Action-Adventure Terminator: Dark Fate

[VictusMortuus]

This was definitely not as well made as the first 2 but was soooo much better than the other Terminator movies. I definitely wanted it to be better and to offer something new which it didn’t, but it was entertaining. I just wish we got a full on R rated war movie set in the future. The franchise does have so much potential to do new things but for whatever reason we keep getting new movies that just retread the same basic plots. Give me a war movie in the vain of Saving Private Ryan but with John Connor and robots in an apocalyptic wasteland.

 

[TheVileOne]

Salvation was really the only way for this franchise to go and they mucked that up too.

 

[Sithborg]

Salvation was really the only way for this franchise to go and they mucked that up too.

[looks wistfully at Sarah Connor Chronicles]

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Salvation was really the only way for this franchise to go and they mucked that up too.

I think that's why it's the worst sequel for me. Had so much potential, and they gave it to McG

 

[TheVileOne]

Terminator Resistance is a Future War game that seems to be getting criminally underrated. Like it's not a great game but does an OK job for what it does.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Terminator Resistance is a Future War game that seems to be getting criminally underrated. Like it's not a great game but does an OK job for what it does.

I have heard good things, but hate FPS games unfortunately.

 

[GothamAlleys]

This is called getting old, homie. Every older generation feels this way about the younger folks. Doesn’t invalidate it of course, but we are becoming relics in a way.

I have to disagree. Of course to some degree, yes, thats true, but every generation thus far was respectful of previous classics and actually seeked out and saw them or were familiar with them. Jaws wasnt in my times, neither was the first Alien or 2001 or The Thing but I saw them like everyone else I knew and grew up with. Cant say the same about the youngsters now. I recently spoke to a young guy around 20 and he had no idea who Kevin Costner is and met quite a few who refer to 2011 movies as old. As oppose to previous generations, this time theres no "respect" or "common knowledge" in the film pantheon anymore.

 

[-JKR-]

Not entirely their fault.
Everything's quick and quickly forgotten now. There's too much content, and too much new content being released each day. Attention spans and concepts such as timelessness are collapsing.
It also depends on their education in that area. Having grown up with me, my teenage brother has no problem at all watching older movies, and even his preferences surprise me sometimes. For example, he prefers the very first Terminator and Mad Max movies over their sequels.

 

[Da-Scribe]

I’m 30 and grew up with premium cable channels. I watched what was on. That’s not how younger folks consume media now. There’s a variety of media channels to choose from and they can choose what they watch and when they want to watch it. It’s not disrespect. The landscape has simply changed.

That said, I have a ton of contemporaries who are unfamiliar with many classics. No generation is exempt from ignorance. But every generation thinks they handled things better.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

To be fair I get what some are saying, I was born in the early 80's and there are lots of movies from the 60's and 70's I have never watched and probably won't at this point.

 

[KaijuDude1992]

Out of all the sequels Salvation is still the most disappointing IMO. Like Genisys is the worst film in the franchise for me, but Salvation had so much potential that honestly I don't consider it to be that much better, because of how much they wasted it.

 

[Da-Scribe]

Out of all the sequels Salvation is still the most disappointing IMO. Like Genisys is the worst film in the franchise for me, but Salvation had so much potential that honestly I don't consider it to be that much better, because of how much they wasted it.

I agree with this. Still though, it's the only sequel I can rewatch. Also, I love how T2 transcends the sequel label. That says a lot to me about how strong the original two entries are.

 

[Milk Tray Guy]

Out of all the sequels Salvation is still the most disappointing IMO. Like Genisys is the worst film in the franchise for me, but Salvation had so much potential that honestly I don't consider it to be that much better, because of how much they wasted it.

I feel like this about Genisys. I thought there was a really good story in there that they completely ****ed.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Out of all the sequels Salvation is still the most disappointing IMO. Like Genisys is the worst film in the franchise for me, but Salvation had so much potential that honestly I don't consider it to be that much better, because of how much they wasted it.

Same, Genysis disappointed me, Salvation made me angry how much they botched it.

Still can’t believe they made the T-600, which was the first INFILTRATION unit and got spotted humans due to its rubber skin, 9 foot tall with shoulders wider than a truck

 

[OutOfBoose]

The biggest achievement of Dark Fate: it made me like T2 a bit less. Sort of Star Wars effect. Sequels get progressively worse and worse, and the more they draw from the classics, they just wear them down. And why specifically Dark Fate, and not Salvation or any other of s***-quels? Because it's linked to T2 the most.

 

[Vaibow]

I feel like - if they insist on pillaging this franchise, it needs to go back to its roots, sci fi suspense horror, bit like alien.

I had this idea that it was set over one night, in a facility - where a worker makes contact with 'the resistance' over his computer, from the future, like John Titor if you are familiar with the story and warns them of an attack, alas, the attack occurs and the protagonist is guided every step of the way and the plot is that it's the protagonist speaking to himself, from the future.

One man in a secure lab, with a T-800 etc after him, not knowing why.

 

[Deck Rickard]

At this point, I think they just need to bury it. They tried doing something new with it in Salvation and they bungled that horribly, so the next two films were attempts at “returning to Terminator’s roots” or whatever (i.e., a Terminator goes back in time and another person/robot goes back to help the target). One was an abomination and the other underperformed. I think people are just done with this franchise because it doesn’t have anything new to offer.

 

[Da-Scribe]

Eh, they can do something new. I think it’s just a matter of moving away from the narrative they’ve been beating into the ground. Our relationship with technology has changed and the humans good/robots bad thing just doesn’t hold up anymore.

I mentioned this before, but if they revisit this franchise they should move way into the future. Humanity is the dominant species and AI comprises the lower/working class. It’d work as a commentary on capitalism, as you’d have a group of people who were literally designed to be poor. I’d have the Connor descendants basically function as a royal family of sorts, with limited actual influence on politics but a large social presence. Then have one or or some defect and work with AI in order to abolish the system.

Really get into the ugly sides of politics and war, and how those things give rise to extremism that just causes an endless cycle. Would make for a solid series imo.

 

[-JKR-]

The biggest achievement of Dark Fate: it made me like T2 a bit less. Sort of Star Wars effect. Sequels get progressively worse and worse, and the more they draw from the classics, they just wear them down. And why specifically Dark Fate, and not Salvation or any other of s***-quels? Because it's linked to T2 the most.

I don't get this effect at all, with any sequels of any franchise. Bad sequels have never impacted my judgement of the movies I like or love. And there are many bad sequels to great movies.
But to each their own.

 

[OutOfBoose]

I mentioned this before, but if they revisit this franchise they should move way into the future. Humanity is the dominant species and AI comprises the lower/working class. It’d work as a commentary on capitalism, as you’d have a group of people who were literally designed to be poor. I’d have the Connor descendants basically function as a royal family of sorts, with limited actual influence on politics but a large social presence. Then have one or or some defect and work with AI in order to abolish the system.

Really get into the ugly sides of politics and war, and how those things give rise to extremism that just causes an endless cycle. Would make for a solid series imo.

Where's "terminator" in this?

 

[OutOfBoose]

I don't get this effect at all, with any sequels of any franchise. Bad sequels have never impacted my judgement of the movies I like or love. And there are many bad sequels to great movies.
But to each their own.

I didn't get it until I got it.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

If they want to carry on I say go for it as I love this franchise and have since I could walk as a toddler.

However, lower the budget and give it a good 10 years.

 

[Iceman]

I don’t think it’s impossible to recapture the magic of the first two films. No one’s really got close so far though.

 

[Da-Scribe]

Where's "terminator" in this?

Well obviously with a war comes terminators.

 

[Vaibow]

Eh, they can do something new. I think it’s just a matter of moving away from the narrative they’ve been beating into the ground. Our relationship with technology has changed and the humans good/robots bad thing just doesn’t hold up anymore.

I mentioned this before, but if they revisit this franchise they should move way into the future. Humanity is the dominant species and AI comprises the lower/working class. It’d work as a commentary on capitalism, as you’d have a group of people who were literally designed to be poor. I’d have the Connor descendants basically function as a royal family of sorts, with limited actual influence on politics but a large social presence. Then have one or or some defect and work with AI in order to abolish the system.

Really get into the ugly sides of politics and war, and how those things give rise to extremism that just causes an endless cycle. Would make for a solid series imo.

I like this idea, but, don't even promote it as a terminator movie, like it's its own thing entirely - only towards the end, is the twist revealed that it is set in the 'terminator' time line. Bit like cloverfield and that Jon Goodman sequel.

We have a dystopian, Bladerunner style world where a horrible war once happened, but humans are back on top and have it come full circle with the hunter became the hunted almost.

I don't get this effect at all, with any sequels of any franchise. Bad sequels have never impacted my judgement of the movies I like or love. And there are many bad sequels to great movies.
But to each their own.

It doesn't effect the first two, for me, I can just ignore it - maybe watching T2 I know what is around the corner maybe... but apart from that, I'm ok with it. It's like winning a race, you don't care what comes after.

Where's "terminator" in this?

Surely you can see how it can be applied.