The Amazing Spider-Man The Amazing Spider-Man: Box Office Thread

[Troy_Parker]

I don't think a Spider-Man movie will ever bomb.

Seriously, even the last Spider-Man movie was... urm, not exactly up to par, and look at how much that made.

 

[Troy_Parker]

Obviously the POV scene was made for the 3D.

If you're shooting in that format, why not take advantage of it? I think it was very well done. It could easily transist into a 3rd person view.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

The fact that people think Avengers is going to be weak at the box office makes me giggle. It will make a lot of money. Trust me.

I mean, Spider-Man will obivously make a lot of money as well because he's Spider-man, but the fact is, it's a reboot and the fact that Tobey, etc are not there will put people off.

 

[socool]

I don't think a Spider-Man movie will ever bomb.

Seriously, even the last Spider-Man movie was... urm, not exactly up to par, and look at how much that made.

It made a lot of money because the last 2 were great and the trailer made it look excellent.

Obviously the POV scene was made for the 3D.

If you're shooting in that format, why not take advantage of it? I think it was very well done. It could easily transist into a 3rd person view.

That should never happen. Anything put in a movie should heighten the movie experience...not the 3D experience.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

That should never happen. Anything put in a movie should heighten the movie experience...not the 3D experience.

Great statement.

 

[Liam_H]

The POV scene has a lot of potential if the 3D is done correctly.

 

[Troy_Parker]

It's a shame that you think it shouldn't happen, because it will happen. The POV scene is an example of that.

Mark my words, you're going to get at least ONE scene where the Lizard whips his tail "into" the audience, and at least one scene where something similar happens with Spider-Man's webbing.

Regardless of what 99% of this board thinks, sometimes things ARE put in a movie to cater the format that it's being shot in.

 

[Troy_Parker]

It made a lot of money because the last 2 were great and the trailer made it look excellent.

Yup.

Which is why this will make a **** load of money.

 

[socool]

Yup.

Which is why this will make a **** load of money.

The last one wasn't good and the first trailer (while most of us liked it) wasn't actually a good trailer. It was actually pretty bland and just showed us what we already knew. BUT thats why it was a first trailer. We can come back to this sentence when the next trailer drops.

 

[Scarlet Spider]

See, now this makes sense. You're are completely right. Most things that are negative towards the reboot are on the internet, which means someone had to look it up, which means they're probably a comic book fan. I don't go around the city taking a poll of who likes the idea and who doesn't, BUT the people who bring in the most money are comic fans. And, like you and I both just stated, aren't liking the reboot very much. So why do you think the general audience will care so much for the movie all of a sudden? Because it's MORE Spider-Man? The same character that brought 3 movies in the past 10 years and had an insanely disappointing last entry? People don't want to see more Spider-Man. People didn't want to see more Batman when Begins came out, but it was so damn good it caught people's eye and then The Dark Knight kicked ass in every way.

And, once again, the costume is the same thing as before. General audience will notice eventually, but not right away. Comic book fans (THE ONES WHO BRING THE MOST MONEY) do notice immediately. I never said the costume was going to affect everyone. But there are people who will not see the movie because of the costume (ones who notice...and are dumb)

Comic book fans are not the one who bring in the most money. Just the opposite. Comic book fans are a drop in the bucket of a movie's overall gross. If you took the number of fans that buy the comics every month and translated that into ticket sales, the movie itself would bomb.

The general audience decides the fate of a movie. The people that have no vested interest in Spidey but are just looking to see an entertaining film and get their money's worth. Those are the one's who bring in the most amount of money.

Here's the thing. What the fans think, whether they love or hate the costume, or the direction of this film are irrelevant because they'll be there to see the movie (and voting with their wallets) regardless.

Just to play Devil's Advocate, even if all the Comic book fans boycotted this film or any other superhero film, they would barely make a dent in the overall gross.

 

[Troy_Parker]

The last one wasn't good and the first trailer (while most of us liked it) wasn't actually a good trailer. It was actually pretty bland and just showed us what we already knew. BUT thats why it was a first trailer. We can come back to this sentence when the next trailer drops.

I think the first trailer was something to establish the overall tone of the movie more than anything, we'll find out more with the next trailer.

And... the last one may not have lived up to the first two Spider-Man movies, but it still got a warm response. It in no way was a Green Lantern level bomb like it's made out to be on here.

It will make 400m domestic EASY.

Comic book fans are not the one who bring in the most money. Just the opposite. Comic book fans are a drop in the bucket of a movie's overall gross. If you took the number of fans that buy the comics every month and translated that into ticket sales, the movie itself would bomb.

The general audience decides the fate of a movie. The people that have no vested interest in Spidey but are just looking to see an entertaining film and get their money's worth. Those are the one's who bring in the most amount of money.

Here's the thing. What the fans think, whether they love or hate the costume, or the direction of this film are irrelevant because they'll be there to see the movie (and voting with their wallets) regardless.

Just to play Devil's Advocate, even if all the Comic book fans boycotted this film or any other superhero film, they would barely make a dent in the overall gross.

Shush. We like to think we have some pull in the box office. :P

 

[SoNicRaDiATioN]

It will top The Avengers and fall behind The Hobbit and The Dark Knight Rises. I don't know how people are figuring the Avengers is going to make so much when it's leading and most popular character's movie made 500-600 mil worldwide. I've seen people say it's going to make 900 mil. No ****ing chance.

Next summer:

TDKR - $1,000,000,000+ Worldwide
TASM - $750,000,000 Worldwide
TA - $650,000,000 Worldwide

No. You got the Avengers at IM2 levels. 3D boost + other iconic characters and it will do better then this. The Avengers is more then the sum of it's parts. It's about the synergy of those parts. The characters will be in a completely different light.

Hulk could have been an Iron Man-type franchise had his films gotten off on the right foot. The first film was a greek tragedy that lacked the comic book action that people were expecting from a Hulk film. The action scenes were average at best and Lee's Absorbing Man imagining did little to satisfy. Not to mention it was being heavily criticized for it's unfinished effects from the notorious Super Bowl add prior to it's release. This hampered it's opening weekend big time, while the film's overall disapointment led to a 70% drop in it's second weekend. The second film was in a hole from the first one. And It went too far in the other direction in it's response. The potential of this franchise has never been realized. Yet on alot of boards one of the biggest buzz topics is about the Hulk in this film. I'm hoping that seeing the Hulk interacting with other charaters in The Avengers will revitalize him as a character in the film world to the point where we can get another film out of him....

That should never happen. Anything put in a movie should heighten the movie experience...not the 3D experience.

This film was shot on 3D and the action sequences concieved for it. It goes hand in hand. The greatest movie experience Webb is intending the audience to have is the 3D one. And it still works in 2D. Either way the POV will be in limited use I'm sure. And you say it won't help the film without seeing it in the context of the film. Too early to make such a statement.

The fact that people think Avengers is going to be weak at the box office makes me giggle. It will make a lot of money. Trust me.

I mean, Spider-Man will obivously make a lot of money as well because he's Spider-man, but the fact is, it's a reboot and the fact that Tobey, etc are not there will put people off.

Some people... I embrace this new cast much more then I did the old one. I liked Tobey, but I see Andrew as more reflective of how I envisioned Peter.

Again, my predictions as of right now:

TDKR - 1 billion + ww
The Avengers - $800 - 850 million ww
ASM - $700- 750 ww (would not be surprised if it made more though)

 

[socool]

Comic book fans are not the one who bring in the most money. Just the opposite. Comic book fans are a drop in the bucket of a movie's overall gross. If you took the number of fans that buy the comics every month and translated that into ticket sales, the movie itself would bomb.

The general audience decides the fate of a movie. The people that have no vested interest in Spidey but are just looking to see an entertaining film and get their money's worth. Those are the one's who bring in the most amount of money.

Here's the thing. What the fans think, whether they love or hate the costume, or the direction of this film are irrelevant because they'll be there to see the movie (and voting with their wallets) regardless.

Just to play Devil's Advocate, even if all the Comic book fans boycotted this film or any other superhero film, they would barely make a dent in the overall gross.

I didn't literally mean comic book fans. I meant people who enjoy superheroes as a whole. Superheroes stretch to a wide array of mediums which means they've gained new followers. That's the kind of people I meant.

 

[Liam_H]

Then you would basically be referring to most of the GA, although some of the luster has worn off.

 

[Scarlet Spider]

I didn't literally mean comic book fans. I meant people who enjoy superheroes as a whole. Superheroes stretch to a wide array of mediums which means they've gained new followers. That's the kind of people I meant.

I see.

I'd still classify those people as the general audience though, as opposed to being part of a fandom, like you, I, and everyone else here. All they care about is being entertained for two hours and getting their money's worth.

The reboot doesn't need to gross as much as the previous films. It just needs to reinvigorate the brand and set the stage for future films.

 

[socool]

Then you would basically be referring to most of the GA, although some of the luster has worn off.

Since when? So nobody that goes to see the movie goes to see it to have fun? They all go because they enjoy the character? I'm not a Bond fan, but I still see the movies because they are fun. Do I not exist?

 

[Scarlet Spider]

Since when? So nobody that goes to see the movie goes to see it to have fun? They all go because they enjoy the character? I'm not a Bond fan, but I still see the movies because they are fun. Do I not exist?

Your exactly what I was referring to. If anything, your the type that brings in the majority of a film's gross. Your not necessarily a Bond fan but you go see his movies because their fun and you get enjoyment out of them.

 

[SoNicRaDiATioN]

Comic book fans are not the one who bring in the most money. Just the opposite. Comic book fans are a drop in the bucket of a movie's overall gross. If you took the number of fans that buy the comics every month and translated that into ticket sales, the movie itself would bomb.

The general audience decides the fate of a movie. The people that have no vested interest in Spidey but are just looking to see an entertaining film and get their money's worth. Those are the one's who bring in the most amount of money.

Here's the thing. What the fans think, whether they love or hate the costume, or the direction of this film are irrelevant because they'll be there to see the movie (and voting with their wallets) regardless.

Just to play Devil's Advocate, even if all the Comic book fans boycotted this film or any other superhero film, they would barely make a dent in the overall gross.

Well said.

 

[Liam_H]

Since when? So nobody that goes to see the movie goes to see it to have fun? They all go because they enjoy the character? I'm not a Bond fan, but I still see the movies because they are fun. Do I not exist?

I have no idea how you got that from what I said.

 

[SoNicRaDiATioN]

I think the first trailer was something to establish the overall tone of the movie more than anything, we'll find out more with the next trailer.

Completely agree with this.

It will make 400m domestic EASY.

I would agree with this if TDKR wasn't coming a short three weeks after. And although I believe that TDKR will not completely steal ASM's audience if the film is good and has legs, the close release dates of two tentpoles of this magnitude can't help either of the film's bottom line.

 

[Liam_H]

Technically its 2 weeks but ASM is opening on a Tuesday to capitalize on 4th of July holiday. Nonetheless this weird opening is gonna help just like it did for the first Transformers.

 

[SoNicRaDiATioN]

Your right, two weeks +. I just moved ASM back to Friday the 29th in my head and assume Sony will eventually do the same. Four extra days and a weekend to boot.

 

[Liam_H]

I don't see them doing that because GI Joe 2 is gonna come out on the 29th. They'll both take business away from each other, but with ASM opening a few days later it'll destroy it.

 

[SoNicRaDiATioN]

I don't see them doing that because GI Joe 2 is gonna come out on the 29th. They'll both take business away from each other, but with ASM opening a few days later it'll destroy it.

I agree with this, but I keep going back and forth on what would be the best move to optimize the B.O. before TDKR is released. Another poster pointed out that if Sony moved ASM to the 29th then Paramount would run scared and move GI Joe. Now it would make sense for them to do so, but that is no guarantee they would. Spidey would crush GI Joe no matter what, but ASM would definitely have some of it's audience spill over to Joe. On July 3rd it would no doubt open even bigger, but you would still lose the four days (and weekend) overall. Three full weeks with three weekends, or a bigger opening with a little over two weeks and two weekends?

 

[Ultra Lantern]

$310-400m