Animation Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Mutant Mayhem

[2kt09]

I hate to break it to you, but Michael Bay is still a producer on this, isn't he?

he is.

 

[DarkKnight88]

Yeah, but he was a producer on Bumblebee and look how good that turned out.

 

[Teelie]

True. Whatever his role was as producer it wasn't enough to derail that movie.

 

[TheMalaka]

Bumblebee was essentially a remake of the 2007 movie.



In Bumblebee and Transformers, the Autobot is a fish-out-of-water in human suburbia. After Bumblebee takes Sam and Mikaela to meet Optimus Prime and the rest of the Autobots, the robots all follow Sam to his house while he looks for the glasses which contain the map to the AllSpark Cube. Sam and Mikaela have to find the glasses while trying to make sure his parents don't notice the Autobots blundering around and wrecking their backyard. Bumblebee has two similar scenes; one where an attempt to prank a mean girl goes awry when Bee destroys her BMW and a second where Bee is left alone, enters Charlie's house, and accidentally wrecks the place. Both films also have a character ask, "Are you on drugs?" Sam says it to a police officer accusing him of drug use while Charlie's mother Sally (Pamela Adlon) says it to her son, Otis (Jason Drucker), when he's behaving strangely. Both films also feature awkward comedy where both Charlie and Sam are embarrassed by their weird parents. Sector Seven comes after Sam and Mikaela for their contact with Non-Biological Extraterrestrials and comically invade the Witwicky home. When Ron Witwicky says that he's never heard of Sector Seven, Agent Seymour Simmons (John Turturro) replies, "[You] never will." Similarly, after Sector Seven captures Bumblebee and brings Charlie home, her stepfather, who's also named Ron, confesses to the soldiers that he once stole a box of Mallomars to which Agent Jack Burns (John Cena) replied, "We know." And in both films, Bumblebee is captured by Sector Seven by being impaled with electrical chains and he is tortured while incarcerated Bumblebee also fights the Decepticons at night in industrial settings. In Transformers, Bee and Barricade battle it out at a warehouse before the Autobot reveals himself to Sam and Mikaela, while in Bumblebee, the final battle takes place at a harborside factory. Bumblebee fights and destroys both Shatter & Dropkick while Charlie disables the beacon the Decepticons are building to signal an invasion. Because Bee can't talk in either film (Bumblebee explains how he loses his vocal processors), he communicates through song lyrics via his radio. And both Sam and Charlie are in awe when Bee upgrades himself; in Bumblebee, he switches from a Volkswagen Beetle into a 1977 Camaro, while he turns into a more futuristic Camaro in Transformers.

 

[TheVileOne]

Yeah there are definite similarities with the basic plot for the 2007 movie.

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

Yeah there are definite similarities with the basic plot for the 2007 movie.

Agreed.

Guys, I’m excited about this reboot. I think it can be special if done right.

 

[TheMalaka]

Agreed.

Guys, I’m excited about this reboot. I think it can be special if done right.

For me they gotta get the look right for the obvious characters & not do what the newest cartoon did with the look & everything else before I ever get excited

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

For me they gotta get the look right for the obvious characters & not do what the newest cartoon did with the look & everything else before I ever get excited

Most definitely.

 

[Teelie]

Bumblebee was a remake of the original movie but it was one that greatly improved on it. I just hope the TMNT remake is something that can at least be as good as the original since the previous reboot with Bay was awful.

 

[TheMalaka]

Bumblebee was a remake of the original movie but it was one that greatly improved on it. I just hope the TMNT remake is something that can at least be as good as the original since the previous reboot with Bay was awful.

& thats probably where Michael Bay came into play. He likely helped with the story but thats it

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

I wonder if filming will begin in October, November or December.

 

[Aximili86]

Man those last two reboot ones were total anus. I'd watch TMNT 3 over either of those any day of the week.

They need to just go small here, use the 1990 flick as a model. Origin story or no, probably no need to do it again, but for god's sake just go a little more tangible & local with it this time. Four teenagers in the sewers and some sh*tty part of the Bronx or whatever, fighting ninjas (actual ninja-ninjas, not this GI Joe movie crap) on the orders of a sentient Japanese-stereotype rat. With practical costumes and a few dozen martial arts dudes as the Foot guys. PG-13, without being so intense a 10 year old can't see it, or so moronic a 10 year old wouldn't want to like with the reboots. Bing bang boom, done.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I didn’t mind the last movies as much as most, but I am excited for this reboot for sure. Hopefully lessons were learned with the last movies though.

 

[Alien Anal]

Iv said it before in another thread
My ideal film would be set in early to mid 80s New York featuring lots of NY punk and Hip Hop from that time. Keep it simple so something like The Warriors meets Attack the Block. Practical suits perhaps with CGI to help the facial movements, look at Del too films that feature heavy practical suits something like Abe Sapien or HellBoy and make sure the voice actors at least are passable as teen ages. The turtles should act and talk and interact with each other like teenagers.

Attack the block is a great example of bad ass teens that are still good people but also find getting into trouble fun.

I have this scene in my head where the turtles (all wearing red head bands) are chasing some gang members through alleyways and over buildings when they come crashing into an art studio run by Andy Warhol. Andy comes over to them and doesn't call them freaks and thinks they look fantastic and asks what their names are to which they say they don't have any so he calls over Jaun Michel Basquit to give them names and he grabs a paint brush and writes 4 different artists names on them. Cut to a scene of Andy displaying some new works at a show and it's 4 turtles with different colored head bands

 

[Aximili86]

Yeah, setting it in the 80s would be inspired, though you'd probably drive some people away with a period setting I guess. Might not be the smartest move to draw in the kids, but whatever.

NYC's too clean & gleaming & corporations-have-crushed-the-mob-and-a-lot-of-the-grit to work as well as it used to for something like this. The underworld still exists, yeah, but NYC's a whole different place than it was when Eastman & Laird were coming up with this stuff.

 

[Alien Anal]

Yeah, setting it in the 80s would be inspired, though you'd probably drive some people away with a period setting I guess. Might not be the smartest move to draw in the kids, but whatever.

NYC's too clean & gleaming & corporations-have-crushed-the-mob-and-a-lot-of-the-grit to work as well as it used to for something like this. The underworld still exists, yeah, but NYC's a whole different place than it was when Eastman & Laird were coming up with this stuff.

Doesn't seem to be an issue for stranger things. If anything the 80s are in right now.

 

[Aximili86]

Stranger Things is pretty much aimed at people who remember the 80s as a nostalgia thing, whereas TMNT needs to embrace the kids too.

Hey, it'd be cool, just don't see it happening.

 

[Alien Anal]

Stranger Things is pretty much aimed at people who remember the 80s as a nostalgia thing, whereas TMNT needs to embrace the kids too.

Hey, it'd be cool, just don't see it happening.

Possibly, I'm not sure of what the general viewers are of stranger things and if teens are into it so I can't comment on that. Personally I'm of the mind that anything can be good if it's well written and Is...good haha. Plus wonder women is going to be set in the 80s so what capitalize on whats trending if it could also make the movie unique and stand out.

It would just look so cool with all the graffiti and gangs and misunderstood youth roaming the streets.

Plus really all I'm describing is what I want to see not so much what will happen or what teens want as they usually just follow what's cool at the time and if you could make 80s NY TMNT cool then they would eat it up.

 

[TheVileOne]

I would basically follow the 2012 template.

Michael Bay and the previous crews clearly didn't have a good grasp on these characters. The Turtles looked awful and were poorly defined as characters. Splinter looked awful too. Splinter should look and sound cool. Whatever background they go with. I personally prefer him as having been Hamato Yoshi.

 

[Alien Anal]

I would basically follow the 2012 template.

Michael Bay and the previous crews clearly didn't have a good grasp on these characters. The Turtles looked awful and were poorly defined as characters. Splinter looked awful too. Splinter should look and sound cool. Whatever background they go with. I personally prefer him as having been Hamato Yoshi.

I think you really need to throw a curve ball into the mix when rebooting this property. It needs to feel completely fresh and unlike anything we have seen before. It needs to stand out and make anyone that sees the first trailer think oh **** this is a movie I want to see regardless if it's Ninja Turtles or john wick

 

[TheVileOne]

I think you really need to throw a curve ball into the mix when rebooting this property. It needs to feel completely fresh and unlike anything we have seen before. It needs to stand out and make anyone that sees the first trailer think oh **** this is a movie I want to see regardless if it's Ninja Turtles or john wick

How though? Plus it's a reboot. That's the problem with all this nostalgia garbage. If it's too similar, people get angry. If it's too different, people get angry.

 

[Alien Anal]

How though? Plus it's a reboot. That's the problem with all this nostalgia garbage. If it's too similar, people get angry. If it's too different, people get angry.

From years of being a movie chaser as I call It there is one thing I have learnt and it's that fan folk have no idea what they want until it's served in front of them and it's awesome. They whinge and moan about too many sequels but get excited by a new ghost busters movie just as an example. Hollywood announces something and everyone whines and then when it's actually good they want more. Take M Night for example, he has been a joke for years now and then releases split which imo was terrible and now everyone is excited for glass like he has magically returned to form. People don't know what they want, the artist decides .

So I guess what I'm saying is forget what people want and make something "you" want because movie nerds hate everything until it's cool.

 

[TheVileOne]

From years of being a movie chaser as I call It there is one thing I have learnt and it's that fan folk have no idea what they want until it's served in front of them and it's awesome. They whinge and moan about too many sequels but get excited by a new ghost busters movie just as an example. Hollywood announces something and everyone whines and then when it's actually good they want more. Take M Night for example, he has been a joke for years now and then releases split which imo was terrible and now everyone is excited for glass like he has magically returned to form. People don't know what they want, the artist decides .

So I guess what I'm saying is forget what people want and make something "you" want because movie nerds hate everything until it's cool.

LOL you are preaching to the choir there bro. I also thought Split was terrible. That was one where I was like "This is the time you decide to praise Shyamalan?"

 

[Alien Anal]

LOL you are preaching to the choir there bro. I also thought Split was terrible. That was one where I was like "This is the time you decide to praise Shyamalan?"

I'm glad I'm not the only one not that I want to turn this conversation into dig at Split. It just seems like a lot of fan folk are like children that refuse to eat something and then when they are tricked into eating it their eyes widen and they love it even though they protested hard about not wanting it earlier. Oh what a solo joker origin story! That's a terrible idea. . Oh wait it's Joaquin Phoenix and the set pics look good. ..Count me in and why don't they reboot DC with this joker even though they are yet to see the film.

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

So summer 2021 for this movie, right? Has to be.