Terminator: Genisys - Part 8

[Schlosser85]

I don't see how they could write a sequel to Genisys. It seems like they wrote themselves into a corner with the Happily Ever After Farm Life.

At least Sarah and Kyle could live together finally BUT . . . that wasn't really Sarah & Kyle plus their brief romance was one of the more effectively tragic things in the Terminator mythology

Sarah Connor and Kyle Reese weren't in Terminator Genisys.

 

[JtheDreamer]

Paramount has officially pulled the Genisys sequel from their release schedule and has given it's former release date (May 19, 2017) to the Baywatch film.

http://deadline.com/2016/01/terminator-2-pulled-off-schedule-paramount-1201687034/

 

[TheVileOne]

Paramount has officially pulled the Genisys sequel from their release schedule and has given it's former release date (May 19, 2017) to the Baywatch film.

http://deadline.com/2016/01/terminator-2-pulled-off-schedule-paramount-1201687034/

Studios setting hopeful release dates for sequels to films that aren't tracking well means nothing at the end of the day.

 

[C. Lee]

what kind of alcohol / drugs were necessary to achieve this?

None what so ever. I have a rare superpower....I can like or dislike something by only using my brain....don't need no drugs or alcohol to chemically change my brain....I simply watch it, and my brain decides if I like it or not. A funny thing about it too....if others don't agree with my opinion, life goes on without a glitch.....I don't tell them they are wrong for not agreeing with me, because it is MY opinion and I know that not everyone will ever agree with it......Oh, I know....that seems strange around here....but it can happen.

 

[GR8GODZILLAGOD]

Paramount has officially pulled the Genisys sequel from their release schedule and has given it's former release date (May 19, 2017) to the Baywatch film.

http://deadline.com/2016/01/terminator-2-pulled-off-schedule-paramount-1201687034/

 

[Galactus10]

Sarah Connor and Kyle Reese weren't in Terminator Genisys.

Agreed. I tried to use my brain to believe they were supposed to be the same characters but...Nope.

Recasting classic iconic roles is hard enough but it's not impossible. Emilia Clarke was a WEAK attempt at Sarah and whatever Jai Courtney was trying to do was simply unrecognizable.

Terminator Salvation's setting and aesthetic may have been completely foreign to what fans knew about the future but Anton Yelchin did a believably great job making the fans feel he could have been the young Reese

 

[Alien Anal]

None what so ever. I have a rare superpower....I can like or dislike something by only using my brain....don't need no drugs or alcohol to chemically change my brain....I simply watch it, and my brain decides if I like it or not. A funny thing about it too....if others don't agree with my opinion, life goes on without a glitch.....I don't tell them they are wrong for not agreeing with me, because it is MY opinion and I know that not everyone will ever agree with it......Oh, I know....that seems strange around here....but it can happen.

 

[C. Lee]

I love Herman Munster

 

[Serpico Jones]

Emilia Clarke is really hot. That's all I got.

 

[Alien Anal]

Its quite sad there are more bad Terminator movies than good now.

 

[Elevator Man]

Paramount has officially pulled the Genisys sequel from their release schedule and has given it's former release date (May 19, 2017) to the Baywatch film.

Good. Now maybe this franchise can finally RIP and be left alone.

 

[Thoix]

Its quite sad there are more bad Terminator movies than good now.

 

[Raiden]

Studios setting hopeful release dates for sequels to films that aren't tracking well means nothing at the end of the day.

I for one am glad that there won't be sequels for Fan4tastic and Genisys. FF should go back to Marvel and Terminator needs to bring James Cameron back, since the last good Terminator movie was T2. Just let Cameron do whatever he wants with the franchise, unless he is too absorbed in his oft-delayed Avatar sequels to agree.

 

[Schlosser85]

Cameron has already said he told the story he wanted to tell and moved on.

 

[Raiden]

Cameron has already said he told the story he wanted to tell and moved on.

Then Paramount should deep-six any future sequel instead of eroding the good reputation built by the first two Terminator movies any further.

 

[Fallen Angel]

Cameron is happy to sublet the rights back to any studio ,which is currently at Paramount. He's busy with Avatar 2-50. And we've still got 3 years left before they go back anyway. Who's to say another reboot can't happen?

 

[Scarlet Spider]

Cameron is happy to sublet the rights back to any studio which is currently at Paramount. He's busy with Avatar 2-50. And we've still got 3 years left before they go back anyway. Who's to say another reboot can't happen?

Cameron has never said no such thing. He even said once he retains the rights, he'll make sure a remake never happens. This was their last chance to milk the property before they loose the rights. There's no way in hell they'll invest in another film now, not only after Genisys' failure but with the rights going back to Cameron in 2/3 years.

 

[Fallen Angel]

Cameron has never said no such thing. He even said once he retains the rights, he'll make sure a remake never happens. This was their last chance to milk the property before they loose the rights. There's no way in hell they'll invest in another film now, not only after Genisys' failure but with the rights going back to Cameron in 2/3 years.

I remember reading him saying that once he got it back he'd be happy to lease it to someone else if they came up with a good idea or something along those lines. And he's getting paid anyway. He's not making another Terminator film for a long time if ever again.

 

[Scarlet Spider]

I remember reading him saying that once he got it back he'd be happy to lease it to someone else if they came up with a good idea or something along those lines. And he's getting paid anyway.

Nope, he's never said such a thing. Trust me.

 

[Fallen Angel]

Nope, he's never said such a thing. Trust me.

Ah you could be right. I read it on here where the article states that he COULD do that but that was the writers interpretation.
http://www.slashfilm.com/james-cameron-regains-terminator-rights-in-2019/

Realistically, is James Cameron likely to do another Terminator movie? Not at all. But he could license the rights back to Ellison and/or Paramount, especially if the new film(s) work well. He could give them to someone else, or just let it be. That’s six years away, and a lot can happen in that time.

 

[Bruce Malone]

Cameron has already said he told the story he wanted to tell and moved on.

I've said this before but the franchise itself was Cameron's alone. It was literally birthed from a dream he had.

Once he left that should have been the end of it.

 

[Scarlet Spider]

There's more to the story in regards to Cameron and the rights. He and Fox tried to regain the rights to the franchise in 1997, during Carolco's bankruptcy auction but where beaten when the previous owners got to them first. There was a lot of bad blood, after that.

 

[Serpico Jones]

I've said this before but the franchise itself was Cameron's alone. It was literally birthed from a dream he had.

Once he left that should have been the end of it.

It was birthed from him reading a lot of Harlan Ellison.

 

[Scarlet Spider]

I've said this before but the franchise itself was Cameron's alone. It was literally birthed from a dream he had.

Once he left that should have been the end of it.

Agreed, fully.

The problem is unless the creative team has a legal stake/ownership in the IP, Hollywood will always milk a valuable IP, until it's worthless.

There's been a few examples where that hasn't happened like Back to the Future or Ghostbusters, or Star Wars/Indy (when Lucas held ownership over his creations) but again, it's few and far between.

It's usually, when the creative teams control the rights of the IP and can block sequels from happening. That's extremely rare.

 

[Scarlet Spider]

It was birthed from him reading a lot of Harlan Ellison.

That's like saying Lucas ripped Star Wars off of Flash Gordon or Kurosawa. Did Harlan Ellison create Sarah and John Connor, Kyle Reese, Skynet, or anything that has anything to do with the Terminator mythology? Ellison has a history of being notoriously litigious.