The Dark Knight TDK Casting Sides

[JL Unlimited]

I think it would make more sense if Rossi is Maroni's right hand man, and the whole trial is a set up by the mob to get rid of Dent.

In this scenario, Dent and Rossi would cut some kind of immunity deal where Rossi agrees to testify against his old boss, but really Rossi would still be loyal to Maroni. Rossi throws something in that glass of water he took a sip of, a chemical reaction takes place, he flings it at Harvey, and it all hits the fan.

One thing that always bugged me about TLH is that Dent can't call Maroni to testify against himself. (The Fifth Amendment says so). Adding this Rossi wrinkle remedies that problem without really affecting the Maroni/Dent dynamic, as Maroni would still be behind the scarring.

Actually, in TLH, Dent called Maroni to testify against Falcone, not himself.

 

[Anjow1060]

So does anyone else know what I'm talking about with the "Schoolbus" sides?

 

[Ryan227]

Anjow I am definitely interested in the school bus scene but I didn't get a chance to read it. Any chance we can get a little description of it so we can all comment? Thanks man!

 

[Anjow1060]

no prob ryan gimme a few minutes to paraphrase it

 

[Katsuro]

Thanks for the heads up on that one.

I still say Chuckles is Mr. J in a ski-mask, pre-robbery.

I guess it's possible they had someone audition for a role that doesn't exist, but since the name is on the list, Chuckles WAS an auditionable role.

The same goes for some of the detectives and cops, or the junkie. Those roles are up for casting, so the junkie's definatley not Crane, and it's very likely none of the cops are Bullock or Flass. Wuertz is probably one of them, but not the cop shooting the thug's knee.

 

[Katsuro]

Btw, people keep refrencing something about Dent or Gordon order 800 arrests, where is that at? It wasn't in any of the sides.

 

[Anjow1060]

INT. Garage - Continuous (no page number visible)

A SWAT stands beside the empty school bus.

The Swat leader tells Gordon they found the missing bus and that it's a hostage situation. (They refer to Gordon as Chief yet again)

The chief looks towards an empty building where the hostages are held.

Gordan says it's a shooting gallery and wonders why he chose a spot with so many windows.

The SWAT leader says they have clear shots on 5 subjects and that the teams could move in and end this with a top count of 3 casulties.

Gordon is worried that the SWAT member is underestimating whats going on.

The swat leader agrees, but mentions that the longer they wait, the more things get complicated.

Gordon wonders complicated in what way.

The swat leader says it'll get deadly.

Gordon nods and the team prepares to move in on the building.



Thats it. The side is for the part of the SWAT Leader.

 

[Rory gets laid]

So ok,

One scene that litterally no one has discussed is the school bus scene. Joker and his men have kidnapped little kids on a school bus and Gordon gives the order to go in and try and save them.

Anyone else have thoughts on that one?

Good call, Anjow.

I just re-read that scene, as well as the radio station scene, and it occurred to me...

If the maniac running free (that Engel is reffering to) is in fact Mr. J, then doesn't that (not to mention the terrorized cop, who refers to his assailant's "smile") somewhat contradict the popular theory that the prisoner in the "Stephens" scene is Mr. J?

In order for all this to be true, Mr. J would have to have been arrested (on purpose, it seems), only to escape later on...perhaps on one of the two ferrys?!? (Hence the cops being bound, gagged, and blindfolded...perhaps Mr. J hijacks the prisoner ferry!)

I know it's difficult to speculate with the very little we have, but it is interesting, isn't it?

 

[Anjow1060]

actually Katsuro it was, Miranda came on and told us about it and that she forgot to post it.

*checks inbox for email addresses*

oh.....guess i can't send it out

 

[Dirt Like Me]

Actually, in TLH, Dent called Maroni to testify against Falcone, not himself.

Yeah, you're right. I just looked. In a caption where they seach Maroni it says he's the witness.

But it still doesn't make any sense (criminal procedure-wise) becasue Falcone wasn't in the courtroom. He was blowing out candles at his birthday party. As the defendant in the case he'd be in the courtoom.

But, in TDK Falcone is MIA anyway, so it'd Maroni playing the Falcone role in TLH with Rossi playing the Maroni role.

 

[Ryan227]

Thanks again! I think this could be a non-Joker thing because Gordon doesn't want to wait for Bats cuz he knows how busy Batman is with the rest of Gotham going to hell? If it is a Joker thing then I think this is Gordon still not wanting to fully be behind a vigilante, ala TLH, and therefore he wants the SWAT and Gotham PD to take care of a problem themselves.....

IDK so many different scenarios are going through my head....including the scene from Year One where Bats takes out the corrupt officers in the abandoned building that is falling down!

 

[Anjow1060]

Good call, Anjow.

I just re-read that scene, as well as the radio station scene, and it occurred to me...

If the maniac running free (that Engel is reffering to) is in fact Mr. J, then doesn't that (not to mention the terrorized cop, who refers to his assailant's "smile") somewhat contradict the popular theory that the prisoner in the "Stephens" scene is Mr. J?

In order for all this to be true, Mr. J would have to have been arrested (on purpose, it seems), only to escape later on...perhaps on one of the two ferrys?!? (Hence the cops being bound, gagged, and blindfolded...perhaps Mr. J hijacks the prisoner ferry!)

I know it's difficult to speculate with the very little we have, but it is interesting, isn't it?

Well, assuming what Goyer said way back in the day about the team of Gordon-Bats-Dent taking down Joker and then Joker scarring Dent on trail leads me to believe that somewhere in the midst of the middle of the story, Bats does get Joker into custody and then he has to break out again somewhere towards the end for the finale. So I have a strong feeling that Mr. J is the prisoner, but I'm still of the mind that 2face is behind the Ferry Plot and that also the Brian scene, 2F is interrogating him, and not Mr. J.

 

[Ryan227]

I'm a big supporter of the person who is interrogating Brian is 2Face but we don't get to see him until the 3rd movie OR the last thing we see is him revealing himself to Brian and we see him scarred and then BAM black screen, see you in a couple years....

 

[Anjow1060]

We'll see him, Eckhart has a mouth like Caine and spills the beans. The only new member that has been Nolanized is Ledger. He gives away no plot details what so ever.

 

[Rory gets laid]

The fat thug collapsing sounds like just the distraction that Mr. J would need to make his move, and hijack the prisoner ferry...

Also, Berg in the one scene reminds me an awful lot of Dent slowly losing his faith in justice (esp. after his wife has been targeted)...so I'm beginning to think that some of the main characters are being referred to by more than one name...

...perhaps to confuddle we fanboys in the event that the sides are leaked...oh wait!

 

[Ryan227]

I think I'm more excited to see how they deal with the scarring of Two-Face then seeing Joker..........no wait..........excitement level is about equal. Is it July '08 yet?

 

[Rory gets laid]

Hmm... interesting also is the fact that there are no sides listed for the role of Berg OR the Cheif...

Sorry I can't comment on the "Brian" scene, as it seems to be omitted from the Word version I have...

 

[Ryan227]

The Brian scene is one of the better ones I read along with the Natascha and Gannon scene where they talk about the "need" for Batman in Gotham. That one gave me chills, esp. Gannon's last line about passing the mantle and Natascha commenting on how he maybe Bats......great exchange IMO.

 

[Rory gets laid]

Edit.

 

[Rory gets laid]

Methinks Berg = Gannon = Dent

Berg's wife is victimized by the mob, leading to a senseless act of revenge (by Berg)... later, the conversation between Gannon and Natascha (Rachel) reflect his (Gannon's/Berg's) contemplative feelings of Gotham/Batman/Justice/loss of faith in the system, etc., leading Natascha (Rachel) to suspect that Berg/Gannon/Dent is Batman...then as an act of revenge (for what transpired during the Berg scene), Prosecutor (Berg/Gannon/Dent) gets a hostile "treat" from a hostile witness...

Am I getting close ???

 

[Ryan227]

Sorry about the double post, slow computer!

 

[Crooklyn]

Methinks Berg = Gannon = Dent

Berg's wife is victimized by the mob, leading to a senseless act of revenge (by Berg)... later, the conversation between Gannon and Natascha (Rachel) reflect his (Gannon's/Berg's) contemplative feelings of Gotham/Batman/Justice/loss of faith in the system, etc., leading Natascha (Rachel) to suspect that Berg/Gannon/Dent is Batman...then as an act of revenge (for what transpired during the Berg scene), Prosecutor (Berg/Gannon/Dent) gets a hostile "treat" from a hostile witness...

Am I getting close ???

Berg's a cop. Dent isn't.

 

[Ryan227]

Natascha came with the character that we all think is Bruce to go to dinner with Gannon and another woman so I don't think Natascha is Rachel although that would make complete and total sense.....but I love the way you're thinking Rory!

 

[Matis17]

If the exchange between Rossi and the Prosecutor is really where Dent gets scarred, I must say that it is a MASSIVE improvement on the way it happens in TLH. A great story in general, but I always found that one scene quite illogical and stupid. The way it's done here is a hell of alot smarter on Maroni's part.

 

[Ryan227]

One last thing before I leave for class........I agree with Matis I really hope they keep the scene with Rossi and that it is in fact how Dent gets scarred because that would be an awesome improvement over what TLH had and would really give Dent fire power as Two Face against the mob in movie 3.