Terminator Salvation: Review Central

[Caped Crusader]

Who's gonna let Rotten Tomatoes, ruin this movie for them.

Not me. t:

 

[kedrell]

I was just using it as an example that T3 wasn't all that poorly received. T4 will be lucky to do that well critically and WOM-wise from all indications.

 

[Solidus]

Hmm, I'm not so sure. T3 still sits quite well in the high 70% range. Well below Cameron's films but still pretty high.

I don't mean on RT. RT is not always the most accurate way to review movies. I mean T3 was cheesy and corny with zero character development. And just a clone of the originals. So to me that shows it does not always work.

I meant personally.

 

[thejon93]

Hmm, I'm not so sure. T3 still sits quite well in the high 70% range. Well below Cameron's films but still pretty high.

I really do hate the immediate hate that 'T3' gets from some people. I love how no other movie matters, and 'T3' is immediately the worst on the list. It's undoubtably the worst of the 'Terminator' movies (so far), but come on. It's still a pretty entertaining movie, and one that I can (personally) pop in at any time to enjoy.

 

[kedrell]

I really do hate the immediate hate that 'T3' gets from some people. I love how no other movie matters, and 'T3' is immediately the worst on the list. It's undoubtably the worst of the 'Terminator' movies (so far), but come on. It's still a pretty entertaining movie, and one that I can (personally) pop in at any time to enjoy.

I completely agree.

 

[krec99]

this movie cant be any worst than wolverine .....

 

[thejon93]

this movie cant be any worst than wolverine .....

Nothing that an adamantium bullet can't solve.

 

[Caped Crusader]

Terminator Salvation -
" This isn’t storytelling, it’s programming -- inorganic matter passing for life."
— New York Magazine

The Dark Knight -
" The Dark Knight is noisy, jumbled, and sadistic." — New York Magazine

Friday the 13th (09) -
" You really have to screw it up to dishonor the memory of a movie as s****y as the original Friday the 13th. Heads should roll." — New York Magazine

Watchmen -
" They’ve made the most reverent adaptation of a graphic novel ever. But this kind of reverence kills what it seeks to preserve. The movie is embalmed."
— New York Magazine

Spoiler

Star Trek -
" If you care about this universe (and I do, damn it), you won’t sit passively through J.J. Abrams’s restart Trek. You’ll marvel at the smarts and wince at the senselessness. You’ll nitpick it to death and thrill to it anyway." — New York Magazine

 

[kedrell]

I don't mean on RT. RT is not always the most accurate way to review movies. I mean T3 was cheesy and corny with zero character development. And just a clone of the originals. So to me that shows it does not always work.

I meant personally.

This is true. But I can't think of a single major big-budget release that scored in the 80-100% range on RT that didn't also click with general audiences as well. Outside that range, then yeah, there are films that scored decently with critics but the audiences were cool to them(SR) or films that critics didn't care much for yet audiences ate them up(TF).

 

[Solidus]

I really do hate the immediate hate that 'T3' gets from some people. I love how no other movie matters, and 'T3' is immediately the worst on the list. It's undoubtably the worst of the 'Terminator' movies (so far), but come on. It's still a pretty entertaining movie, and one that I can (personally) pop in at any time to enjoy.

I've never said that. There have been many times I've defended T3 to a point. I have said compared to the other T-movies it had a collection of flaws. And some very serious ones for the Terminator mythology.

Yet, to me if this film does make enough money...I wonder if they will let Nolan fully write the second one? To me the only thing I admit that worried me at first was the idea of Brancato and Ferris.

But still I have yet to see the film.

 

[craigdbfan]

To hell with New York Magazine I say.

 

[kedrell]

Terminator Salvation -
" This isn’t storytelling, it’s programming -- inorganic matter passing for life."
— New York Magazine

The Dark Knight -
" The Dark Knight is noisy, jumbled, and sadistic." — New York Magazine

Friday the 13th (09) -
" You really have to screw it up to dishonor the memory of a movie as s****y as the original Friday the 13th. Heads should roll." — New York Magazine

Watchmen -
" They’ve made the most reverent adaptation of a graphic novel ever. But this kind of reverence kills what it seeks to preserve. The movie is embalmed."
— New York Magazine

Spoiler

Star Trek -
" If you care about this universe (and I do, damn it), you won’t sit passively through J.J. Abrams’s restart Trek. You’ll marvel at the smarts and wince at the senselessness. You’ll nitpick it to death and thrill to it anyway." — New York Magazine

Yeah, that guy from the New York Magazine is one of the poorer quality reviewers, IMO. I think he also gave Iron Man a bad review. Not sure what he said about Star Trek.

 

[Caped Crusader]

Yeah, that guy from the New York Magazine is one of the poorer quality reviewers, IMO. I think he also gave Iron Man a bad review. Not sure what he said about Star Trek.

Click the spoiler lol

 

[Caped Crusader]

Total Film, gave TS a great review

Screw the rest

 

[Nina7]

He gave Twilight a positive review. He found it "enjoyable." I tried watching it with my sister and I couldn't finish. It was not enjoyable.

 

[thejon93]

I've never said that. There have been many times I've defended T3 to a point. I have said compared to the other T-movies it had a collection of flaws. And some very serious ones for the Terminator mythology.

Yet, to me if this film does make enough money...I wonder if they will let Nolan fully write the second one? To me the only thing I admit that worried me at first was the idea of Brancato and Ferris.

But still I have yet to see the film.

I wasn't talking to you, mate. I wasn't talking to anyone, in particular. I was refering to some who simply hate the movie to death over the little things it does wrong.

I think that Nolan's full involvement on the next film will be there in full-force. Bale doesn't want his name attached to what people would consider a "bad movie". Afterall, he was sitting right there in the editing-room with McG to make sure that he didn't turn the film into some disaster.

 

[craigdbfan]

Click the spoiler lol

Is it the same reviewer? Or different critics but same publication?

 

[Nina7]

It's the same reviewer. It's David Edelstein.

 

[Etienne]

Your acting as if there is only one clip. You can actually detect good/bad editing from clips if your familiar with the process. The way a certain scene transitions or is cut can vary from smooth to jarring.

You didn't answer my question. How can you determine a movie's pace by looking at short 1 to 2 minute clips? One thing the few reviews that are out have said is that the pacing in this movie is a strength worth mentioning.

 

[kedrell]

Click the spoiler lol

Ah, I missed that. Ok so he's given a bad review to the top 3 highest rated live action blockbusters of the last couple of years. How can anyone take what he says seriously?

 

[craigdbfan]

You didn't answer my question. How can you determine a movie's pace by looking at short 1 to 2 minute clips? One thing the few reviews that are out have said is that the pacing in this movie is a strength worth mentioning.

I guess "pacing" isn't the right word. My mistake on that. The rough almost non sensical editing at parts and certain choices in direction is what bothered me from the clips.

 

[Caped Crusader]

And the reason I posted his Friday the 13th review is because he crapped on the original

 

[thejon93]

And the reason I posted his Friday the 13th review is because he crapped on the original

But... the original was crap. It was basically just a cheap cash-in on the horror franchise; that begun with 'Halloween'.

 

[Caped Crusader]

He prolly would have crapped on that too

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

But... the original was crap. It was basically just a cheap cash-in on the horror franchise; that begun with 'Halloween'.

Exactly.

I think people need to calm down a little bit...it's just a movie. I mean things could be worse your father could be acting like a complete A-hole.