The All New, All Star Batman & Robin Thread!

[Dirt Like Me]

Actually he is.Contrary to what certain folks may want to believe, he has not seperated YO from the rest of his canon.


I've said this before and I'll say it again:Miller has always written Batman consistent to his other work.In YO Batman was a few decibals lower in scale, because he was just starting out.He's found his groove in ASB&R.

I agree with your main point, that Miller has written Batman the same way all the time. Goddamn Batman could very easily age into the Batman we see in DKR; and Year One Batman could trip on his power a little bit and lose himself, becoming the Goddamn Batman. (For example: in Year One he already has a disdain for cops and likes to yell when attacking people; Jim Gordon also referenced a bunch of Year One events in Issue Six).

The fact that Barbara Gordon is involved in Goddamn Batman, without being mentioned in Year One stops me from reading it as a direct continuation, though.

Either way, I'm pretty effing psyched to read the next issue later this week.

 

[silentflute]

The fact that Barbara Gordon is involved in Goddamn Batman, without being mentioned in Year One stops me from reading it as a direct continuation, though.

Funny thing is I asked Frank about that recently-his response was: "Didn't get around to it. That was a pretty tight series."

My first instinct was to agree with you, but I'm now convinced it's just a minor detail.

 

[CrimsonMist]

so my comic shop guy told me the shipping date was pushed back to tomorrow. Something to do with Thanksgiving, he said. So the books should be in then.

I was pissed.

 

[blksuperman2]

so my comic shop guy told me the shipping date was pushed back to tomorrow. Something to do with Thanksgiving, he said. So the books should be in then.

I was pissed.

Mine said the same thing.

 

[squeekness]

I thought it was just my place. Now I don't feel so bad.

 

[Joker]

my place too...to make up for it they had a big sale...10% off new issues, 15% off back issues and Hardcovers, and 25% off of TPBs...I spent $80 and nothing new was even out

 

[CrimsonMist]

got this issue today. Probably my favorite issue yet. Some spoilers so watch out.


Miller's Joker is pretty twisted. He's like a more primal version of DKR Joker. That said, don't expect traditional Joker. Lee's take is different looking than his Joker in Hush. He's much classier looking, though i don't gt what's up with that dragon tattoo that's on the Lee cover(it also shows up in the actual book too). Joker's got something big planned. I can't wait to see what it is.

A lovely but brief cameo by Bruno from DKR, Dick is alot cooler, and it's fun seeing Batman argue with himself. I think we're gonna be seeing Batman tone down his attitude a bit in later issues.

oh, and the confrontation between Bats and Hal Jordon was priceless.

 

[Orko Is King]

Scan the Joker!

 

[CrimsonMist]

Scan the Joker!

EDIT: Nevermind. Here you go. 4 pages worth of Joker.

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Page 4

Page 5

 

[blksuperman2]

I think the tattoo was a nod to the movie "Red Dragon".

 

[JTStarkiller]

HAHA! Gotta love the Editor's Note about a third of the way in....

Spoiler

We can't print Jocko-Boy's response, due to standards of decency. The response demands an anatomical impossibility.

 

[Keyser Soze]

EDIT: Nevermind. Here you go. 4 pages worth of Joker.

Page 1

Page 3

Page 4

Page 5

My God....that is some scary stuff!

I'm thinking this will be the first issue of "All-Star Batman & Robin" I pick up...

 

[Agentsands77]

Huh. Miller has really made every characterization as crazy and outrageous as possible. I thought he was as far gone as it could get, and then he goes and makes the Joker a sexual being... and a good lover, at that. Nuts.

 

[Keyser Soze]

Huh. Miller has really made every characterization as crazy and outrageous as possible. I thought he was as far gone as it could get, and then he goes and makes the Joker a sexual being... and a good lover, at that. Nuts.

Hey, in "The Killing Joke" his wife says he's good in the sack. And Harley must put up with him for SOMETHING, right?

 

[Motown Marvel]

so, what happens in this issue: batman and green lantern plan a date. robin plays dress up. a guy named the joker kills someone.

too bad "the joker" acts nothing like the joker should. he didnt even crack a smile at any point, yet alone laugh.

 

[Agentsands77]

Hey, in "The Killing Joke" his wife says he's good in the sack.

That's right.

And Harley must put up with him for SOMETHING, right?

Honestly, I've always believed that Harley and the Joker have always had an unconsummated relationship. It is my personal opinion (and it was Miller's, previously) that the Joker is an entirely asexual being.

 

[Saint]

so, what happens in this issue: batman and green lantern plan a date. robin plays dress up. a guy named the joker kills someone.

too bad "the joker" acts nothing like the joker should. he didnt even crack a smile at any point, yet alone laugh.

I don't understand this complaint. If you don't like this alternate version of Batman, read the regular version. As with pretty much everyone, I prefer the regular version, so I'm not trying to be a dick, I just don't understand why you would complain about a different version of Batman being different, unless it removed your ability to see a regular version.

Movie complaints are different, obviously, because they're rarer and each "different" Batman movie prevents you from seeing a "real" Batman movie, but that's not the case in comics, with a slew of "real" batbooks coming out every month.

By the same token, I'll never understand why people complain about Ultimate Marvel characters not being like their 616 counterparts. I don't like everything in the Ultimate Universe, so in those cases I read the regular universe. I really don't understand the problem.

 

[CrimsonMist]

so, what happens in this issue: batman and green lantern plan a date. robin plays dress up. a guy named the joker kills someone.

too bad "the joker" acts nothing like the joker should. he didnt even crack a smile at any point, yet alone laugh.

Well, being as how NONE of the characters that have appeared in this book have ever acted like they should, what were you expecting?

And correct me if im wrong, as i don't have it in front of me right now, im pretty sure the Joker doesn't laugh for a good deal of pages in DKR. Sure, he smiles. He smiles once when he sees Batman has come back, but that's the first and only time until later on.

and being as how The Joker is only in the issue for about 5 pages, i'd say give it time. It's obvious that The Joker has something big planned.

It just sucks we have to wait until February for issue 9.

 

[Dirt Like Me]

Well, being as how NONE of the characters that have appeared in this book have ever acted like they should, what were you expecting?

And correct me if im wrong, as i don't have it in front of me right now, im pretty sure the Joker doesn't laugh for a good deal of pages in DKR. Sure, he smiles. He smiles once when he sees Batman has come back, but that's the first and only time until later on.

and being as how The Joker is only in the issue for about 5 pages, i'd say give it time. It's obvious that The Joker has something big planned.

It just sucks we have to wait until February for issue 9.

I thought this Joker was very much a younger version of what we saw in DKR. Which is to say I thought he was pretty awesome. (I wish there were more Miller-penned Joker stories).

I really liked this issue. Just a fun read, like #5 was. I like how Jim Lee toned down the look of his Joker, I like how Robin's early costume looks, and

Spoiler

It's cool to see Lee's take on a younger version of Catwoman, with the more traditional looking, Non-Hush costume, too

And in terms of Goddamn Batman-type ridiculousness:

Spoiler

Bats calling Green Lantern a 'retarted demigod' made me laugh out loud.

Can't wait for Issue #9.

 

[Joker]

Yeah, I cant see how anyone who likes DKR Joker could dislike this Joker...for gods sake, he even has Bruno...if he were wearing a white suit with giant shoulder pads he would have pretty much nothing seperating him from being exactly like DKR Joker...

Also, this issue explains away all the "it's not a sequel to Year One because of Barbra being there, and it not starting with Joker poisoning the water supply" stuff, it's actually Batman's third year on the job...they skipped year two all together.

 

[Joker]

oh by the way, can someone post a good resolution version of the actual cover? all DC's site has is the one in red.

 

[TheDarkKnight_NL]

I'll get mine in the mail in a few hours, I'll post a scan then

 

[TheDarkKnight_NL]

here you go :



if u need it bigger let me know

 

[Cobblepot]

Thanks! Can't wait to get it.

 

[TheDarkKnight_NL]

not much happens (again) but it is a nice setup for the next issue, were it seems there finally is something about to happen in terms of story development, but overall it is a nice issue, Batman 671 was better