides the alternate opening is still "Nature's Mystery" which I thought Hurt delivered perfectly. What do you all think of that particular scene.

 

[Gamma Ra]

Even with or without the deleted scenes, I still love the movie for what it is. Its awsome.

I agree, I still love this movie a lot.

 

[Gamma Ra]

Honestly, my favorite deleted scene besides the alternate opening is still "Nature's Mystery" which I thought Hurt delivered perfectly. What do you all think of that particular scene.

I thought that scene fleshed out Ross' character. I gives reason to his madness. In fact all of Ross' cut scenes were bad cuts. I thought he and Greller had chemistry.

Many people were complaining that he seemed one-dimensional, although I didn't, but all of his scenes would have helped to clear that up. He's a professional military man who sees the big picture at the expense of his own character flaws. The fact that he could tell that Major Sparr was visibly shaken by the sight of the Hulk, and him showing he had enough compassion to realize it and give her the chance to get out if she wanted.

Another scene that was a bad cut was the scene where he tells Banner if he took the Hulk from him, he'd put him in a hole. This was another great moment. The way Betty walks right past him, his reaction was pure genius.

 

[dcHulk]

I agree with all these comments. It would have been better for Marvel to have kept at least 10 min worth of stuff they left on the floor. Ross' conversations, Bruce/Betty motel room, Blonsky's stand down orders all should have been included; and it wouldn't have added that much time. Looks like Marvel just decided to use a hachet instead of a scapel (Obama rhetoric, of course). But I think it would have made the story much stronger.

It's interesting that after I watched the deleted scenes, it changes how I view the theatrical version. For instance, after they capture Bruce at Sterns' lab, and Betty brushes past Ross, the whole scene is instantaneously transported back to the helicopter which is away from the research building.

 

[DarknessOfDeath]

I agree, I still love this movie a lot.

I thought that scene fleshed out Ross' character. I gives reason to his madness. In fact all of Ross' cut scenes were bad cuts. I thought he and Greller had chemistry.

Many people were complaining that he seemed one-dimensional, although I didn't, but all of his scenes would have helped to clear that up. He's a professional military man who sees the big picture at the expense of his own character flaws. The fact that he could tell that Major Sparr was visibly shaken by the sight of the Hulk, and him showing he had enough compassion to realize it and give her the chance to get out if she wanted.

Another scene that was a bad cut was the scene where he tells Banner if he took the Hulk from him, he'd put him in a hole. This was another great moment. The way Betty walks right past him, his reaction was pure genius.

Another thing... I probably already asked this before but what about the other 30 min footage? Norton said there was 70 mins that was cut from the actual theaterical version. I wonder what they consist of.

Hmm actually, How many mins did we get on the dvd? Theres some deleted scenes on Disc 1 and a lot more on the other disc. I havn't really totalled how many mins all together that was cut... maybe its just 30 mins...okay so, what about the 40 mins that was cut?

 

[Compi716]

A lot of the deleted scenes are really good and most definitely would have added more character drama to the story. It's a real shame they were taken out.

Still and awesome movie, though.

 

[Sarg92]

Another thing... I probably already asked this before but what about the other 30 min footage? Norton said there was 70 mins that was cut from the actual theaterical version. I wonder what they consist of.

Hmm actually, How many mins did we get on the dvd? Theres some deleted scenes on Disc 1 and a lot more on the other disc. I havn't really totalled how many mins all together that was cut... maybe its just 30 mins...okay so, what about the 40 mins that was cut?

Everything they shot for this film came up to three hours I think, that was a suicide cut. Marvel then cut that down to the theatrical cut, Norton and Leterrier wanted a futher 20 minutes of footage put into the theatrical cut but Marvel said no. Leterrier then later said we would get 70 minutes of cut footage on Blu-Ray so we will see everything they filmed on Blu-Ray but instead we got 40 minutes of cut footage on Blu-Ray.

 

[YJ1]

Everything they shot for this film came up to three hours I think, that was a suicide cut. Marvel then cut that down to the theatrical cut, Norton and Leterrier wanted a futher 20 minutes of footage put into the theatrical cut but Marvel said no. Leterrier then later said we would get 70 minutes of cut footage on Blu-Ray so we will see everything they filmed on Blu-Ray but instead we got 40 minutes of cut footage on Blu-Ray.

Yeah, I remember reading that Leterrier called it a "suicide cut" because most people would want to kill themselves if they had to watch it all. All of that was never intended to be in the film. No party involved wanted it. The debate was always over the 20 minutes of character development. I'm quite sure that's these deleted scenes. Norton and Leterrier were 100% right.

Honestly, my favorite deleted scene besides the alternate opening is still "Nature's Mystery" which I thought Hurt delivered perfectly. What do you all think of that particular scene.

Of all of them, seeing this cut scene breaks my heart. Hurt is so good and, like Gamma Ra said, it perfectly fleshes out Ross. I've watched it a few times and I literally wince and shake my head when they pull back as he blows cigar smoke to end the scene. It's just too perfect to even think about cutting.

 

[DarknessOfDeath]

Okay...so those who have the blue-ray version of the dvd, are the deleted scenes the same as the ones I've seen on the 3 disc edition? Is that the same 40 mins?

 

[dcHulk]

^^The blue ray has ~42 min of deleted scenes