Teen Murderer Says Jail Is Too Hard

[kainedamo]

Here are my feelings on prison.

Prisons should serve several purposes. Number one, they take away those of us in our society that would do the rest of us harm and keep them safely locked away. Number two, punishment. Number three, reformation.

I don't think a prison should be some dungeon that you throw them in then feed them nothing but bread and water everyday. And I don't believe in the death penalty either. Too many innocent people have been put to death. Not to mention that the death penalty is just plain barbaric and medievil. And it's expensive. You could do away with alot of the cost by getting rid of the appeals process and all of that "red tape"... but then you run the risk of even more innocent people being put to death.

I don't think prison should be a leisure cruise either. You hear of these prisons with dvd players and playstations. What the hell is that all about?? That money could be put to better use.

I think prisons should at least attempt to reform prisoners. That means having a counsellor or two in a prison, maybe a priest, have some classes, a library, AA type meetings where drug addicts can talk about their problems. That type of thing.

Having said all of that, this kid deserves no sympathy. If he were older, I'd have said give him life. But he was young. Not that that is an excuse. It just makes it alot more likely he'll terribly regret doing it and really want to change. Right now, I don't think he's at that point. If he was, he wouldn't be asking to be let out. He'd accept his punishment like a man for what he did.

 

[Kritish]

Here are my feelings on prison.

Prisons should serve several purposes. Number one, they take away those of us in our society that would do the rest of us harm and keep them safely locked away. Number two, punishment. Number three, reformation.

I don't think a prison should be some dungeon that you throw them in then feed them nothing but bread and water everyday. And I don't believe in the death penalty either. Too many innocent people have been put to death. Not to mention that the death penalty is just plain barbaric and medievil. And it's expensive. You could do away with alot of the cost by getting rid of the appeals process and all of that "red tape"... but then you run the risk of even more innocent people being put to death.

I don't think prison should be a leisure cruise either. You hear of these prisons with dvd players and playstations. What the hell is that all about?? That money could be put to better use.

I think prisons should at least attempt to reform prisoners. That means having a counsellor or two in a prison, maybe a priest, have some classes, a library, AA type meetings where drug addicts can talk about their problems. That type of thing.

Having said all of that, this kid deserves no sympathy. If he were older, I'd have said give him life. But he was young. Not that that is an excuse. It just makes it alot more likely he'll terribly regret doing it and really want to change. Right now, I don't think he's at that point. If he was, he wouldn't be asking to be let out. He'd accept his punishment like a man for what he did.

Almost all prisons have a priest and a library for the well-behaved ones.
As for the addicts they can go cold turkey in their cell.
The kid killed another human being for the fun of it, he dosen't deserve a second chance.

 

[kainedamo]

Almost all prisons have a priest and a library for the well-behaved ones.
As for the addicts they can go cold turkey in their cell.
The kid killed another human being for the fun of it, he dosen't deserve a second chance.

He sorta does seem psychotic. Having no remorse after it and all. But he was 15. Again, not an excuse. It just means 20 or 30 years from now he could be an entirely different person filled with remorse.

 

[Darren Daring]

I don't understand, where in the article does he say Prison is too hard?

 

[Kritish]

He sorta does seem psychotic. Having no remorse after it and all. But he was 15. Again, not an excuse. It just means 20 or 30 years from now he could be an entirely different person filled with remorse.

Prison usually end ups making better criminals, he'll come out bitter and with the knowledge of how to hot wire cars and make shivs.

 

[WompuM]

yeah, but at least he won't want to be a conselour for messed up teens anymore

 

[.M.D.]

I wonder what his ideal vision of prison was. The judge who denied rules, let the mother****er wallow in boredom. Maybe even let other people write him letters about how great it is to do everything he's being neglected from.

 

[kainedamo]

Prison usually end ups making better criminals, he'll come out bitter and with the knowledge of how to hot wire cars and make shivs.

Which is why I think more emphasise should be put into trying to reform criminals instead of always locking them up, only for them to come out worse than when they came in.

Prisons are full to bursting. We can't just keep building new ones all the time.

 

[Darren Daring]

Why not?

 

[kainedamo]

Why not?

Because it's obvious that it's a system that doesn't work.

 

[Darren Daring]

Lack of materials?

 

[Strange]

they should build prisons under water and then it would be cool to go to jail.

 

[Erzengel]

Strange has an unhealthy obsession with the Little Mermaid.

 

[Strange]

Strange has an unhealthy obsession with the Little Mermaid.

Who are you to decide whether its unhealthy or not?

 

[huskerwebhead]

They should build a prison in the Negative Zone.

 

[kainedamo]

These are my feelings on the death penalty.

If you're going to have the death penalty, AT LEAST make big gladatorial arenas where criminals fight each other to the death on live television.

 

[Erzengel]

Who are you to decide whether its unhealthy or not?

Cause it'd make sense if MerPeople had anatomically correct bottoms. How are you suppose to have sex with that? Hence unhealthy.

 

[Strange]

These are my feelings on the death penalty.

If you're going to have the death penalty, AT LEAST make big gladatorial arenas where criminals fight each other to the death on live television.

As long as its done fair with regards to weight classes and everything. Oh and they should all have to wear bunny suits.

 

[Strange]

Cause it'd make sense if MerPeople had anatomically correct bottoms. How are you suppose to have sex with that? Hence unhealthy.

Oral?

 

[Hades]

When did it become cool to beat people to death

Did teenagers do things like this years ago?

 

[terry78]

When did it become cool to beat people to death

Did teenagers do things like this years ago?

During the Dark Ages, sure.

 

[Alex Summers]

When did it become cool to beat people to death

Did teenagers do things like this years ago?

The thing you need to understand is that teenagers are stupid. All of them.

 

[kainedamo]

When did it become cool to beat people to death

Did teenagers do things like this years ago?

They lynched ******s in the old days.

Before that, the lynched witches.

People have always been *******s.

 

[Memphis Slim]

http://www.wftv.com/news/10458584/detail.html

DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. -- One of the teenagers responsible for beating a Holly Hill homeless man to death asked a judge to reduce his 22-year prison sentence Monday. Warren Messner and three other teens pled guilty to killing the man because they were bored, but Messner said prison is too hard.

Messner is a big boy. He was 15 at the time he was brought into the woods to see the homeless man his friends had been beating. Even at that young age, he outweighed the victim, Michael Roberts, by 200 pounds when he jumped on his chest, crushing his ribcage. Roberts died.

"Did you feel bad when you are doing it?" Messner was asked during questioning.

"Not really, no," he replied.

He didn't feel bad then, but he does now. He has been in juvenile detention for eight months, locked in a small cell and occasionally allowed to go to class.

Messner and his attorney said he has already learned his lesson and is ready to go home to help others.

"I want to be an inspirational speaker for troubled teens," he said Monday.

Messner got the lightest sentence of the four boys. Teens Jeffrey Spurgeon, Justin Stearns and Christopher Scamahorn got 27 to 35 years. They all cut plea deals to avoid life in prison.

The state attorney said that's as much leniency as they should get and the judge agreed.

"I can't think of some reason to change the sentence. I'm going to deny the motion," said the Hon. Joseph Will.

Messner's parents broke down at the denial. His mother said it's unfair, that her son fell in with a bad crowd and prison is killing him.

"He's not getting the mental health, the schooling. He's not getting anything, anything but locked in a cell all day long," Lori Messner said.

The judge and the state both argued that being deprived services and being locked away is precisely the point of prison. Warren Messner will spend the next 22 years in prison without the chance for parole.
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