The All New and Improved Batman Reboot Casting Thread

Frodo is right.
He gives good examples. Sometimes it works to cast against character but not always. It's risky to do so because it can be a disaster.
But when has it been bad to cast an obvious actor for a role? I can't remember any such case. You need to enlighten me here.
I just think it's too safe and boring. I want the audience to be either surprised, intrigued, or thrown for a whirl. There admittedly IS a bit of a rift between an actor feeling obvious and a super popular choice for the character that everyone and their mother clamors for.

Paul Dano for Riddler and Barry Keoghan for Joker fit the former, but they're still exciting choices to me because they're not as played out as suggestions like James McAvoy for Riddler, Willem Dafoe for Joker, either Mads Mikkelsen or Giancarlo Esposito for Freeze, etc.
 
I just think it's too safe and boring. I want the audience to be either surprised, intrigued, or thrown for a whirl. There admittedly IS a bit of a rift between an actor feeling obvious and a super popular choice for the character that everyone and their mother clamors for.

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The thing is , if we're talking about a general audience, I don't think you'd get that many people who would automatically assume they'd know what they'd get from Chastain as Ivy.

It's basically us in fandom who would come with assumptions about her performance ,since she's a name who's been suggested by those in fandom.

I actually don't think if she were cast that general audiences would come in with a crystalized notion of how she would play Poison Ivy.

GA tend to give actors and actresses alot more leeway than fandom does , and an actress like Chastain isn't a pop culture icon the way Nicholson was when he was cast as Joker , Devito was when he was cast as Penguin, or a pop culture Figure like Ben Affleck or even Robert Pattinson when cast as Batman.

Chastain doesn't come with that type of preconception, so audiences would come to her Ivy with a clean slate.

If Chastain's performance is good, and her character is written well , it's just as likely she could surprise and intrigue audiences just as well as an " outside the box " choice.

Frankly , I wouldn't assume that alot people outside of fandom would think Chastain is an obvious choice for Poison Ivy to begin with.

She seems like an obvious choice to our circles, because she's been brought up alot , but I think if she was cast , the entertainment reporters ,outside of fandom, would point to the variety of roles she's played from The Help, Zero Dark Thirty, the Eyes of Tammy Faye etc., including an Oscar win.

At the end of the day we're all gonna have our own preferences , so I can understand not being into one actor in relation to another.
 
ralph fiennes - mr freeze
michael stuhlberg - hugo strange
nic hoult - hush
 
I'd love to see Christopher Abbott as Harvey Dent/Two Face and Juno Temple as Harleen Quinzel/Harley Quinn.

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My two cents: Andy Garcia and Bobby Cannavale in the Penguin series.

Maybe Garcia as Maroni.
 
As well as Juno Temple, Mia Goth has proved time and time again she'd be a fantastic Harley Quinn.

Just look at this recently released trailer for Infinity Pool.

 
I like the idea of Mia Goth being in the mix with this series, but I’m gonna throw a curve ball and say she shouldn’t be Harley Quinn.

She should be Punchline.
 
I like the idea of Mia Goth being in the mix with this series, but I’m gonna throw a curve ball and say she shouldn’t be Harley Quinn.

She should be Punchline.
Honestly would love a gender swapped Harvey Dent.
 
Taking Olivia Cooke out of consideration for Ivy.

She’s Lois Lane now, or I burn this place to the ground. :o
 
Just had a thought:

Leslie Thompkins

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THE BATMAN
a Matt Reeves universe

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An interconnected universe set within the world of The Batman spanning sequels and spin-off films, as well as HBOMax originals and special features.

MAIN
Bruce Wayne / Batman: Robert Pattinson, 36
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Selina Kyle / Catwoman: Zoë Kravitz, 34
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Commissioner James Gordon: Jeffrey Wright, 57
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Alfred Pennyworth: Andy Serkis, 58
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Dick Grayson / Robin: Jaeden Martell, 19
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MAIN SUPPORTING
Andrea Beaumont: Léa Seydoux, 37
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Senator Lincoln March: Ben Barnes, 41
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District Attorney Harvey Dent: Richard Madden, 36
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Barbara Gordon: Taylor Russell, 28
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Dr. Leslie Thompkins: Sarita Choudhury, 56
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Richard Dragon: Manny Jacinto, 35
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Holly Robinson: Thomasin McKenzie, 22
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Sam ‘Slam’ Bradley:
Christopher Abbott, 36
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Solomon Grundy*:
Dave Bautista, 53
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*Grundy replaces Killer Croc (Earth One) / Harold Allnut as Bruce’s helper in the Batcave. Punishing himself for sins past, “Solomon Grundy” is a recluse living in the abandoned Gotham subway tunnels. Years living underground has paled his complexion.

ROGUES GALLERY
Joker: Barry Keoghan, 30
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Edward Nygma / Riddler: Paul Dano, 38
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Harley Quinn: Anya Taylor-Joy, 26
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Dr. Victor Fries / Mr. Freeze: David Oyelowo, 46
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Lazlo Valentin / Professor Pyg: Jeremy Bobb, 41
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Basil Karlo / Clayface: Rami Malek, 41
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Dr. Jonathan Crane / Scarecrow: Michael Shannon, 48
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Pamela Isley / Poison Ivy:
Elisabeth Moss, 40
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Jervis Tetch / Mad Hatter: Peter Dinklage, 53
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Arnold Wesker / Ventriloquist: Brendan Fraser, 54
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ORGANIZED CRIME
Oz “Penguin” Cobblepot: Colin Farrell, 46
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Carmine “The Roman” Falcone: John Turturro, 65
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Sal “Boss” Maroni: Michael Imperioli, 56
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Rupert Thorne: Brian Cox, 76
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Sofia Falcone Gigante:
Cristin Milloti, 37
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Alberto Falcone: Mike Minghella, 43
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Dr. Gaige / Tiger Shark: Michael Mando, 41
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Eddie Skeevers:
Colman Domingo, 53
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Anthony “Fats” Zucco: Paul Walter Hauser, 36
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GOTHAM CENTRAL PD
Jason Bard: Jovan Adepo, 34
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Det. Renee Montoya: Monica Barbaro, 32
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Det. Harvey Bullock: Joplin Sibtain, 53
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Det. Sarah Essen: Julianne Nicholson, 51
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ADDITIONAL - VILLAINS
Ra’s al Ghul: F. Murray Abraham, 83
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Talia al Ghul: Niv Sultan, 30
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Shiva: HoYeon Jung, 28
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David Cain:
Vincent Regan, 57
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Cameron von Cleer / Killer Moth:
David Dastmalchian, 47
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Garfield Lynns / Firefly: Stephen Dorff, 49
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Eduardo Flamingo: Rodrigo Santoro, 47
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Dr. Jeremiah Arkham: Kevin Bacon, 64
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ADDITIONAL - SUPPORTING
Lucius Fox: Clarke Peters, 70
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Luke Fox: Stephan James, 29
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Vesper Fairchild: Neve Campbell, 49
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Vicki Vale: Riley Keough, 33
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Ted Grant: Laurence Fishburne, 61
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Maggie Kyle (Selina’s sister): Georgina Campbell, 30
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ADDITIONAL - MINOR

Mayor Bella Reál: Jayme Lawson, 25
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Dr. Bartholomew Wolper:
Peter Macdissi, 48
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Gilda Dent: Alison Pill, 37
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Silver St. Cloud: Matilda De Angelis, 27
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Joe Chill: Ebon Moss-Bachrach, 45
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Vesper Fairchild - Keira Knightley
 
I want Kerry Condon to be in these films just don't know what role would fit her
 
I prefer Silver St Cloud played by Haley Bennett

I could see Bennett as Vicki Vale maybe. She’s a great actress.

But I’d prefer someone more international for Silver St. Cloud. My current pick is Matilda De Angelis, 27 from HBO’s The Undoing and Netflix’s Robbing Mussolini:

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Bruce Wayne/Batman- Jamie Dornan
Alfred Pennyworth- Sean Bean
Lucius Fox- Denzel Washington
Bane- Dave Bautista
Dr Jonathan Crane/Scarecrow- Adam Driver
Commissioner James "Jim" Gordon- Bryan Cranston

Ra's Al Ghul- Mads Mikkelsen
Talia Al Ghul- Nina Dobrev


Selina Kyle/Catwoman- Ana de Armas
Harvey Dent/Two Face- Oscar Isaac
Edward Nygma/The Riddler- Miles Teller


Carmine Falcone- Dylan McDermott
Sal Maroni- Bobby Cannavale

The Joker- Bill Skarsgard
Harley Quinn- Samara Weaving


Dick Grayson/Nightwing- Dylan O'Brien

Vicki Vale (Love Interest For Bruce)- Riley Keough


Victor Fries/Mr Freeze- Mark Strong
 

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