The 10 Best Whedon Characters

[Abaddon]

I'm not sure that really fits. Liam showed major sadistic tendancies right off the bat. Darla didn't nurture that in him. It was already there. He just needed the right trigger (such as being turned into a vampire) to be set off. I do think that regaining his soul did trigger the schism, but as a human it wasn't so much a multiple personality thing as there was a drakness in him that simply needed the proper trigger to come out. With regaining his soul, he regained some of the cinscience and kindness that he lost over his years of mass murder, which caused the schism. Remember, he spent the better part of a century trying to figure out who he was after that, so his brain was probably trying to sort out everything for a good long while before his better atributes became dominant.

I don't remember him being very sadictic.He was a drunken,****ing,ne'er-do-well and a great diappointment to his family.He definitely had some issue with his father,but aside from that I don't think there's any evidence to support he was demented while human.


As for Spike,its clear he doesn't quite fit the mold.Darla,with whatever notion she had of love for Aneglus,still abandoned him when they were being pursued by angry villagers.Spike,on the other hand managed to save Drusilla and helped nurse her back to health.Drusilla too showed loyalty to him.

 

[Lt. Figgnuts]

I really wish they had gone ahead with the BBC Giles spin off, "Ripper"

I would have loved to see that.

 

[The Question]

I don't remember him being very sadictic.He was a drunken,****ing,ne'er-do-well and a great diappointment to his family.He definitely had some issue with his father,but aside from that I don't think there's any evidence to support he was demented while human.

I mean when he became a vampire. The second he rose he was already out with the mass murder and torture. This, I think, suggests that he already had these tendancies as a human and simply needed the right trigger for them to come out.

As for Spike,its clear he doesn't quite fit the mold.Darla,with whatever notion she had of love for Aneglus,still abandoned him when they were being pursued by angry villagers.Spike,on the other hand managed to save Drusilla and helped nurse her back to health.Drusilla too showed loyalty to him.

Spike and Drusilla were truely in love. One of the many differences between him and Angelus.

 

[Abaddon]

I mean when he became a vampire. The second he rose he was already out with the mass murder and torture. This, I think, suggests that he already had these tendancies as a human and simply needed the right trigger for them to come out.

Well,yeah,but that applies to all humans.

 

[The Question]

Not really. Everyone's got some homicidal urges every now and then. Based on how he was mere seconds after he rose a vampire, Liam's must have been alot stronger than most. My guess is, he simply pushed those feelings to the back of his mind, and his siring caused them to come to the surface in a big way.

 

[Harlekin]

Lorne was GAY!?!?!

No. He was ambigious. He made multiple references to fire in his loins when seeing certain hot women (like Cordy) but would just as easily turn around and call Angel 'sweetcakes'. I think Lorne is a largely asexual guy.

 

[GyLocke]

Remember, when the Judge first layed eyes on Dru and Spike he was disgusted, becouse they kept so much of their humanity (the ability to love).
But when he saw Angelus, he couldn't hurt him, becouse there was not a single trait of human emotions left in him.

I think A vampire, needs an anchor, to keep parts of his former self, to not lost completely in their inner demon. Liam didn't have such an anchor, Darla's loyality was for the Master, while Spike was genually in love with Dru. When he lost it, he got the chip. Then, the love for Buffy.

Just like Harmony's anchor was her job at Wolfram and hart.

Liam never had any of that, that's why he become the baddest of the bad.

 

[The Question]

Well, other vampires have possesed no such anchor, and they were nowhere near as bad as Angelus. Way I see it, Spike's retaining his humanity was his choice. It was made easier through Dru, but it was still his choice. I suppose Angelus' extreme sadism is the culmination of many factors.

 

[GyLocke]

I just think other's weren't as talented as Angelus.

 

[The Question]

I don't really think talant has anything to do with it. Not many vampires showed the extreme levels of sadism and cruelty that Angelus did.

 

[Lt. Figgnuts]

No. He was ambigious. He made multiple references to fire in his loins when seeing certain hot women (like Cordy) but would just as easily turn around and call Angel 'sweetcakes'. I think Lorne is a largely asexual guy.

I think the fact that Pylean women were very manly and had beards lends credibility to your argument.