Homecoming The Amazing Spider-Man 3 General Discussion - Part 2

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That'd be great.

I want the TASM costume to come back.... I don't care if it doesn't make sense!! What if his costume gets damaged and he wears it? That'd be great... THAT'D BE GREAT!!

No we won't get that outfit back now, Since TASM2s outfit got a lot of praise purely from how comic accurate it was Sony will never go back to the other one, unlike marvel where even though they had a more faithful captain America outfit in the avengers they still out of respect for the character and his story had him wear the first avenger outfit in the sequel that even got abit of fan hate back in 2011

If anything TASM2s outfit will have a few alterations for the 3rd, maybe new material ect ect

It's sad because I think a lot of people warmed to TASM outfit which is sometimes what you have to let people do but they didn't really stand tall and show belief in their decision to use the same suit for the sequel
 
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Also, the worst choice Sony could make is to cram Sin Eater, Scorpion and Hobgoblin into one film. In no way am I supporting that.
 
At this point, I just want them to focus on making a good Spider-Man movie. They need to put out a First Class before they even think about doing a DotFP.

Yeah, that's true. First Class was a pleasant surprise, I didn't expect to be so impressed with it at first!
 
I think if they go the whole Brock gets the killer wrong route , they should replace Sin eater with Kassidy. He's a far more interesting character and it would make the connection between Parker, Brock, Kassidy and the symbiote jumping from host to host much stronger.
 
Yeah, that's true. First Class was a pleasant surprise, I didn't expect to be so impressed with it at first!

Casting and OST, coupled by a decent script, allowed that film to soar.

Some of the stuff could have been cheesy, but Fassy/Macca gave so much emotional weight to their scenes.

The best part about it is Magneto really, you can see him become what he is.

Greeat movie.

Spider-Man cannot soft reboot like X-Men can. The only way to save the ASM series is to push forward and hope to push a few good movies out by 2018.

If sinister six and Black Cat are bad, I think we may not even see TASM3.
 
I really quite liked First Classs the first time around, but I watched it again a few weeks ago and came out a little dissapointed. It was cheesy as hell and didn't really hit any real highs.

McAvoy and Fassbender are God tier, though. They did bring some emotional elements to the film.
 
Oh I was just going to say how cheesy it was! :funny:

I mean don't get me wrong, it was cool. It was a very good film and I enjoyed it tremendously. But there was a lot of weird, cheesy/unintenionally funny moments. The music was weirdly overly dramatic at points, too? Also, it may sound elitist but I really didn't the enjoy the climax being about D-Listers. But the stuff with Magneto and Xavier was great.
 
They should just use The Winter Soldier template for ASM3.Have Vulture be like Falcon,Kraven be like Winter Soldier,Black Cat be like Black Widow,and Kingpin like Nick Fury.
 
They should just use The Winter Soldier template for ASM3.Have Vulture be like Falcon,Kraven be like Winter Soldier,Black Cat be like Black Widow,and Kingpin like Nick Fury.

Sony needs to create trends not follow them. They have the perfect opportunist to give the audience something they have never seen before (supervillain team up) they shouldn't be beholden to anything ever done before.

I think they is why they hired Goddard to direct the movie, who better to direct than the man who brought us the genre busting Cabin in the Woods.
 
Agreed. Don't copy other movies style and formula, just try and make a good movie.
 
I think people need to consider that Marc said that Norman will return in the sequel when the head jar scene was still in the film, as well as when Peter meeting his father was still in place. Things change. Especially when the movie now comes out in four years. Personally, I really don't see what the point would be of bringing back Norman. The main thing he was meant to do was done by his son. I'm not sure what resurrecting him would accomplish. Can anybody enlighten me? I'm being serious. I want to know what Norman being brought back from the dead would add. If it somehow makes a cool story, then by all means. But what would Norman do, exactly?
-I feel the same way. Bringing back Norman wouldn't accomplish anything but the ability to say "Oh, look, here's Norman Osbourne! Spider-man's biggest foe! This movie has to be great now, folks!" There are too many other great Spidey characters out there to waste time on Norman.
 
I just thought of this because I'm a genius.

You know who would be a great J Jonah Jameson?

Bill Groundhog Day Ghostbusting Ass Murray.

Tell me that's not genius.
 
Well, he is a good actor.

But his face is little too... Kind.
 
I've really been let down by the last two Amazing Spider-Man movies that I'm not looking forward to the third film. I sincerely hope they get their act together and really make a top notch superhero film.
 
Family Business is one of my favorite comic series.

I would definitely be down for that :up:

Me too. Using Family Business as a storyline for a third film can remedy many of the issues with the last few films.

1) The story could tie up the whole storyline with Peter's Parents, while introducing a Return of the Jedi type element of long lost Peter's sister. The CIA element actually fits perfectly with what May alluded to in ASM 2.

2) The story is a globe trotting adventure which can take Spiderman outside of The streets of New York for a change and allow the Spiderman character to have a foreign adventure which broadens its storytelling possibilities. TDK partially took place in China, The Wolverine took place in Japan, etc so its Superheroes globe trotting is not un heard of. The fish out of water aspect of the story also has its advantages for the Peter Parker character.

3) Teresa Parker offers a great opportunity to introduce a strong female lead who isn't another love interest and who is actually crucial to the plot. You also don't have to repeat the same tropes of Peter struggling with his love life yet again with a new MJ. Save the love interest for ASM 4 and have Peter be on the rebound . In fact , Woodley could play Teresa as opposed to MJ.

4) Having a villain who also isn't bound to Oscorp and who isn't trying to destroy New York or whatever, but operates on a grander scale than Spiderman is use to on film would be another change from the previous films and could raise the stakes beyond lower Manhattan. A villain like Chameleon , who originally was a very international villain with the aid of henchmen like Sandman, Scorpion, Shocker etc. also breaks the trend of scientists and mentors who become Peter's villain , and instead can give us someone who is truly evil.

5) The story could be something fresh while at the same time keeping itself tied to the other two films. It hasn't been done in a Spiderman film before and it opens up opportunities for storytelling that the other films didn't have.

6) With the central characters being Peter, Teresa, The Villain, and Peter's Parents , you have a much tighter narrative and a chance to tell a very personal story yet set against an international and global backdrop.

While I think you'd have to change things from the comic , I think the structure could serve as a good foundation for a Spiderman film which isn't just a rehash of what all the other Spiderman films have done.
 
I just thought of this because I'm a genius.

You know who would be a great J Jonah Jameson?

Bill Groundhog Day Ghostbusting Ass Murray.

Tell me that's not genius.

Holy Sh** I agree with this. I could completely see it. It'd be interesting, but not as good as J.K. Simmons
 
Me too. Using Family Business as a storyline for a third film can remedy many of the issues with the last few films.

1) The story could tie up the whole storyline with Peter's Parents, while introducing a Return of the Jedi type element of long lost Peter's sister. The CIA element actually fits perfectly with what May alluded to in ASM 2.

2) The story is a globe trotting adventure which can take Spiderman outside of The streets of New York for a change and allow the Spiderman character to have a foreign adventure which broadens its storytelling possibilities. TDK partially took place in China, The Wolverine took place in Japan, etc so its Superheroes globe trotting is not un heard of. The fish out of water aspect of the story also has its advantages for the Peter Parker character.

3) Teresa Parker offers a great opportunity to introduce a strong female lead who isn't another love interest and who is actually crucial to the plot. You also don't have to repeat the same tropes of Peter struggling with his love life yet again with a new MJ. Save the love interest for ASM 4 and have Peter be on the rebound . In fact , Woodley could play Teresa as opposed to MJ.

4) Having a villain who also isn't bound to Oscorp and who isn't trying to destroy New York or whatever, but operates on a grander scale than Spiderman is use to on film would be another change from the previous films and could raise the stakes beyond lower Manhattan. A villain like Chameleon , who originally was a very international villain with the aid of henchmen like Sandman, Scorpion, Shocker etc. also breaks the trend of scientists and mentors who become Peter's villain , and instead can give us someone who is truly evil.

5) The story could be something fresh while at the same time keeping itself tied to the other two films. It hasn't been done in a Spiderman film before and it opens up opportunities for storytelling that the other films didn't have.

6) With the central characters being Peter, Teresa, The Villain, and Peter's Parents , you have a much tighter narrative and a chance to tell a very personal story yet set against an international and global backdrop.

While I think you'd have to change things from the comic , I think the structure could serve as a good foundation for a Spiderman film which isn't just a rehash of what all the other Spiderman films have done.

I'll get back to this post when I return home from a trip on Monday :up:
 
ASM3:

-Have Spider-Man have a new costume,the black symbiote costume,but it's not the symbiote,it just looks like it.

-Have a new villain (Kraven) show up out of nowhere to face Spider-Man.

-Spider-Man is defeated by Kraven,Kraven uses a dart drugged with poison to knock Spider-Man out.Then Kraven buries Spider-Man alive.

-Kraven takes Spider-Man's black costume and pretends to be Spider-Man to prove he is a better Spider-Man than the original Spider-Man.

-Kraven as the black Spider-Man takes out the mob and other criminals,and even kills them to make Spider-Man into a murderer.

-Peter Parker wakes up and digs out of his grave.

-Peter puts on his original red/blue costume as he faces his new world.

-Spider-Man has the mob after him now because they think he killed Kingpin's son.

-Kraven uses a drug on Spider-Man in there next fight to make Spider-Man hallucinate.It makes Spider-Man see Kraven in the black costume as a monster known as Venom.
 
That's pretty cool! :woot:

Loose adaptation of Kraven's Last Hunt, the black costume, the mob - It's all there. :up:
 
I've really been let down by the last two Amazing Spider-Man movies that I'm not looking forward to the third film. I sincerely hope they get their act together and really make a top notch superhero film.

Agreed but they probably won't. The only hope now is for a reboot.
 
ASM3:

-Have Spider-Man have a new costume,the black symbiote costume,but it's not the symbiote,it just looks like it.

-Have a new villain (Kraven) show up out of nowhere to face Spider-Man.

-Spider-Man is defeated by Kraven,Kraven uses a dart drugged with poison to knock Spider-Man out.Then Kraven buries Spider-Man alive.

-Kraven takes Spider-Man's black costume and pretends to be Spider-Man to prove he is a better Spider-Man than the original Spider-Man.

-Kraven as the black Spider-Man takes out the mob and other criminals,and even kills them to make Spider-Man into a murderer.

-Peter Parker wakes up and digs out of his grave.

-Peter puts on his original red/blue costume as he faces his new world.

-Spider-Man has the mob after him now because they think he killed Kingpin's son.

-Kraven uses a drug on Spider-Man in there next fight to make Spider-Man hallucinate.It makes Spider-Man see Kraven in the black costume as a monster known as Venom.

I think over all that is a pretty good idea nice:woot:
 
Anyone heard of enstarz.com? They're saying ASM3 could (or was suppose to be) about The Jackal creating clones of Gwen, Peter/Spiderman, and Peter's dad. Sounds bogus cuz I have never heard of the site before but was wondering if any of you have?
 
ASM3:

-Have Spider-Man have a new costume,the black symbiote costume,but it's not the symbiote,it just looks like it.

-Have a new villain (Kraven) show up out of nowhere to face Spider-Man.

-Spider-Man is defeated by Kraven,Kraven uses a dart drugged with poison to knock Spider-Man out.Then Kraven buries Spider-Man alive.

-Kraven takes Spider-Man's black costume and pretends to be Spider-Man to prove he is a better Spider-Man than the original Spider-Man.

-Kraven as the black Spider-Man takes out the mob and other criminals,and even kills them to make Spider-Man into a murderer.

-Peter Parker wakes up and digs out of his grave.

-Peter puts on his original red/blue costume as he faces his new world.

-Spider-Man has the mob after him now because they think he killed Kingpin's son.

-Kraven uses a drug on Spider-Man in there next fight to make Spider-Man hallucinate.It makes Spider-Man see Kraven in the black costume as a monster known as Venom.

It may work well in a comic/on paper but I'm not sure if this would transition very well into a film.
The parts in bold would just have the audience and critics WTFing and laughing :/ I think most people would notice that it wasn't actually Spider-Man due to Kraven's build being bigger than Peter's. I do like the final idea though, having Venom as a hallucination but I think having the black suit/symbiote would draw to many comparison's to Raimi's SM3 and I think pseudo-Venom wouldn't lie very well with big fans of Venom.
 
It may work well in a comic/on paper but I'm not sure if this would transition very well into a film.
The parts in bold would just have the audience and critics WTFing and laughing :/ I think most people would notice that it wasn't actually Spider-Man due to Kraven's build being bigger than Peter's. I do like the final idea though, having Venom as a hallucination but I think having the black suit/symbiote would draw to many comparison's to Raimi's SM3 and I think pseudo-Venom wouldn't lie very well with big fans of Venom.

What's wrong with "Kraven buries Spider-Man alive" part? I think it could be very powerful scene if done right and besides Spider-man still haven't had a movie where he's been defeated by his opponent in a straight up fight(Doc Ock doesn't count cause he cheated with the train brakes). The Fall and Rise, man, every hero should go through that.

I do agree with "Kraven takes Spider-Man's black costume and pretends to be Spider-Man" part being wtf though. Let's leave that to Venom.
 
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