The Dark Knight TDK Casting Sides

[Shoemeister]

THIS. THREAD. ROCKS!
Miranda, you are the best! I can't believe how incredible this film already sounds. It's gonna be very dark, that's for damn sure.

 

[THE WIDDLER]

Lau is mentioned in the Hong Kong scene. And is being interrogated by Dent. That's interesting.

 

[Shedhut]

EXT. ROOFTOP, PARKING GARAGE - MOMENTS LATER

THE AVENGER grabs the VIGILANTE and RIPS his mask off.

VIGILANTE - We're trying to help you!

AVENGER - I don't need help.

VIGILANTE - Then stay out of my way!

The AVENGER gets right up to the vigilante's face

AVENGER - Don't let me find you out here again.

The AVENGER walks to the edge of the building.

VIGILANTE - You need us! There's only one of you - It's a war out there!

The AVENGER ignores the VIGILANTE, infuriating him.

VIGILANTE (Cont'd) - What gives you the right?! What's the difference between you and me?!

The most interesting one I've seen since the first one.

the theme reminds me of this a little:

 

[Shedhut]

sounds like the Junkie is on feargas or suffering a serious turkeyt:

..."hes here"...? sounds familiar

 

[ultimatefan]

I gotta say, from these pages TDK looks like an even grittier and more noirish movie than Begins, and that´s just awesome. The presumed Dent exchange is great and shows how they´re concerned to keep it real. The vigilantes who seem inspired by Batman clearly seem like Nolan´s take that things have to get worse before they get better. It reminded me of the Sons of Batman from DKR. I wonder if the thug being shot by the cop is a pre-transformation Joker.

 

[R_Hythlodeus]

wow.

miranda, you´re the best! thanx a lot.

 

[Milkman95]

This film is going to rule - the portrayal of The Joker looks spot on to what I pictured him to be - very mysterious, disturbed, intelligent, and freakish.

 

[TheJaberwock]

maybe Randolph is Bullock?

 

[Miranda Fox]

Okay guys, I'm interested:

What were your overall thoughts on the script sides? How does the writing seem to you?

I only ask seeing as how I loved it but elsewhere I've seen it described as 'average to crap.' Um, yeah. Not sure I understand that.

 

[Nepenthes]

WTF! did no one notice the possible Joker origin there?

the page where the 'cop' interrogates the thug..."the mob used to bury bodies here...they wouldn't be found for months....so tell me, where can i find your boss "

"ha ha. you don't need to find him. he'll find you"

so if they're talking in a chemical plant or toxic dump or something....then TDK might include the Jokers origin after all and he was a gangster

edit: and the cop might be Batman, kicking out the knees rather than shooting them. Awesome. And much more likely than Gordon or even Dent shooting up thugs this early in the game

 

[Miranda Fox]

WTF! did no one notice the possible Joker origin there?

the page where the 'cop' interrogates the thug..."the mob used to bury bodies here...they wouldn't be found for months....so tell me, where can i find your boss "

"ha ha. you don't need to find him. he'll find you"

so if they're talking in a chemical plant or toxic dump or something....the Joker was a ganster after all

If you're right, Nep, that matches that Scriptment info posted awhile ago...

 

[AndrewGilkison]

Hardly absolute proof, but it is a rather interesting coincidence.

 

[Nepenthes]

Okay guys, I'm interested:

What were your overall thoughts on the script sides? How does the writing seem to you?

I only ask seeing as how I loved it but elsewhere I've seen it described as 'average to crap.' Um, yeah. Not sure I understand that.

you mean the dialogue or the content? the scenes/content are better than I could have hoped for, but I guess the actual dialogue in some could be improved. The ferry scenes and the bit with 'Gannon and Natasha' in particular seem a little forced, too scripted. But of course this can all become natural in the hands of good actors (or the mouths of good actors, whatever)

Can I ask on which sites people made these 'crap to average' comments?

 

[ultimatefan]

WTF! did no one notice the possible Joker origin there?

the page where the 'cop' interrogates the thug..."the mob used to bury bodies here...they wouldn't be found for months....so tell me, where can i find your boss "

"ha ha. you don't need to find him. he'll find you"

so if they're talking in a chemical plant or toxic dump or something....then TDK might include the Jokers origin after all and he was a gangster

edit: and the cop might be Batman, kicking out the knees rather than shooting them. Awesome. And much more likely than Gordon or even Dent shooting up thugs this early in the game

I did mention it in my post, but yeah, and it sounds like Joker is more of a hitman than a mob boss, which is closer to his role in MOTP.

 

[ultimatefan]

WTF! did no one notice the possible Joker origin there?

the page where the 'cop' interrogates the thug..."the mob used to bury bodies here...they wouldn't be found for months....so tell me, where can i find your boss "

"ha ha. you don't need to find him. he'll find you"

so if they're talking in a chemical plant or toxic dump or something....then TDK might include the Jokers origin after all and he was a gangster

edit: and the cop might be Batman, kicking out the knees rather than shooting them. Awesome. And much more likely than Gordon or even Dent shooting up thugs this early in the game

I did mention it in my post, but yeah, and it sounds like Joker is more of a hitman than a mob boss, which is closer to his role in MOTP. I suspect it´s another cop entirely - could be Bullock?

 

[Miranda Fox]

you mean the dialogue or the content? the scenes/content are better than I could have hoped for, but I guess the actual dialogue in some could be improved. The ferry scenes and the bit with 'Gannon and Natasha' in particular seem a little forced, too scripted. But of course this can all become natural in the hands of good actors (or the mouths of good actors, whatever)

Can I ask on which sites people made these 'crap to average' comments?

It was on the bluetights.net forum.

Oh, I don't think they are perfect - some of the vigilante/avenger dialogue was a little hokey. But IMO these were probably from an early draft.

Still, it's hardly awful.

 

[FlawlessVictory]

Best.Movie.Ever. Thanks to those for making the script pages possible. Miranda, you own these boards, nuff said.

 

[Miranda Fox]

Best.Movie.Ever. Thanks to those for making the script pages possible. Miranda, you own these boards, nuff said.

LOL, thanks FV!

 

[FlawlessVictory]

LOL, thanks FV!

No prob!

 

[Nepenthes]

I did mention it in my post, but yeah, and it sounds like Joker is more of a hitman than a mob boss, which is closer to his role in MOTP. I suspect it´s another cop entirely - could be Bullock?

^ sorry i missed it ufan. I do think it's proper to credit others when they first raised the point


Bullock: I still don't see why he should appear. Flass is basically Bullock anyway and if Renee is around we don't really need any more speaking cop characters. Instead I'd like to see Flass turn a new leaf in this one, but if Bullock does come in lets hope Flass is just conveniently forgotten

It was on the bluetights.net forum.

Hah bluetights! fu'*ken hell. I posted there before I found SHH, when I was looking for a good Batman board. It was a really depressing experiance.

 

[Miranda Fox]

Hah bluetights! fu'*ken hell. I posted there before I found SHH, when I was looking for a good Batman board. It was a really depressing experiance.

Hmm, so they're always like that? I have to say, nearly everywhere else I've been too has been nothing but positive.

 

[sasquatchs]

It was on the bluetights.net forum.

Oh, I don't think they are perfect - some of the vigilante/avenger dialogue was a little hokey. But IMO these were probably from an early draft.

Still, it's hardly awful.

Yea, the Gannon scene dialogue is pretty on the nose too. Is there a chance this stuff is taken from Goyer's 30 page treatment? Page numbers don't go above 22 apart from one. Just feels like it has his fingerprints on it in places.

Not too worried though, The Prestige screenplay was superb

 

[Mr.j_19]

This site should be called MirandaFoxForums.com now LOL.

 

[Miranda Fox]

Yea, the Gannon scene dialogue is pretty on the nose too. Is there a chance this stuff is taken from Goyer's 30 page treatment? Page numbers don't go above 22 apart from one. Just feels like it has his fingerprints on it in places.

Not too worried though, The Prestige screenplay was superb

*nods* That's possible. There was definitely a difference in quality between those and Vigilante sides and the others.

 

[Dirt Like Me]

Still, it's hardly awful.

I think that 'hardly awful' is selling things a little short.

If nothing else these sides tell us a bit more about how big TDK is going to be. From the boats, mall, and National Guard info it's safe to say that there's going to be several large-scale action sequences. (The bank robbery might fit into this category, too).

Also, I love the fact that we're seeing so many players involved in the plot: Batman, Gordon, Joker, Dent, Maroni, Maroni's boss/underling, all these other GCPD members, possibly Scarecrow(?), amateur vigilantes, henchmen...there's lot of stuff going on here.

While I do agree with you that some of the dialogue sounds a little cheesy, I think that dwelling on that is being overly negative. These sides are very encouraging, and I think anybody who is calling them awful is either expecting too much or is just being an ass.

One final thought that I had: I wonder if the role of 'defense attorney' is Dawes. It could be a case where she left the DA's office to become a public defender (and thus is still a true believer/good soul type). It would seem redundant to have her and Dent both prosecuting, and using her as a PD would allow both of them to be in court at the same time, too.