The Amazing Spider-Man 2 The Amazing Spider-Man 2 Box Office Prediction Thread - Part 2

[Visualiza]

Or, more likely, make cheap crappy movies until they get offered something substantial to part with the crown jewel of the studio.

It would kill me if this franchise went the way of Resident Evil.

 

[Mysteryman]

A lot would have to happen for me to believe that it was going in that direction .
A LOT.

 

[Donut]

If The Other Woman is #1 & Spidey is lower in the U.S. Then make one of The Sinister Six a woman & give Kate Upton the role

 

[Visualiza]

A lot would have to happen for me to believe that it was going in that direction .
A LOT.

I agree, and I'm not saying they're there yet...I'm just saying that I hope it doesn't happen.

The writing is on the wall in the fallout from this movie, though. Venom has been announced without so much as an Eddie Brock or symbiote Easter egg in this movie, and since exactly none of the four villains have been remotely close to what I'd even consider below average, the S6 movie is shaping up to be a circus more so than anything else. We haven't even seen the Bugle yet, or Empire State U, or...really anything of Peter's personal life outside of Gwen Stacy. To say that I'm worried would be an understatement.

They had better get their act together come the next movie.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

The idea of a movie focused on these terrible villains gives me the shivers.

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

I don't think they will lose money. I do think they will cut the budget and marketing budget for the next film though.

This is just my opinion but I don't see the 3rd film being any better than this one. I think the real impact on the box office numbers will come whenever they release the 3rd film.

They should cut the marketing anyway. They show too much

 

[grieven]

They should cut the marketing anyway. They show too much

Yeah, I didn't like the way this film was overmarketed. I can understand throwing the weight of the studio behind making audiences aware, but not showing all the money shots.

 

[Visualiza]

The idea of a movie focused on these terrible villains gives the shivers.

And it's every last one of them too. Not one compelling villain among the four of them. Unbelievable. Does Smythe count? Surely he'll be involved, but in all fairness he was barely a cameo, so I can't even pass judgment. Either way, the writing doesn't exactly inspire confidence.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

And it's every last one of them too. Not one compelling villain among the four of them. Unbelievable. Does Smythe count? Surely he'll be involved, but in all fairness he was barely a cameo, so I can't even pass judgment. Either way, the writing doesn't exactly inspire confidence.

Yeah Smythe is a question mark because the role was tiny.

It really is astonishing that Sony believe's that they can actually make a lot of money off of a Sinister Six movie. Do they realize that the villains are awful?

 

[jmc]

On top of that who are the audience suppose to cheer for?

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

On top of that who are the audience suppose to cheer for?

That's what I keep trying to figure out.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I SEE SPIDEY, how do you expect them to cut the budget?

 

[Serpico Jones]

On top of that who are the audience suppose to cheer for?

They'll make one of them an anti-hero.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I SEE SPIDEY, how do you expect them to cut the budget?

For future Spidey films or the spin-offs?

For Spidey films, they can't. For Venom, film it more like a big budget horror film than an action film. Sinister Six...umm....science?

 

[Heretic]

I think that Sinister Six is about a group of villains who are seeking redemption for their past crimes. The fact that most of them don't even debut until the movie itself I guess doesn't matter to them.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I SEE SPIDEY, how do you expect them to cut the budget?

Fire Marc Webb and get a cardboard box to direct it, the movie would probably turn out just as good as if it did.

Um I don't know exactly. I know it wouldn't be easy but surely they could find a way spend less than 450mil.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Fire Marc Webb and get a cardboard box to direct it, the movie would probably turn out just as good as if it did.

Um I don't know exactly. I know it wouldn't be easy but surely they could find a way spend less than 450mil.

In all honesty, one way to slash the budget more than you would think is do more filming in cities like Cleveland and Pittsburgh and double them for New York City. This film shot a lot in NYC. It is expensive to shoot there. They'd save a fair amount if a sizeable chunk was shot in PA or OH, and they'd get tax credits for it.

 

[Marvin]

It's just not a good thing when a studio increases the budget for a sequel yet it makes less money than the predecessor.

It's also partly to do with expectations. A lot of people on this forum expected TASM2 to make at least $800 million or more so anything below that will be seen as a disappointment. On the other hand most people expected Cap 2 to end up in the $500-600 million range so anything above that will be seen as a success.

We'll see how that goes when all is said and done(in terms of making less than the predecessor). Frankly with what is going on in China as of late, I don't don't see it making less than what it did last time. I also think the UK will embrace this film more this time out. But that's me.

Last I checked TDKR cost substantially more than TDK and possibly grossed more for the studio but just barely if even that. All is forgone in light of the fact that both films made a crap load of money. Making 700plus is pretty huge imo. It's why Cap flirting with that number is such a huge deal. Not simply cause it cost 'so little' but because 700mill means alot.

I'd say the same thing about 300mill domestic.

I think when things are looking 'dire' in terms of reviews and initial numbers, the cats come out to play with the agenda and such. I say at least give it a weekend to see where things lie.

Lastly, this is one of the few films where I've seen everyone comment on it's supposed combined budget and not so much it's production one. That tends to happen when a point is trying to be overstated. (see green lantern).

 

[Neno_Kos]

I think that Sinister Six is about a group of villains who are seeking redemption for their past crimes. The fact that most of them don't even debut until the movie itself I guess doesn't mater to them.

Sinister Six wants too kill Spider-man who caught them one by one individually, not redemption themself for their crimes ...bloody Sony

 

[Visualiza]

In all honesty, one way to slash the budget more than you would think is do more filming in cities like Cleveland and Pittsburgh and double them for New York City. This film shot a lot in NYC. It is expensive to shoot there. They'd save a fair amount if a sizeable chunk was shot in PA or OH, and they'd get tax credits for it.

My question is, with a budget of $255 million, where the hell did all the money go? The action scenes were so damn short, and the set pieces weren't exactly awe inspiring. None of the actors commands a Will Smith type of paycheck, so what was it? NY couldn't have accounted for all of the production shortcomings present in the movie.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Fire Marc Webb and get a cardboard box to direct it, the movie would probably turn out just as good as if it did.

Um I don't know exactly. I know it wouldn't be easy but surely they could find a way spend less than 450mil.

That would cost the same amount of money. They can't fire Webb without paying him.

Also, where did you post your thoughts? I'd like to read them.

For future Spidey films or the spin-offs?

For Spidey films, they can't. For Venom, film it more like a big budget horror film than an action film. Sinister Six...umm....science?

Can you imagine how horrible the Sinister Six and Venom films would look on a budget under $185m? There isn't that much action in TASM 2, and it cost $255m.

In all honesty, one way to slash the budget more than you would think is do more filming in cities like Cleveland and Pittsburgh and double them for New York City. This film shot a lot in NYC. It is expensive to shoot there. They'd save a fair amount if a sizeable chunk was shot in PA or OH, and they'd get tax credits for it.

And there goes the authenticity, the beauty.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I'd bet on it making less here in North America but unfortunately overseas numbers are going to save it.

 

[Visualiza]

I think that Sinister Six is about a group of villains who are seeking redemption for their past crimes. The fact that most of them don't even debut until the movie itself I guess doesn't mater to them.

That sounds more like the Thunderbolts to me.

"The Sinister Six" isn't exactly the kind of moniker I'd give to a team of villains out for redemption.

 

[jmc]

I think that Sinister Six is about a group of villains who are seeking redemption for their past crimes. The fact that most of them don't even debut until the movie itself I guess doesn't matter to them.

The problem is that story only works if in the end they do redeem themselves. If the end of the film is still them being bad then what's the point? You've just wasted 2 hours.

 

[Heretic]

Here's the quote about redemption...

Although Arad emphasised the importance of Spider-Man in bringing such disparate characters together. "As long as there's that one thing in common: they'll hate Spider-Man," he says. "They'll hate him because he's so different from them. But then, you know when you sit by yourself somewhere and you think about it, they all had a different life at one time and that's what's so beautiful about the Spider-Man universe. They have amazing stories if you look at it.

"And everybody's looking for redemption; they're unforgiven. Would you see one of the Sinister Six starting to feel like that? Yes. And people love it, by the way. They love when a villain finds his way back because we're all very forgiving."