Terminator Salvation: Review Central

[Kane52630]

Haha yeah I brought that up in my first reactions coming back from seeing it

I stretched back in my seat when that finger was getting closer to John Yikes

wow talk about detail, ill give some props to McG, i didnt even see that in T1

 

[Kent]

That's because it's from T2.

 

[JaD]

wow talk about detail, ill give some props to McG, i didnt even see that in T1

Actually I'm pretty sure that was in T2 As soon as I saw him get cut on the face, I thought "Not too shabby McG, not too shabby"

 

[Kane52630]

oh, yea, man i havent seen T2 in a long time
i cant wait until amazon lower the Skynet edition on Bluray so i can buy it

 

[bullets]

oh, yea, man i havent seen T2 in a long time
i cant wait until amazon lower the Skynet edition on Bluray so i can buy it

i think that are having a fathers day sale soon enough

 

[Kane52630]

yea, im eying on that

 

[victor hugo]

I didn't say the desire to compel and inspire was pretentious...I said the intent to purposelly compel and inspire is pretentious. If a filmmaker declares "I will compel and inspire people with this film" ...yeah, that sounds pretty pretentious to me.

you actually said neither of those things. what you said was this

...filmakers do not make a film with the focal priority of doing these things (unless they’re really that pretentious about the film they’ve made).

The main goal and base foundation of every film is simply to entertain…and if you’re affected on a deeper level along the way so be it.

whether its an "intent to purposely" or a desire to do the same, i really see little difference. You said the main goal and base foundation of every film is to entertain and concerning everything else: "so be it". and that is what i disagree with. again, mediocre filmakers seek merely to entertain while great ones strive to do much more.

and you must have missed the part where i said great ones can do both. of course cameron saught to entertain us. but if that is all he did we would not be discussing his films 20 years later.

and furthermore, i still disagree that an artist (of any kind) who intends to compel and inspire is pretentious. if he succeeds i would instead say he is a great artist and if he fails he is not.

finally you are of course entitled to your opinion and i am entitled to disagree.

lets just move on shall we?

 

[TheVileOne]

If the main idea for a movie is to entertain, and TS tanks, then I would say that Terminator Salvation fails miserably.

 

[Matt]

Yeah I feel really bad for Common in this movie though. I can't imagine him watching the final cut and going "Well this was worthy of my time. Hey, at least I got to buttstroke an Aussie" He had what? 3 lines of dialogue? "My brother?" "For my brother *gunshot to strung up Marcus*" "You wanted to see me Captain?" "She made her choice. *shoots bazooka*"

I'm sure it was worth his time for one reason.

Spoiler

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[K.B.]

Just saw this and it was ...well it was better then T3 and I'd give this 3 out of 5.

Despite it's flaws I was really into it up until Bloodgood and Marcus take off, then it just went downhill.

Just a few odds and ends:

Writers really should have done some research and not had so many glaring problems/mistakes/plotholes. And I hate the excuse of "well it's an alternate timeline". Sorry I don't buy it.

Kyle seemed like a real sissy most of the time. How exactly does he become the great soldier we see glimpses of in the human transport? It's to big a jump in character.

The opening with Marcus shouldnt have happened and it should have been a secret Marcus is a terminator so it comes as a shock to us as much as the humans. Remember when movies use to do that?

Marcus was a great character though and one of the most interesting things in this film. (Anyone else catch his aussie accent going in and out?)

Way to many nods to the previous films (every final confrontation happens in an industrial site? Really?) and while it was cool to see how John got his scars...there is no way in HELL he would accept a "Terminator" heart. I just don't buy it and I'm surprised more people haven't complained about this.

There is so much anger, hate and just vile bitter venomus bile John Connor has towards the machines that no matter what, he wouldn't ever accept it, thus in a sense becoming a machine himself. I liken it to those hardcore racists who, even in the face of certain death, wouldn't accept a blood transfusion from the opposing races.

 

[Wiseman]

I'm sure it was worth his time for one reason.

Spoiler

$$$

You might say he had a "common" reason.

I bet his balance at the bank certainly isn't "common"

I wonder if appearances by him are going to be more "common" in the sequel.



Ok, well I tryed. Didn't seem to work out as well as I'd hoped

 

[Lando81]

I'm really purplexed by the bad reviews. It's not nearly as bad as most reviews make it out to be.

 

[Kane52630]

yea i caught his accent, i just pretend that Marcus Wright was raised in Australia and moved to America

 

[Kane52630]

You might say he had a "common" reason.

I bet his balance at the bank certainly isn't "common"

I wonder if appearances by him are going to be more "common" in the sequel.



Ok, well I tryed. Didn't seem to work out as well as I'd hoped

Failed!

 

[The Dark Defender]

There is so much anger, hate and just vile bitter venomus bile John Connor has towards the machines that no matter what, he wouldn't ever accept it, thus in a sense becoming a machine himself. I liken it to those hardcore racists who, even in the face of certain death, wouldn't accept a blood transfusion from the opposing races.

Well he did develop a friendship with one in T2, and he'd have to be one of the most superbly selfish people ever born to refuse it knowing what his destiny was.

 

[Gilpesh]

Remember when movies use to do that?

Like T2 where it completely surprised everyone that Arnold wasn't the bad guy?

 

[K.B.]

Well he did develop a friendship with one in T2, and he'd have to be one of the most superbly selfish people ever born to refuse it knowing what his destiny was.

Because his future self re programed it. Its not as if the Terminator became good of its own choice.

 

[Kane52630]

yea if you saw TS you'll see how they do it

 

[Doctor Jones]

Just saw this and it was ...well it was better then T3 and I'd give this 3 out of 5.

Despite it's flaws I was really into it up until Bloodgood and Marcus take off, then it just went downhill.

Just a few odds and ends:

Writers really should have done some research and not had so many glaring problems/mistakes/plotholes. And I hate the excuse of "well it's an alternate timeline". Sorry I don't buy it.

Kyle seemed like a real sissy most of the time. How exactly does he become the great soldier we see glimpses of in the human transport? It's to big a jump in character.

The opening with Marcus shouldnt have happened and it should have been a secret Marcus is a terminator so it comes as a shock to us as much as the humans. Remember when movies use to do that?

Marcus was a great character though and one of the most interesting things in this film. (Anyone else catch his aussie accent going in and out?)

Way to many nods to the previous films (every final confrontation happens in an industrial site? Really?) and while it was cool to see how John got his scars...there is no way in HELL he would accept a "Terminator" heart. I just don't buy it and I'm surprised more people haven't complained about this.

There is so much anger, hate and just vile bitter venomus bile John Connor has towards the machines that no matter what, he wouldn't ever accept it, thus in a sense becoming a machine himself. I liken it to those hardcore racists who, even in the face of certain death, wouldn't accept a blood transfusion from the opposing races.

BUt this is what makes him human and that he's a good hearted person. Even though he's intolerant of the machines, he learns that Marcus has proved ot be more than one. He has shown he is human in his acts.

 

[hitmanyr2k]

Like T2 where it completely surprised everyone that Arnold wasn't the bad guy?

Ummmm, if anyone saw the T2 trailer in theaters (and in TV spots) you already knew Arnold was the good guy. It was mentioned in the trailer that he was sent back to protect John this time around. No reason for T2 to hide it.

 

[The Dark Defender]

Because his future self re programed it. Its not as if the Terminator became good of its own choice.

Yeah, like Marcus did for example...

He had a choice between being a soulless machine and being human, and he proved to Connor that his choice was the latter.

 

[K.B.]

BUt this is what makes him human and that he's a good hearted person. Even though he's intolerant of the machines, he learns that Marcus has proved ot be more than one. He has shown he is human in his acts.

Sorry man I just don't see it or buy it especially when we have the line that sums it up PERFECTLY

"You killed my mother. You killed my father. But you WILL NOT kill ME!"

Ummmm, if anyone saw the T2 trailer in theaters you already knew Arnold was the good guy. It was mentioned in the trailer that he was sent back to protect John this time around. No reason for T2 to hide it.

Exactly.

 

[The Dark Defender]

Except of course for the fact that it was soulless machines that killed them...not someone that was physically as much human as machine, and emotionally chose humanity...

You can not buy it all you want, but it makes perfect sense. I wouldn't buy the savior of makind allowing mankind to perish because he's such a selfish bastard that refuses to accept a heart transplant from someone willing to give us his for the same cause that John was fighting for.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Sorry man I just don't see it or buy it especially when we have the line that sums it up PERFECTLY

"You killed my mother. You killed my father. But you WILL NOT kill ME!"

Uhhhh... people can change?

 

[JaD]

Ummmm, if anyone saw the T2 trailer in theaters (and in TV spots) you already knew Arnold was the good guy. It was mentioned in the trailer that he was sent back to protect John this time around. No reason for T2 to hide it.

They were keeping it under wraps for the most part, and I think it's safe to say a handful of uninformed audience members went in not knowing who was supposed to do what and who was after who. Just Arnold is a Terminator again etc.