Terminator Salvation: Review Central

[batmop]

I'm actually right maybe you should do a little bit more research on the subject. Brancato and Ferris are credited for writing the script and I'm aware that Haggis,Nolan,Zuckier, and Ryan all worked on rewrites but the initial script was written by those two and they are the ones receiving credit for the writing. Obviously those re-writes didn't help much.

Plus the majority of the script still contains most of Brancato and Ferris original story thus them receiving credit and Nolan and Haggis receiving none.

Dig deeper. McG has been quoted several times saying the BULK of the script was re-written by Nolan. The fact that Nolan was not credited has nothing to do with how much work he did on the script. The Brancato and Ferris script had Marcus as the main character in the story and the script was about the journey Marcus takes. Obviously this is not what Salvation is about. Nolan and the others who helped rewrite it made John the main character instead of Marcus, and also put more focus on Skynet as well as the creation of the T-800. The whole T-800 sub-plot barely even existed in the original Brancato and Ferris draft.

Also the fact remains that Bale wanted NOTHING to do with the movie when he read the Brancato and Ferris original draft, so obviously the rewrites DID help, enough to convince Bale to do the movie.

 

[craigdbfan]

-double post-

 

[Carnotaur3]

Dig deeper. McG has been quoted several times saying the BULK of the script was re-written by Nolan. The fact that Nolan was not credited has nothing to do with how much work he did on the script. The Brancato and Ferris script had Marcus as the main character in the story and the script was about the journey Marcus takes. Obviously this is not what Salvation is about. Nolan and the others who helped rewrite it made John the main character instead of Marcus, and also put more focus on Skynet as well as the creation of the T-800. The whole T-800 sub-plot barely even existed in the original Brancato and Ferris draft.

Also the fact remains that Bale wanted NOTHING to do with the movie when he read the Brancato and Ferris original draft, so obviously the rewrites DID help, enough to convince Bale to do the movie.

Actually, from a person who actually read the original draft, the T-800 subplot never even existed in the Brancato/Ferris draft. Yes, the rewrites did help. It was the marcus journey that essentially stayed the same. It was, after all, the compelling part of the original draft anyway.

 

[craigdbfan]

Dig deeper. McG has been quoted several times saying the BULK of the script was re-written by Nolan. The fact that Nolan was not credited has nothing to do with how much work he did on the script. The Brancato and Ferris script had Marcus as the main character in the story and the script was about the journey Marcus takes. Obviously this is not what Salvation is about. Nolan and the others who helped rewrite it made John the main character instead of Marcus, and also put more focus on Skynet as well as the creation of the T-800. The whole T-800 sub-plot barely even existed in the original Brancato and Ferris draft.

Also the fact remains that Bale wanted NOTHING to do with the movie when he read the Brancato and Ferris original draft, so obviously the rewrites DID help, enough to convince Bale to do the movie.

In guidance with WGA rules Brancato and Ferris still get credited as the writers for the script. All these "facts" your referring to are just statements from McG who has done nothing but tried boasting the Nolan "re-write" to add publicity to this movie while going to the lengths of picking a fight with Bay on who has bigger robots in their respective films and he took it to new levels by challenging him to a penis measuring contest which he had to foolishly take back because Bay didn't respond to his silly proposition (no joke; Article).

I'll take WGA word over McG any day.

 

[WVsax27]

a new "fresh" review at RT

http://www.supercalafragalistic.com/terminatorsalvationreview.html

makes it pretty clear this is just a fun movie, but he was also a fan that saw T1 in the theaters.

 

[xwolverine2]

any video/audio reviews out?

 

[batmop]

Actually, from a person who actually read the original draft, the T-800 subplot never even existed in the Brancato/Ferris draft. Yes, the rewrites did help. It was the marcus journey that essentially stayed the same. It was, after all, the compelling part of the original draft anyway.

Well there you go. So it's fair to say that Nolan and the others were the ones that added

In guidance with WGA rules Brancato and Ferris still get credited as the writers for the script. All these "facts" your referring to are just statements from McG who has done nothing but tried boasting the Nolan "re-write" to add publicity to this movie while going to the lengths of picking a fight with Bay on who has bigger robots in their respective films and he took it to new levels by challenging him to a penis measuring contest which he had to foolishly take back because Bay didn't respond to his silly proposition (no joke; Article).

I'll take WGA word over McG any day.

. If you don't want to believe the facts, that is your perogative. Jonah Nolan by the way confirmed himself he worked on the script.

Since you seem to really love WGA's word, by WGA rules Nolan COULD NOT be credited for the script, even though he worked on it.

I'll take Bale's word over anyone else in this. Let me say it one more time, Bale REFUSED to do the movie after reading the Brancato and Ferris original draft. Bale AGREED to do the movie after reading the rewritten script that Nolan and the others had worked on. This is not just McG talking here, but Bale confirmed this as well.

 

[bullets]

Bale should opt out if this thing underperforms. I thought taking this role was a big mistake for his career. He works best when he is well directed.

This won't hurt Bale.

 

[batmop]

*IF* they had actually gone with the original Brancato and Ferris draft, Marcus would have been the main character, the movie would have been about him and there would be no Skynet/T-800 sub-plot. As a Terminator movie it would have been a disaster.

 

[Carnotaur3]

*IF* they had actually gone with the original Brancato and Ferris draft, Marcus would have been the main character, the movie would have been about him and there would be no Skynet/T-800 sub-plot. As a Terminator movie it would have been a disaster.

Well, reading the reviews, it looks like Marcus was still kind of the main character of the movie. Which is fine. Connor and Marcus sharing screen together is okay by me.

Also, if you have any questions on what the differences between the movie and the original script just shoot away.

 

[xwolverine2]

ew 25% on RT

 

[CELTICPRED]

It's getting better. I'll take a look at them tomorrow night.

 

[WVsax27]

http://www.kansascity.com/710/story/1204151.html

2 stars

Peter from Slashfilm just tweeted..

# Saw Terminator Salvation, was as good and bad as expected, enjoyed it. Some really cool action sequences and imagery, better than T3 24 minutes ago from Tweetie

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

http://www.kansascity.com/710/story/1204151.html

2 stars

Peter from Slashfilm just tweeted..

# Saw Terminator Salvation, was as good and bad as expected, enjoyed it. Some really cool action sequences and imagery, better than T3 24 minutes ago from Tweetie

I'm disappointed that Bryce doesn't have a bigger role in this. And Bloodgood has been bland in the things I've seen her in so I'd be shocked if she were decent in it.

I'm still hoping that it is just critics b**ching about nothing when it comes to C-Bale's performance because I don't want to see a rehash of his Batman performance in this film.

 

[WVsax27]

more from Twitter land....apparently Harry Knowles hated it.

 

[Nina7]

Harry Knowles? Do people still care what he thinks? Well, if he hated it, I'll probably love it.

 

[WVsax27]

I don't care what anyone thinks, just passing on information

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

more from Twitter land....apparently Harry Knowles hated it.

I f**king hate Twitter for some reason.

 

[Spade]

Twitter comes off as the brand of obnoxious self-adoration I'd usually expect from Apple fanboys brought to life.

Knowles seems to have really hated this. I can't repost his last Twitter blurb, but it involves tearing into the film so hard he'll render it a eunuch.

 

[Carnotaur3]

Twitter comes off as the brand of obnoxious self-adoration I'd usually expect from Apple fanboys brought to life.

Knowles seems to have really hated this. I can't repost his last Twitter blurb, but it involves tearing into the film so hard he'll render it a eunuch.

Knowles

 

[Spade]

I tend to take what Ebert and Knowles say with caution, as I do with all critics, but he seemed pretty positive about the film barring the original ending. His reaction is a pretty big 180 for a guy who enjoyed films like Hulk and Spider-Man 3 (or maybe he didn't...Harry Knowles is very revisionist in his opinions...).

 

[Carnotaur3]

I tend to take what Ebert and Knowles say with caution, as I do with all critics, but he seemed pretty positive about the film barring the original ending. His reaction is a pretty big 180 for a guy who enjoyed films like Hulk and Spider-Man 3 (or maybe he didn't...Harry Knowles is very revisionist in his opinions...).

They are both sketchy. But I still like Ebert even when he's wrong. Something tells me he might like the film though.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I've never cared for Siskel or Ebert or Roper for that matter.

 

[WVsax27]

I always like Ebert, I think he is a good writer. Even when he seems totally out of line with his thoughts on a movie, he normally does a good job of explaining himself.

 

[Spade]

They are both sketchy. But I still like Ebert even when he's wrong. Something tells me he might like the film though.

Same here. Ebert may be an old curmudgeon sometimes, but he's a lot more articulate when he's raving than most other critics.