The Dark Knight TDK Fighting Style News

[Darkest Knight]

Keysi is back? YESSSSS. Score one more for the good guys. Most vicious form of fighting I've seen on screen in quite sometime. Great to see it being used again by our boy in black.

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

Interesting point, we´ll see what other martial art will be used with keysi, but above all, i hope they film the fight scenes differently, i didnt really knew what was happening, it was the only flaw in BB, cause the overall product was superb

Agreed. Nolan needs to back the camera up, just a teensy bit.

 

[Kevin Roegele]

what about the logo in this jacket? batman beyond, right?

Dean Cain has really let himself go.

 

[GeoffTheArtist]

edit

 

[batmaluco]

Anything Bruce Lee is good to me

Yes, and he didn't need an electric device and a cape to have a glider:

 

[Fried Gold]

My old kung fu teacher was an extra in Batman Begins.

 

[batmaluco]

Dean Cain has really let himself go.

lol! t:

 

[Visionary]

It doesn't matter what style Batman uses if Nolan uses the shaky cam with super-quick editing.

Indeed.

We didn't even get to see the style they used in the first film, except in the behind the scene footage on the DVD, damn shame.

 

[Red Eyed Coyote]

Heh, Batman gets to follow in Buce Lee's footsteps, I'm jealous.

 

[Shedhut]

I like the idea of including JKD in the film
(Take a look at Tommy Carruther to see some nice moves btw: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdnH3Mu-oXY)
but at the end of the day im not a big fan of Keysi. Although it is very effective it just doesnt look right and is therfore inappropriate for a Batman-film imo . Also Im not a big Fan of most modern self-created martial-arts because they are mostly uninspired unnecessary ripoffs. Imo they could have "created" something better if they worked with the basics of Keysi (I suppose JKD, ju-jutsu, Wing Tsun, Kraf Maga...) seperately and included some "dancelike" moneyshots from other styles.
My rant is based on the extras on the DVD of course since in the film there wasnt shown enough fights to judge them

 

[RedIsNotBlue]

Uh I think the real question is WHO is Batman going to be fighting that warrants this?

 

[Nepenthes]

^ now that's a damn good question

ninja hit squads and strongmen is all I can think off

 

[Sluggo]

I never understood why "Batmans fighting style" was such a big point of discusion.

1) Nolan is not an action director and as such he use's tight shots and quick editing so it doesn't really matter what style is being used since it is not being show cased.

2) Limiting Batman to one style is a HORRIBLE move. Anyone who reads Batman knows that he has trained in every/any martial art he could so that it doesn't matter what the situation is, he can react. If a good-old Americaning Boxing right hook is whats needed, thats what he'll do.

3) Any martial artist knows that their is not a whole lot of difference between most martial arts. I do not know Keysi, I however know Jeet Kune Do so I'll use that as my example. Bruce Lee did not invent a new way of punching or kicking or new blocks or anything like that, in fact Jeet Kune Do basically assumes the student has some previous martial arts training. Jeet Kune Do simply 1) Turned the fit vertical 2) Made the attack and block into 1 motion into 2 very fast motions 3) took away high kicks and 4) Did away with katas and 5) Put the strong hand foward. He didn't really "invent" anything, he just found a new way to use what existed.

Now there are a few exceptions - Kung Fu has very different moves and concepts then karate. American Boxing is a very, very simply form of fighting. And arts that focus on grappling are much different as well. But those are broad stroke martial arts (ie - many different forms of Kung Fu and Karate).

 

[abiwankenobi]

I think they used Keysi because it is a less recognizable fighting style. They wanted Batman to have his own version of fighting much like what you said Bruce Lee did with Kung Fu into Jeet Kune Do.
I understand Nolan is not an action director but he is making a Batman movie. The whole premise is this guy who goes out to "fight" crime. Action is a big part of it. While Nolan used tight shots and editing in most of the right places there were times that it seemed more like a way to avoid the fact that he is not in fact an action director. We just want to see Batman fighting rather than the fear element to his crime fighting techniques being showcased even when the opponent is not afraid, like the Ra's Bats fight on the train. I mean it was over before you knew they had actually been fighting. There were some shots that stuck out where Batman maybe delivered a straight up right hook to Ra's face but for the most part it didn't work for that sequence in my opinion. Now the brawl at the docks was perfect, or some of the takes used in the prison fight at the beginning. I felt that prison fight really showcased the emotional intensity with which Bruce fights, very improvisatory.

 

[explode7]

I didn't like that last fighting scene in BB where Batman fought Ra's it was too simple like 2 everyday man fighting each other to see who's better. I mean c'mon its the motherf***ing batman and a dude who is extremely skilled in fighting way beyond the everyday common martial artist.

 

[RedIsNotBlue]

What the **** did you want? Them flipping and flying everywhere?

 

[Keyser Sushi]

What the **** did you want? Them flipping and flying everywhere?

Flaming ninjas.

He wants flaming ninjas falling from the sky.

 

[RedIsNotBlue]

Flaming ninjas.

He wants flaming ninjas falling from the sky.

Well I mean come on. Who DOESN'T want that?

 

[explode7]

ok that was just wrong dude.

 

[RedIsNotBlue]

Bwahahahaha.

 

[Keyser Sushi]

Well I mean come on. Who DOESN'T want that?

ROFL!!!

Okay, well uh... I was thinking like a horrible Mortal Kombat movie, but, LOL... that's... LOL...

 

[explode7]

I prefer the flaming ninjas.

 

[Darkest Knight]

I didn't like that last fighting scene in BB where Batman fought Ra's it was too simple like 2 everyday man fighting each other to see who's better. I mean c'mon its the motherf***ing batman and a dude who is extremely skilled in fighting way beyond the everyday common martial artist.

Pimp, they were in a subway car ...

Have you ever been in one of those? Yeah, if you have you wouldn't be complaining why there wasn't any back flips, hurdles, and all that other crap...

 

[The Only Woj]

another big problems with the actions scenes in Begins ... it being segmented. Gotham dock fight? cut to shots of Falcone looking on. Ninjas in Narrows? Cut to Gordon in Tumbler. Batman and Ra's in the monorail? Cut to Gordon in Tumbler or exterior shots of Gotham or the monorail. There wasn't one straight forward fight scene. I can see that there really wasn't a way to show the two concurrent events from happening without cutting to one another, but it just made the fights that much harder to watch.

 

[El Payaso]

Nolan should base the next Batman fight scenes in this, the Best Fight Scene Ever.

Click and learn.