The Amazing Spider-Man The Amazing Spider-Man General Discussion & Speculation Thread - - Part 11

[Spiderdevil]

Finished the game BTW,the last level is on some bring from which the lizard is flinging cars off

 

[Spiderdevil]

um wasn't that what the wrestling costume in SM1 was...a hoodie with a ski mask

Not exactly,It consisted of a blue cargo pants along with a t-shirt with the spider emblem.Also a mask

While this prototype costume is completely normal clothes save the mask

 

[roach]

Not exactly,It consisted of a blue cargo pants along with a t-shirt with the spider emblem.Also a mask

While this prototype costume is completely normal clothes save the mask

sweat pants, Sweat shirt and a ski mask...something teenagers have access to

 

[Oscorp]

Marc Webb: This picture in no way can receive any crude or sexual remarks so I'm gonna post it!

Hahaha my thoughts as well!

 

[Troy_Parker]

Old, but I thought I'd post this again for anybody who's thinking that Uncle Ben might not die... or the impact of his death on Peter will somehow be reduced.

(From an interview with Marc Webb)

"The first domino in the story is the parents. He goes out looking for his father and finds himself. That’s my tagline. But Uncle Ben, of course, and his death… well, you have to see the movie!" Webb teased. "But, there’s three elements that Marvel was very protective of and I think are very important parts of the Spider-Man origin story. Uncle Ben’s death transforms him and has a huge impact on him. That’s an incredibly important part of the mythology. I would never subvert that. That’s all I’ll say about that"."

 

[Radioactive]

Old, but I thought I'd post this again for anybody who's thinking that Uncle Ben might not die... or the impact of his death on Peter will somehow be reduced.

(From an interview with Marc Webb)

"The first domino in the story is the parents. He goes out looking for his father and finds himself. That’s my tagline. But Uncle Ben, of course, and his death… well, you have to see the movie!" Webb teased. "But, there’s three elements that Marvel was very protective of and I think are very important parts of the Spider-Man origin story. Uncle Ben’s death transforms him and has a huge impact on him. That’s an incredibly important part of the mythology. I would never subvert that. That’s all I’ll say about that"."

Good to know!

 

[TheWallCrawler]

Doc Ock would be the better physical match for Spidey if we're taking that notion that Webb is taking the inspiration from Nolan's trilogy.

Actually, no. Venom would beat Doc Ock anytime. And also, while Bane is a physical threat to Batman, he's an intellectual threat as well, and Venom is a psychical as well as a psychological threat, so Venom would be more fitting if following the Nolan template

 

[MahvelBaby!]

Ok now that my Avengers hype is over I'ma be concentrating on this, it looks fanfreakingtastic! I had gripes with the costume(I was one of those) But I'm over them now for most part only small nitpick I still have is the shoes. But the movie itself looks fantastic! Gonna be a great year to be a marvel fan at the movies!

 

[AbsractPo3tic]

Actually, no. Venom would beat Doc Ock anytime. And also, while Bane is a physical threat to Batman, he's an intellectual threat as well, and Venom is a psychical as well as a psychological threat, so Venom would be more fitting if following the Nolan template

Yeah I gotta agree with that. Venom is a brute and of course by knowing who Spidey really is and knowing his weaknesses is a plus. Personally, I don't think he's following a template and really just going for what makes sense story wise, as it should be with any villain.

 

[Anno_Domini]

Actually, no. Venom would beat Doc Ock anytime. And also, while Bane is a physical threat to Batman, he's an intellectual threat as well, and Venom is a psychical as well as a psychological threat, so Venom would be more fitting if following the Nolan template

From what we've seen with the cartoons and Spider-Man 3 itself, Venom is NOT both a psychological and physical threat. To think Venom has that over Doc Ock is laughable. There's a difference between Venom stalking Peter's loved ones and being a true psychological threat.

Also, Doc Ock would be the one to beat Venom anytime, anywhere. Venom is only a brute and not that menacing. Guys like Doc Ock and Green Goblin are in the major leagues and would own the symbiote character.

 

[webhead9707]

From what we've seen with the cartoons and Spider-Man 3 itself, Venom is NOT both a psychological and physical threat. To think Venom has that over Doc Ock is laughable. There's a difference between Venom stalking Peter's loved ones and being a true psychological threat.

Also, Doc Ock would be the one to beat Venom anytime, anywhere. Venom is only a brute and not that menacing. Guys like Doc Ock and Green Goblin are in the major leagues and would own the symbiote character.

Venom is far from a mere brute, you should read more comics. He nearly drove Peter Parker insane before revealing himself, I won't say he's smarter than Doc Ock or Green Goblin, but he is a superior villain to Doc Ock because he is VERY physically strong as well as very mentally strong. I personally thing Green Goblin (Norman AND Harry) is the best villain, but that's only my opinion.

 

[Anno_Domini]

Venom is far from a mere brute, you should read more comics. He nearly drove Peter Parker insane before revealing himself, I won't say he's smarter than Doc Ock or Green Goblin, but he is a superior villain to Doc Ock because he is VERY physically strong as well as very mentally strong. I personally thing Green Goblin (Norman AND Harry) is the best villain, but that's only my opinion.

I don't need to read more comics to know that Doc Ock is the superior villain. So you are wrong if you think Venom is superior to Doc Ock.

And yes, I agree that Green Goblin(only Norman Osborn, though) is the better villain of all of Spidey's villains, but....we're not saying who we think is the best villain, lol.

 

[TheWallCrawler]

From what we've seen with the cartoons and Spider-Man 3 itself, Venom is NOT both a psychological and physical threat. To think Venom has that over Doc Ock is laughable. There's a difference between Venom stalking Peter's loved ones and being a true psychological threat.

Also, Doc Ock would be the one to beat Venom anytime, anywhere. Venom is only a brute and not that menacing. Guys like Doc Ock and Green Goblin are in the major leagues and would own the symbiote character.

Ok maybe psychological threat was a wrong word for that, but I just loved in TAS how Venom just played with Spider-man when he could've just squashed him and the stalking loved ones part was good too.

Honestly, when it comes down, Doc Ock isn't just that interesting character storywise, he's a mad scientist with an ego. It's a miracle that how they handled him in Spider-man 2, but that version was almost nothing like the character in comics. They caught a lightning in a bottle, they can't do it that way again. In spectacular spider-man he was pretty close to his comic counterpart while still being interesting, but I don't know if that thing would hold up in a movie

Besides, Doc Ock was done so well that people don't want to see another version of him. Maybe us hardcore spidey fans, but not the majority. So, if you're gonna redo a villain/villains, they might as well try one that didn't get justice the last time

 

[Anno_Domini]

Ok maybe psychological threat was a wrong word for that, but I just loved in TAS how Venom just played with Spider-man when he could've just squashed him and the stalking loved ones part was good too.

Honestly, when it comes down, Doc Ock isn't just that interesting character storywise, he's a mad scientist with an ego. It's a miracle that how they handled him in Spider-man 2, but that version was almost nothing like the character in comics. They caught a lightning in a bottle, they can't do it that way again. In spectacular spider-man he was pretty close to his comic counterpart while still being interesting, but I don't know if that thing would hold up in a movie

Besides, Doc Ock was done so well that people don't want to see another version of him. Maybe us hardcore spidey fans, but not the majority. So, if you're gonna redo a villain/villains, they might as well try one that didn't get justice the last time

And what's Venom? A symbiote that copies Spidey's powers and finds an emotionally depressed man who loses his job? How is that at all any interesting or more than Otto Octavius?

 

[Nathan]

New image. Marc Webb released it on his official Twitter account:

Spoiler

"Is that a tail, or are you just happy to see me?"

 

[Anno_Domini]

Comments like this are ridiculous. Your opinion is BETTER than his? Get out of here...

Lol. Not only my opinion, but a million others.

Get out of here with YOUR nonsense.

 

[Tim_Riggins]

Anno is such a *****e, incredible stuff.

 

[Nathan]

Venom could be a great villain and he could deliver some great action and especially special effects, if they use the Symbiots shape-shifting abilities. I'd really like to see Webb handle him, but I also agree that he shouldn't be re-used in this Trilogy. So I'm crossing my fingers and hope that Webb will make more than 3 Movies.

 

[Anno_Domini]

The funny thing is, I agree with you, but I don't go around parading that my opinion is better than anyone else's. It's mine. It also happens to be yours, but for you to be acting like that is, again, ridiculous.

And numbers don't make something true, or better, that just makes it a POPULAR OPINION. I'm sure you've heard of that before.

I'm not pushing my opinion, but I'm stating that it's silly to say Venom is better than Doc Ock. A CLASSIC villain will always be the better villain. That's just common knowledge. It's like if someone wants to say Miles Morales is better than Peter Parker. It's completely not true.

Anno is such a *****e, incredible stuff.

I know this, but thanks for the compliment sir

 

[Anno_Domini]

Seriously... Unbelievable.

Thank you too

 

[Jick]

Agreed.

Reading these ''this character is superior to yours and it's fact'' posts, I realize now how ridiculous it is. To think I've been among these silly conversations before.

Just enjoy your freaking fictional character. Screw who is superior.

 

[Anno_Domini]

Lol!

Anyone else want to "change the way pricks think"? Hahahaha.

And look at this...did I use name-calling as a tactic? No, but two people objecting to what I said did use that...how pathetic.

 

[mayo23]

Oh yeah, Raimi's spider-man costume is cheesy.

 

[Anno_Domini]

No, just bringing up how you think you have the right to call me out by using name-calling. Really proves your point for sure, haha.

 

[TheWallCrawler]

And what's Venom? A symbiote that copies Spidey's powers and finds an emotionally depressed man who loses his job? How is that at all any interesting or more than Otto Octavius?

Spider-man 3 or even Spectacular Spider-man don't give the best explanation on why Brock is so angry at spider-man. In the comics Brock first loses his job, then his wife, then he can't pay his rent and loses his home.

But I also like that he doesn't really have a good reason to be mad at Spider-man, which is well adressed. Eddie thought that he had actually found out the of Sin-eater (a serial killer), but then Spidey unmasked the real Sin-eater, and the guy who had contacted Brock telling him he's Sin-eater turned out to be a liar. Spidey only did his job, it wasn't an agenda against Brock. But, that unfortunately causes a chain reaction and Brock loses everything

We all had those moments in life, where something unfair happends to us, and when you can do nothing about it, you just blame someone else about it, that makes Brock a potentially sympathetic and a real character. That's why I loved the theme of revenge in Spider-man 3 (before I saw it) and that Venom and Harry as Goblin was gonna be in it. Sad that they didn't pull that off.

I'm not saying that you're completely wrong, Doc Ock could be more interesting than Venom, I just can't imagine how. If you have ideas on how they could portray him again the way he would hold up in a movie go ahead and tell me. I really don't want this to get ugly, I just wanna have a nice argument