The Amazing Spider-Man 2 The Amazing Spider-Man 2 Box Office Prediction Thread - Part 2

[Micromind]

CATWS already beat MoS.

No, it didn't.

CATWS $679.84 mil worldwide.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=marvel14b.htm

Man of Steel $687.99 mil worldwide.

http://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Man-of-Steel#tab=summary

(maybe it will in future or maybe not.)

 

[Spider-Ock]

No, it didn't.

Man of Steel 687 mil worldwide.

http://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Man-of-Steel#tab=summary

(maybe it will in future or maybe not.)

I figure TWS will reach 700 mil in the next week or so. I expect it to wind up at around 725-730 mil

 

[Spider-Fan]

Now the guy is claiming on twitter that, over time, this one will be appreciated more.

I loved the movie but that does not change the fact that many people didn't.

Wow, LOL!!!! That guy is funny

No, it didn't.

Man of Steel 687 mil worldwide.

http://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Man-of-Steel#tab=summary

(maybe it will in future or maybe not.)

It is going to beat it. Just of matter of time now. 700 mil for Cap is basically guaranteed.

What you don't understand is the creation of the MCU means that Spider-Man is not allowed to sell as many tickets anymore. Just Iron-Man and Batman. So what happens if DoFP beats TASM 2? A franchise that hasn't seen a $500m film in its history. Is that the MCU fault as well?

The whole Spidey can't make money like he did because of Marvel is a stupid argument. If that was the case, Batman wouldn't make the money he does. It is ridiculous people actually believe this is a legit reason.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

No, it didn't.

CATWS $679.84 mil worldwide.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=marvel14b.htm

Man of Steel $687.99 mil worldwide.

http://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Man-of-Steel#tab=summary

(maybe it will in future or maybe not.)

Yeah, I think it might just pass it.

Though not domestically. No shot of that.

 

[InJustice]

What's unsettling to me is that people are attributing the lowered popularity to the competition, when it should be the writing and direction of the film that should be criticized.

 

[Micromind]

CATWS benefited from the Avengers boost and relatively milder competition.

Movie was good also added to good wom.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

The whole Spidey can't make money like he did because of Marvel is a stupid argument. If that was the case, Batman wouldn't make the money he does. It is ridiculous people actually believe this is a legit reason.

Batman is the perfect example. Batman '89 was one of the biggest films of all time. So much so, WB was willing to go to war with the theaters over Batman Returns box office shares.

Then they started making progressively worse films and the box office dropped off, until Batman was all but banished. Then Nolan came around and made a fantastic film. Begins suffered the ills of the previous films in its box office run, but the DVD sales showed that those who were finding it in home release were in love. We saw the audiences return with TDK and TDKR, bigger and better then ever. If the new Batman features films the general audiences don't like, the same cycle will happen again.

We are seeing the exact same cycle with Spider-Man right now.

With Spider-Man opening 48% less than the last year's May opener I definitely see potential for a breakout. I don't quite see Hangover numbers though. 45mil is a bridge to far for me right now.

My Rose will dominate at the box office.

 

[Raiden]

No, it didn't.

CATWS $679.84 mil worldwide.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=marvel14b.htm

Man of Steel $687.99 mil worldwide.

http://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Man-of-Steel#tab=summary

(maybe it will in future or maybe not.)

I think TWS will gross 700 mil. It definitely has a good chance to do so.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Batman is the perfect example. Batman '89 was one of the biggest films of all time. So much so, WB was willing to go to war with the theaters over Batman Returns box office shares.

Then they started making progressively worse films and the box office dropped off, until Batman was all but banished. Then Nolan came around and made a fantastic film. Begins suffered the ills of the previous films in its box office run, but the DVD sales showed that those who were finding it in home release were in love. We saw the audiences return with TDK and TDKR, bigger and better then ever. If the new Batman features films the general audiences don't like, the same cycle will happen again.

We are seeing the exact same cycle with Spider-Man right now.

100% agreed. The only problem is, how long before we get our TDK equivalent for Spidey? Heck, when do we get our BB equivalent! I don't think TASM3 is going to deliver that for us. I only see this current series staying around where it is currently at or getting worse.

I still say Batman Returns gets way too much hate, LOL! But, that is off-topic

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

My Rose will dominate at the box office.

She might, it's going to be close.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

100% agreed. The only problem is, how long before we get our TDK equivalent for Spidey? Heck, when do we get our BB equivalent! I don't think TASM3 is going to deliver that for us. I only see this current series staying around where it is currently at or getting worse.

I still say Batman Returns gets way too much hate, LOL! But, that is off-topic

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Also I love Batman Returns. First film I saw in theaters, or at least I remember seeing. But it is a step down from Batman '89 imo. It was the insane drop off with the next two that killed it.

She might, it's going to be close.

She is going to go Stone Cold on TASM 2. I can feel it.

 

[Spider-Fan]

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Also I love Batman Returns. First film I saw in theaters, or at least I remember seeing. But it is a step down from Batman '89 imo. It was the insane drop off with the next two that killed it.

I want to belive you, Harvey Dent

I liked BR slightly more than 89. Sure, it was sillier, but I loved the overall subtext of the film. The whole dual identities plotlines between the main characters was used to great effect. It's a legitimately tragic movie, IMO.

 

[Tymminator]

In BOM and several other places MoS-Worldwide: $668,045,518, so Cap2 has already beaten it depending which site you go with.

 

[JKKS085]

No, it didn't.

CATWS $679.84 mil worldwide.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=marvel14b.htm

Man of Steel $687.99 mil worldwide.

http://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Man-of-Steel#tab=summary

(maybe it will in future or maybe not.)

I know this isn't the topic at hand at all but I wonder why the-numbers have MoS at 687M WW while every other website (BoM, BoxOffice.com, Variety) has it at 668M which is the number reported by other medias (THR, Deadline, Forbes, RT, Imdb ...). Anyways, one number or the other Cap 2 either already grossed more or will surely gross more than MoS.

Sorry for the off-topic.

 

[grieven]

boxoffice.com's global *** is estimated slightly higher than has been discussed here at $377

http://www.boxoffice.com/news/2014-...377m-global-cume-in-latest-overseas-expansion


'The Amazing Spider-Man 2' Nets $377M Global Cume In Latest Overseas Expansion

The Amazing Spider-Man 2 is now in release across all global territories and celebrated the biggest expansion in its run with a $116 million weekend overseas, including $6.75 million from IMAX screens. The Amazing Spider-Man 2 has grossed a total of $277 million after three weekends of release overseas, with $15.7 million of that figure coming from IMAX.

Spidey claimed the biggest opening weekend of all time for a Hollywood title in India with a $6.5 million debut. The previous record holder was its franchise predecessor, The Amazing Spider-Man, which took a $5.6 million bow from India. The Indian premiere of the new Spider-Man film was more than twice the openings of The Avengers and Spider-Man 3, and more than three times the opening gross of Captain America 2 and Thor 2.

The Spider-Man sequel took a big single-day debut in China with a $10.4 million tally from Sunday alone. Sunday was a workday in China, making the Spidey sequel the biggest opener of all time for a workday. The Amazing Spider-Man 2 recorded the biggest ever screen count for a new release in China, where it opened across 11,002 screens.

The superhero sequel took a $10.5 million opening in Brazil, a 76% improvement over the debut of its immediate predecessor. Spidey also registered a $10.6 million bow in France, 32% ahead of the franchise’s previous installment.

Other top openings for the latest Spider-Man sequel include a $5.6 million bow in the Philippines, $4.6 million from Malaysia, $43.5 million from Singapore, $2.6 million from Thailand, $2.4 million from the United Arab Emirates, $2.2 million from Colombia, $1.9 million from Central America, $1.4 million from Peru, and $1.3 million from Chile.

The Amazing Spider-Man 2 has grossed $369 million worldwide.

I've read the past few pages and maybe it's been discussed further back, but is this terrible? I can't tell. sounds like it'll be crossing over $400 million before next weekend. It may not be gangbusters, but I don't have a frame of reference if this is that poor a performance.

 

[Spiderdevil]

Agree with two people here

As someone who really liked SM3, I feel oddly satisfied

Spider-fan is right
Someone says they like MOS or TASM2 and nobody bats an eye ball, but one praise towards SM3 and everybody loses their mind, despite the fact that SM3 is better received

 

[TheIrishAvenger]

It's going to finish with solid numbers WW but its final domestic total is definitely gonna be a disappointment ($230 I'm thinking), ASM 3 is going to be in some trouble come 2016.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Now the guy is claiming on twitter that, over time, this one will be appreciated more.

i fricking love this excuse. "You'll see! It will be more appreciated in the future when people get it!!!!". It's the last line of defense for the beaten fanboy with no counter points. You cannot disprove that the fanboys' favorite film will not indeed be received better with time, so it is a safe claim to fall back on when all else fails. "You'll see! TDKR will be a masterpiece in 2030!!!".

My retort? We may all be nonexistent by nuclear radiation by then and will not be around to even asses it. I don't care about its reception in the future. I care about the present.

If they call into question the absurd nature of my prediction? I will remind them that the chance of my predicition happening is the same as their prediction about the movie's future, 50/50.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Agree with two people here

As someone who really liked SM3, I feel oddly satisfied

Spider-fan is right
Someone says they like MOS or TASM2 and nobody bats an eye ball, but one praise towards SM3 and everybody loses their mind, despite the fact that SM3 is better received

Exactly! People act like Spider-Man 3 killed their dog or something. I mean, I count tell you how many times I have posted my opinion on a movie here, and the only reply I get to my points is "You liked Spider-Man 3"

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I'm think 220mil total myself.

 

[grieven]

It's going to finish with solid numbers WW but its final domestic total is definitely gonna be a disappointment ($230 I'm thinking), ASM 3 is going to be in some trouble come 2016.

Yes, personally I think if it can hit the same WW number as TASM1 that would be acceptable, but a domestic *** below TASM1 would be very disappointing and TASM3 in 2016 has quite a challenge ahead of it. They've GOT to right the ship and get the writing and editing and focused storytelling in order.

 

[TheIrishAvenger]

Oh boy, I was naive to think this would do massive business, I only really realised on Friday. In December, I predicted $315M (!!! LOL), then in mid-April $280M or something like that and then my final prediction was $270M. Hey, at least I predicted it at $93M OW.

 

[Spider-Ock]

Exactly! People act like Spider-Man 3 killed their dog or something. I mean, I count tell you how many times I have posted my opinion on a movie here, and the only reply I get to my points is "You liked Spider-Man 3"

I liked SM3. It was better than TDW and IM2 according to me. Probably around a 6-6.5/10 in my book.

 

[grieven]

I don't think they will, but if Sony pushed TASM3 a year to 2017 to really perfect the script, story, etc, that would still meet the requirements to keep the property from reverting to Marvel, right? They only need to make a movie every 5 years or so?

 

[Spider-Fan]

Yes, personally I think if it can hit the same WW number as TASM1 that would be acceptable, but a domestic *** below TASM1 would be very disappointing and TASM3 in 2016 has quite a challenge ahead of it. They've GOT to right the ship and get the writing and editing and focused storytelling in order.

On a quick turn around of 2 years? I don't see it. I know SM2 was made in a 2 year time frame, but going from SM1 to SM2, we didn't see this many script holes and such. This series needs an awful lot of repair in just 2 years. I don't see a great script coming from this.