Terminator: Salvation - The NEW new thread

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I'm in the minoritiy but I certainly hope that JC doesn't waste ten years of his life making a sequel to a medicore movie.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Terminator's a bigger franchise, it's supposed to do better. Star Trek didn't have the expectation of Terminator.

Yeah.......thats pretty much what I said, Terminator cost more and had more bankable stars in the cast.

 

[amazingfantasy15]

Man, after seeing Avatar it saddens me greatly that Cameron has no desire to go back to the franchise in it's current state.

While I'd love to see Cameron's vision of the Terminator universe post Judgement Day, I think he's said all he wants to in the franchise, they really do need to just end things though, let it die because no one has come close to matching him in the franchise.

 

[blueblazer2]

I still don't understand why people are complaining about the pg-13 rating . The previous 3 Terminator movies were borderline Rated R movies . The violence and cursing is very mild compared to most Rated R movies .

 

[CELTICPRED]

Please don't bring that up again.

 

[Team Andino]

I liked Terminator Salvation an I recently picked up the Director's Cut at Target and rewatched it and I gotta say I enjoyed it a little more then I did when I saw it in theaters. It's nowhere near perfect but I'm happy with it

 

[Nightmare]

Director's cut with 3 extra minutes?

 

[Team Andino]

Director's cut with 3 extra minutes?

Your being far to nice it's more like 1.5 minutes

 

[dark_b]

Your being far to nice it's more like 1.5 minutes

 

[GoldGoblin]

Seems like Avatar 2 has no where to go story wise,I think Cameron can't make another good Terminator movie,or another good Avatar movie,cause there is nowhere for the movies to go.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I havent seen Avatar so cant comment but there are plenty of places a Terminator sequel could go.

 

[Carnotaur3]

Possible list of scenes cut from Terminator Salvation.

A Lot of it...


http://terminatornewsnetwork.wordpr...alvation-extensive-cut-footage-list/#more-556

1: We have a scene of the Priest walking up to Marcus cell along with dialogue (probably reading from the Bible etc.)
2: Opening narration with John Connor (most likely some decent explanation on this future, and how this future came to be and what’s going on now. Odds are this was replaced by the text introduction.)
3: A conversation between Connor and Jericho before Connor hooks his line and jumps down the hole like a suicidal lemming. (Because of this scene being cut the only time we see him is dead.)
4: A small conversation in the flooded tunnel between the soldiers before the T-1 Attacks.
5: A shot of the soldiers in the silo (and perhaps civilians) before Skynet blows the place. (Whilst we experience the amazing first helicopter flight and crash.)
6: Connor getting picked up at the recovery zone by the Osprey, he greets a number of soldiers.
7: Extended conversation between Ashdown and Connor (subjects included are T-800’s and Sarah Connor.)
8: Back at H.Q. John and Kate sharing some downtime in bed talking about Kyle and again the coming T-800’s.
9: Some dialogue between Kyle and Marcus at the Griffith Observatory was cut.
10: Marcus dream that night, fast cuts of Serena and Surgeons. (This reminds me of the flashbacks of Marcus being made into a Hybrid from the 2006 draft.)
11: Marcus is asleep and when he wakes up finds Star draped across him. He gets up without disturbing her and begins to pull parts out of various cars.
12: Len, the hesitant Resistance fighter at the 7-11 gets killed before the Harvester starts grabbing everyone.

13: Conversation between Virginia, Kyle, and Star about Star inside of the Transporter.
14: While they carry Marcus into the operating room after he gets blown up by a mine he has a few snaps of flashbacks being operated on/his heart taken out.
15: There is a small conversation between Blair and Marcus in ventilation shaft before he hits off the man-hole cover.
16: After the conversation with Ashdown over radio in the Airforce base Connor gives Barnes C4 to blow up the comms towers. Connor goes to the short wave radio to start giving his speech to the resistance.
If that’s not enough, the changes become major now, and man is there a lot going on that was cut.
17: There is a HUGE conversation before Connor goes to Skynet. (There’s a very awkward cut in the theatrical release where you can tell something was excised just before John and Kate start to kiss. This was the day Bale had his rant.) This is an important conversation Kate has with John as he is preparing. They talk about how much they love each other and how important they are to one another and about their unborn child.
18: After Marcus gets accepted by the gun turret he climbs the North Wall of Skynet and, he hides in an old church. A Skynet bulldozer comes and knocks it down while running over skulls.
19: As Connor rides the moto-terminator across the bridge, it is revealed that the bridge is blown out in the center and barely holding together. He uses a grappling hook to get across the bridge as the moto-terminator falls into the raging waters below.
20: Marcus makes progress outside Skynet. Sees a bunch of T-600s. Looks up at a building, sees lights on the 5th floor. Sneaks inside.
21: Marcus is on the 5th floor and spots a Hybrid male working at the computer console. He working very fast, busy checking this and that. He spots Marcus and responds to him warmly. Marcus looks at him and throws him out the window, the hybrids’ neck is severed. Marcus then goes to the console.
There’s a great difference now in this next scene.
22: When Marcus is done at the console we hear Serena say Hello to Marcus. Serena is a Hybrid and in person. She has a personal T-800 that places Marcus in the chair. Their conversation is not all that different from the one you hear in the movie. Lots more though.
She kisses him. He gets out of the chair and they continue to talk.
Cut to: Different conversation in the submarine with Ashdown. A harvester goes into the water and crushes the ship. We see Ashdown die.
Cut to: Marcus gets mad and goes to kill her and gets knocked away by a robotic arm and thrown by the T-800. Marcus rips out Serenas micro-chip at the back of her neck. The robotic arm then takes her for human and rips her apart.
23: (Might not have been filmed) Connor sneaks into Skynet. He sees everyone being tested on not a pretty picture. He Spots a T-600 and hides. The T-600 looks into an elevator shaft and Connor rigs the Elevator to blow. The elevator comes down and cuts the T-600 in two.
24: After Kyle looks for Star and they find Connor they blow up the wall. Before they go to the terminator factory the hole in the wall actually leads to prisoner holding pens. Connor of course releases the prisoners. They get chased again by the T-800, blow up another wall, see a shaft, then jump down.
25: Kate, Blair and Barnes decide to go after John. Kate grabs a shotgun. (Which reminds me of Bryce saying at Comic-Con she got to shoot a shotgun Sarah Connor Style) They land the helicopter as Kate shoots a T-600. They see all the human prisoners escape. They get Kyle, Star and Virginia and ask where John is. Barnes and two other soldiers go after John. They see Marcus fighting another T-800 after Marcus had been carrying John out. Barnes hands him a machine gun and Marcus kills the T-800.
26: (Alternate Version) We see Barnes and Marcus carrying out Connor. They wonder how to get all the prisoners out of there. They tell Barnes to get out and hotwire the Transporter. Blair has a problem with the rotor from the helicopter. Marcus is able to fix it by holding the ruel line closed by hand. Barnes goes to the transporter. Virginia sacrifices herself.
27: As Barnes is getting everyone into the Transporter a Harvester comes. Marcus spots it and uses the Helicopter Gun to shoot the Harvester while in Terminator mode.
28: Kyle buries Marcus while wearing Connors jacket. He reaches into the pocket and takes out the photo of Sarah Connor. Photo morphs back into John. Push away to Soldiers getting into Helicopters. They fly away as the camera heads back down over Marcus’s grave. Fade to black.

 

[Symbiotic]

^Dammit, I knew that there was a good movie hidden in there somewhere.

 

[Kane52630]

^Dammit, I knew that there was a good movie hidden in there somewhere.

i wish they got Cameron to cut it

Terminator Salvation: The James Cameron Cut

 

[BestGirl]

Possible list of scenes cut from Terminator Salvation.

A Lot of it...


http://terminatornewsnetwork.wordpr...alvation-extensive-cut-footage-list/#more-556

Sounds interesting. Why haven't these scenes made in onto DVD yet?

 

[scifiwolf]

Those all sound very legit. I'm all for a 150+ min version with most of that stuff restored. That would really fill in the plot holes and close the gap between this movie and T2 in terms of quality.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

^Nothing will close that gap IMHO.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

^Nothing will close that gap IMHO.

 

[FCEEVIPER]

Those all sound very legit. I'm all for a 150+ min version with most of that stuff restored. That would really fill in the plot holes and close the gap between this movie and T2 in terms of quality.

I really hope we get a Blu-Ray ultimate cut of TS later down the road...

Regardless of how iseespidey feels about the movie.

 

[Deaths Head II]

i wish they got Cameron to cut it

Terminator Salvation: The James Cameron Cut

I'm actually looking forward to a decent fan edit of this film.

Terminator 3: The Coming Storm was more enjoyable to me then the original film.

 

[8wid]

How many movies should their be in the full story of the Terminator franchise? 6?

 

[GothamAlleys]

While Salvation is crippled with some major logical flaws, overall its an ok movie and its certainly heavens better than T3, which is among the most flawed movies ever created, having plotholes, incosistencies and logical problems in EVERY SINGLE SCENE

TS isnt much more than a popcron flick, but im fine with it

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

^Personally, after watching T3 and Ts back-to-back the other day, I found T3 just as enjoyable if not more enjoyable than TS, TS just made too many mistakes for me, the T-600's were all wrong, and there were far too many day time scene's, with full out battle scene's happening in day time when Kyle specifically stated in T1 that daytime was a no go in the future and even at night you had to be careful, and even this was ignored.

I mean, were no HK's or Terminators at all attracted by the amount of noise created by the humans trying to re-capture Marcus? Sorry, but that scene simply shouldnt have happened.

T3 had less mistakes for me when it came to the mythos, and both had just as many mistakes as the other in terms of story-telling, and the ending of T3 was far more powerful than anything we got in TS.

 

[Deaths Head II]

Nice, hopefully one day we can get that version to see.

I still havent seen T3: The Coming Storm, where can i see it?

Go google "fan edits" and you should be able to find it.

 

[Solidus]

While Salvation is crippled with some major logical flaws, overall its an ok movie and its certainly heavens better than T3, which is among the most flawed movies ever created, having plotholes, incosistencies and logical problems in EVERY SINGLE SCENE

TS isnt much more than a popcron flick, but im fine with it

Completely disagree. When I wrote the script for T3.5 years ago with the help from Randy Jennings of TAF, I found plot holes in T3 but nothing as giant as the plot holes that TS had. TS had numerous ones, and huge huge character mess ups that made it feel nothing like Terminator at all. That and it was so unbelievable half the time with the action and so forth it made T3 look a million times better. T3 messed up some of the dates, and John's age *they should have looked more carefully in T2* but over all T3 made way more sense then TS, which in my earlier reviews of the film, there was just too many inconsistencies in TS for me.

Though yes T3 was the safer film that just copied T2 again, but in doing so it had less flaws then what McG tried to create (that and he created the most Forrest Gump version of Skynet ever)

I mean all the action sequences in TS were so over the top, especially with the T-800 at the end. I admit that at times the like with the bathroom sequence in T3 there were some over the top moments, but for the most part it stayed way less away from (near misses) as TS did.

Going through T3 with a fine tooth comb, there are flaws for sure, but not as severe flaws as TS created.