The Amazing Spider-Man 2 The Amazing Spider-Man 2 Box Office Prediction Thread - Part 2

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Who said the numbers are terrible? I'm saying that the franchise is losing it's audience in North America and Europe and it is.

I'm saying Sony can't spend 500mil or whatever they plan on spending on the next film and expect to make a ton of profit off of it.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

All this fun we are having aside, these numbers aren't terrible for Spider-Man. They aren't record breaking numbers that the franchise used to draw.

Also it's already made like over $300 million worldwide.

They are terrible for Spider-Man, at least domestically. TASM 2 is struggling to beat its predecessor with, which was by far the worst in franchise history at the box office.

 

[Tim_Riggins]

It's nowhere near terrible, it's just made a bigger deal of because for some reason, the numbers of the marketing budget got out (when they usually don't), and TASM did 750 M WW and this one MIGHT do less, so you know, panic ensues.


@DARTH: TASM2 opened on A WORKING DAY IN CHINA, READ, Thanks. You're becoming really annoying & pompous as hell, stop contradicting me and just read the sources, hell, read the BO boards, China Box office section, TASM2 came out on a working day. Some people you want to punch in the face, jesus.

 

[chaseter]

Sony, Marc Webb and Avi Arad have ruined Spider-Man and the box office take + reviews prove that.

 

[JKKS085]

All this fun we are having aside, these numbers aren't terrible for Spider-Man. They aren't record breaking numbers that the franchise used to draw, but not worst ever.

Let's see how it plays out internationally but domestically those are already the worst numbers ever for the franchise.

 

[Liam_H]

TASM 2 opened on a holiday in China, and opened on various "holidays" across the world. There was a bank holiday in England. What are you talking about?

No it didn't. It opened in China today after its three day holiday from Thursday to Saturday.

 

[TheVileOne]

JKKS085, I mean yes you are right, I think what I mean is not the worst they could've done.

 

[chaseter]

JKKS085, I mean yes you are right, I think what I mean is not the worst they could've done.

That's inconsequential though. Yes they could have recast with Marlon Wayans and made $50 million WW. The fact of the matter is these movies are getting continually worse and the bad reviews and continued downward box office spiral proves that.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

It's nowhere near terrible, it's just made a bigger deal of because for some reason, the numbers of the marketing budget got out (when they usually don't), and TASM did 750 M WW and this one MIGHT do less, so you know, panic ensues.


@DARTH: TASM2 opened on A WORKING DAY IN CHINA, READ, Thanks. You're becoming really annoying & pompous as hell, stop contradicting me and just read the sources, hell, read the BO boards, China Box office section, TASM2 came out on a working day. Some people you want to punch in the face, jesus.

Just because your precious movie is not doing amazing, don't take it out on me. You have made this personal. That isn't my fault. Grow up a little.

And today was Youth Day in China. The younger set are all running around today and apparently tomorrow. Those above the age of 14 get half days, whatever that means. That means the target audience is out and about.

 

[JKKS085]

It's nowhere near terrible, it's just made a bigger deal of because for some reason, the numbers of the marketing budget got out (when they usually don't), and TASM did 750 M WW and this one MIGHT do less, so you know, panic ensues.

Where do you get that from ? You get estimates for major releases all the time. We got estimates for The Avengers, The Dark Knight Rises, Iron Man 3 (THR even made a great piece about it) hell even for The Amazing Spider-Man. You will not find a single BO thread in which this matter isn't discussed. Because it matters.

On another subject with all the spinning you're doing aren't you feeling a little dizzy yet ?

 

[Tim_Riggins]

I'm not spinning anything, you usually get the production budget, but not a clear marketing one, like you say, usually estimates. I never said it doesn't matter, don't put words in my mouth.

@Darth: if you don't wanna admit that you're wrong about the working day, that's your problem, but don't come after me to say that I'm full of it. Don't spin it, you said it didn't, it did, thanks pal.

 

[JKKS085]

I'm not spinning anything, you usually get the production budget, but not a clear marketing one, like you say, usually estimates. I never said it doesn't matter, don't put words in my mouth.

Did you get a clear marketing budget for TASM 2. I don't think so. You got estimates just like with any other movie.

 

[chaseter]

Tim, this movie will make less than TASM and be the lowest reviewed and box office grossing Spider-Man movie OF ALL TIME.

Tis a fail.

 

[Tim_Riggins]

A bigger breakdown in the meantime:

The Amazing Spider-Man 2 kept the international box office ensnared in its web as a further $116m through Sony Pictures Releasing International boosted the tally after three sessions to $277m.

Combined with the weekend’s $92m estimated North America debut, the wall-crawler has reached $269m worldwide.
The international haul included $6.8m from Imax, whose running total climbed to $15.7m.
The Amazing Spider-Man 2 opened in France on $10.6m to beat the 2012 original by 32% and arrived in Brazil on $10.5m to beat its predecessor by 76%.
Spidey 2 debut in China on 11,002 screens on $10.4m on a working Sunday for the biggest debut for a workday.
The superhero sequel swung into action in India on $6.5m and beat the predecessor’s $5.6m to score the all-time biggest Hollywood launch. An estimated $5.6m in the Philippines was good enough for the third biggest debut in history behind Iron Man 3 and Avengers.
Indonesia generated $5.2m, Malaysia $4.6m, Hong Kong $3.6m, Singapore $3.5m, Thailand $2.6m and Vietnam $1.3m. All these Asian debuts beat those of the original by at least 28%.
The film arrived in Colombia on $2.2m, Central America on $1.9m, Peru on $1.4m and Chile on $1.3m. All these Latin America debuts were at least 11% higher than those of the original. The UAE produced a $2.4m debut.

 

[chaseter]

$1.3 million in Chile! Break out the expensive champagne Sony.

 

[Silver Surfer]

Tim, this movie will make less than TASM and be the lowest reviewed and box office grossing Spider-Man movie OF ALL TIME.

Tis a fail.

As someone who has defended Spider-Man 3 for years, I have a smug smile on my face right now.... t:

 

[Tim_Riggins]

Neighbors is doing gangbusters in the UK & Australia, got such a huge buzz, looks pretty hilarious.

 

[Nicko-Ray]

So looks like foreign is really gonna help this movie out. It's already made $370M WW. That's good. I can sleep better now haha. $90M OW isn't that bad either.

 

[Spider-Fan]

The power of Christ compells you!

Is there an exorcist in the house?

We need to call robot exorcist guy from Futurama!

The basement is $950m.

It's going to make IM3 look small

Tim, this movie will make less than TASM and be the lowest reviewed and box office grossing Spider-Man movie OF ALL TIME.

Tis a fail.

Agreed. The Spider-Man brand has taken a major hit with these films, and we have $$$ to show the decline of this series. This isn't good. I don't care if 700 puts it over most superhero franchises, Spider-Man was once THE superhero franchise. Now, depending upon Cap 2's remaining BO numbers and how this one drops, this may fall below Captain America. What world should Sony be encouraged by that? As a consumer, that makes me happy because the GOOD movie is making the money it should and the less than good one isn't making as much. But, as a fan of the property, this isn't something to be proud of.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

So looks like foreign is really gonna help this movie out. It's already made $370M WW. That's good. I can sleep better now haha. $90M OW isn't that bad either.

90mil ain't that good either.

 

[chaseter]

As someone who has defended Spider-Man 3 for years, I have a smug smile on my face right now.... t:

I'm not a big fan of SM3 myself but it's better than this movie lololol. That's when you know you failed.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

The fans definitely don't need to worry about a sequel coming. It will happen. And I'm happy for those fans and I'm not trying to rain on anyone's parade. It's all about opinions as far as quality is concerned.

I'm thinking Neighbors is opening with 35-40mil and has the potential to win it's weekend.

No one ever had to worry about a sequel. Someone is going to make another Spider-Man film. Either Sony does or loses it.

 

[Spider-Ock]

It's going to make IM3 look small

Now the guy is claiming on twitter that, over time, this one will be appreciated more.

I loved the movie but that does not change the fact that many people didn't.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

We need to call robot exorcist guy from Futurama!



It's going to make IM3 look small





Agreed. The Spider-Man brand has taken a major hit with these films, and we have $$$ to show the decline of this series. This isn't good. I don't care if 700 puts it over most superhero franchises, Spider-Man was once THE superhero franchise. Now, depending upon Cap 2's remaining BO numbers and how this one drops, this may fall below Captain America. What world should Sony be encouraged by that? As a consumer, that makes me happy because the GOOD movie is making the money it should and the less than good one isn't making as much. But, as a fan of the property, this isn't something to be proud of.

What you don't understand is the creation of the MCU means that Spider-Man is not allowed to sell as many tickets anymore. Just Iron-Man and Batman. So what happens if DoFP beats TASM 2? A franchise that hasn't seen a $500m film in its history. Is that the MCU fault as well?

 

[Spider-Fan]

As someone who has defended Spider-Man 3 for years, I have a smug smile on my face right now.... t:

I'm the first person to say SM3 isn't nearly as bad as everyone makes it out to be, and I've been the first guy on here to defend it for a long time, and I have been called a moron 100 times for doing that. I don't like it when people have to be in that position, even if I can consider it justice to a degree. I, like any Spidey fan, wanted this film to be great and the fact that THIS is the film we have been given still makes me sad. Poor Spidey

I'd say maybe Sony will now learn from this. But, they've learned nothing since their mistakes with SM3. Why would I expect Sony to learn a movie with similar problems (and IMO, even worse villains and story) as SM3, which we've been pointing out the flaws in for 7 years? Sony won't learn. This property needs new creative talent behind the camera, in the producers chair, etc.