The Amazing Spider-Man The Amazing Spider-Man General Discussion & Speculation Thread - - - Part 12

[AbsractPo3tic]

I guess your right. The crowds I saw the trailers with just sucked lol.

And that too. Some crowds just suck..I see it at movies, sporting events, anything..some crowds just aren't into stuff, some are.

 

[Scarlettess]

Sam Rami was really fighting for Vulture in his Spidey movies. In the early stages of production for Spider Man 3, there was talks to shoot 3 and 4 back to back and Vulture and Sandman where to be the villians in part 3 and Venom and New Goblin in Part 4. Personally, I am not a big Vulture fan so it didn't bother me too much. But I did like the aspect of them shooting part 3 and 4 back to back.

where did you hear this? I thought it was always Vulture, Sandman and New Goblin in SM3, and then Venom was pushed in. However if this is true it kinda makes me a little bit sad that we didnt get that, but at the same time, we wouldnt have the reboot so....i'm over it

but yeah I've been vouching for Electro ever since Spider-Man 2, he's definately one of my favs.

 

[Streetlight]

I'd like Vulture, my issue would be that along with the Lizard and Green Goblin there would seem to be some sort of green theme going on

 

[Oscorp]

It's not too hard to alter the colours though. Vulture has worn a black suit before.

 

[Drummerdude7]

If there's one thing I liked about Raimi, it was his love of the classic villains. I'm interested as to how his Vulture would have turned out. Of course, there was also "Vulturess"....which really scared me hahaha.

 

[Jostru]

It's not too hard to alter the colours though. Vulture has worn a black suit before.

Or red, like in TSSM.

I would like Vulture to be in one of the sequels as well.

Vulture, Electro and, for some reason, Kraven interest me.

Green Goblin has to return as well, of course, but I'd prefer him to be in the third movie. Introduce Norman and Harry in ASM2 and bring Goblin for ASM3.

I also like the idea of villains like Rhino or Shocker being some sort of opening villains.

 

[Oscorp]

Kraven uses potions and stuff, what if Webb & Co somehow makes that connect to the future Goblin serum?

 

[Spideyfan93]

Kraven could really be a great villain but for some reason I don't see him being in this particular set of Spidey films.

Because quite frankly, the way they are setting up this story for the trilogy...Gobby is definitely going to show up. Side villains are anyone's guess but certain ones are more probable than others.

My bet's are on Electro, Shocker as a side supporting villain, and Scorpion.

 

[Drummerdude7]

Not that I am opposed to Shocker being in a future film...but why does everyone want to see him so badly?

 

[Oscorp]

Kraven could really be a great villain but for some reason I don't see him being in this particular set of Spidey films.

Because quite frankly, the way they are setting up this story for the trilogy...Gobby is definitely going to show up. Side villains are anyone's guess but certain ones are more probable than others.

My bet's are on Electro, Shocker as a side supporting villain, and Scorpion.

I almost feel the other way. Kraven seems to fit quite perfectly here.

Spoiler

According to some details about the ASM game, it seems like some people actually will get infected by that rocket-with-blue-stuff seen in the trailers. It sets up perfectly for Kraven to come to NY to kill them, ending up having Spidey as the main target instead (and it could lead to something inspired heavily by Kraven's Last Hunt, which would be awesome!). Also, I can imagine that the potions that Kraven uses could lead to Osborn discover about them and use it to create his own Goblin formula, setting up for Green Goblin in ASM3.

 

[RealIrOnMaN]

Shocker, Goblin, Mysterio, Chameleon and Electro + JJJ (my favorite villain, lol kidding) = success. They all are equally marvelous and interesting, if done right.

I say thee nay to the likes of Vulture, Hydro-Man, Kraven, Scorpion, symbiotes and etc. This franchise has enough going on and does not need them at all.

 

[RealIrOnMaN]

Not that I am opposed to Shocker being in a future film...but why does everyone want to see him so badly?

I always thought that with his powers you can make him more, than a skillful henchman. You can actually try to present him as a criminal mastermind (almost like Crime Master of the old Spidey comics), who ends up working for Goblin (assuming, that Oscorp secretly provides all the high tech stuff).

 

[eLPAtitoyUPI]

Shocker is a villain that puts things pretty hard to Spidey. It shouldn't be the main villain, but maybe the opening one or the secondary one.

But please. Not the lame Ultimate version. That's probably the worst version of any villain in the Ultimate comics. Otherwise, I would love the Ultimate Venom/Carnage, they are much more awesome than the 616 versions.

 

[Spiderdevil]

How about Carnage?

 

[Spideyfan93]

Kraven is a badass first of all, physically and mentally.
He is also intimidating and scary as hell, physically and mentally.

You know, maybe he could fit in this generation of the Spidey franchise. And as for the last 4 or 5 years, my main choice of Gerard Butler has not changed. He is my ideal casting choice but there are some great actors that have emerged that show potential.

I can see the good brother from WARRIOR playing him. He's got the acting chops and the physicality is already there.

 

[AbsractPo3tic]

How about Carnage?

Carnage as is? Nah, but he could be made to be a better villain and more compelling than he is

 

[Oscorp]

I always thought that with his powers you can make him more, than a skillful henchman. You can actually try to present him as a criminal mastermind (almost like Crime Master of the old Spidey comics), who ends up working for Goblin (assuming, that Oscorp secretly provides all the high tech stuff).

I view Shocker as fitting in a position like this:

Mob boss (e.g. Tombstone)
Shocker
Criminals

With Shocker working for the mob boss, but being the leader "on the field" of the criminals, doing bank robberies and stuff like that, wreaking havoc in NY!

Shocker really has the personality for that kind of role and would be really badass with the suit almost entirely as it looks like in the comics, and the gauntlets with his awesome vibro blasts which could look amazing on the big screen with Webb at the helm!

 

[RealIrOnMaN]

How about Carnage?

No, no and no. Certainly not in this franchise (and I hope not in the future ones as well). Carnage is just a 90's relic that really needs to be forgotten and buried.

 

[RealIrOnMaN]

I view Shocker as fitting in a position like this:

Mob boss (e.g. Tombstone)
Shocker
Criminals

With Shocker working for the mob boss, but being the leader "on the field" of the criminals, doing bank robberies and stuff like that, wreaking havoc in NY!

Shocker really has the personality for that kind of role and would be really badass with the suit almost entirely as it looks like in the comics, and the gauntlets with his awesome vibro blasts which could look amazing on the big screen with Webb at the helm!

Yeeees) Great minds think alike) Like Tony Stark said in the Avengers: "Finally, someone who speaks English!"))

 

[Drummerdude7]

A thousand times no for Carnage. There are plenty of villains I'd rather see that have more depth in their pinky fingers than him. I'm done to death with symbiotes. Venom included.

 

[Spiderdevil]

Carnage as is? Nah, but he could be made to be a better villain and more compelling than he is

Always liked the idea of Symbiote invasion like the PSX game along with a super villian like DocOck

 

[Anno_Domini]

Well, that of course works so well because mainstream audience rarely even remembers Bane being in the movie if they haven't seen it in a while.

While Spider-man 3 venom was a complete disaster, the character still kinda was there and wasn't 110% raped like Bane was so yeah, I agree that there's no point in redoing him just because he was dissapointing. Though, I still think that Webb could give us a terrific Venom

Venom was definitely used better than Bane. I mean, Bane was freaking green in B&R, lol, but Venom wasn't used up to his potential. That can't be the case when Venom was only in the film for like twelve minutes. While not as disappointing, I would call Venom being used a disappointment because the symbiote wasn't understood by the writer/director and neither was Venom and they were just used because he had a fan base that likes Venom; that's all. When it comes to that, I definitely think he should be used, but definitely not in Webb's trilogy. The next series of films? You bet....Venom needs to be used again and get his redemption as much as Bane will be getting his in TDKR.

Mysterio and Electro <3
They need to be in ASM 2.

Maybe it's because of that stale taste from Spider-Man 3, but I wonder if there should be more than one villain in a Spidey film. I know it has to do with how it's written, but the idea worries me a bit because the only example we have is Spider-Man 3.

But....either of those villains would be fantastic to see in a sequel and marvelous to the eyes, especially in a 3D movie.

How about the Punisher? He would be awesome,He would be a misinformed hero hunting for Spiderman,add a Psychological villian like KingPin/Mysterio(Buy him from Fox please Sony),That should be it for ASM2

Webb can introduce someone like Venom in ASM3 had have him kill off Gwen Stacy(Dont want GG or DocOck to be repeated)

GG is more sensible to use in this new trilogy with the tie-ins to OsCorp, but why would you pick Venom and not GG?

Plus...no to Punisher. Just...heck no. Punisher is a hero.

An Electro battle in Times Square...chamon. How awesome would that be? Awesome is how awesome.

Agreed

How about Carnage?

No.

 

[Scarlettess]

I don't get the hate towards Carnage, though he shouldn't be done unless Venom is done first, and there is no way he will be in a PG13 movie to do him justice.

 

[Spideyfan93]

Symbiote brings in the audiences but yeah I agree, **** the symbiote.

Maybe someday...someday...in a decade or two, when they decide to actually plan and create a multi-film story involving it making it therefore engaging and emotional, then we could see Venom again. But, **** it. As a 12 year old, I wanted nothing else but to see Venom on the big screen. I'll never forget that hype and my excitement from 2005 to May 2007. But seriously, take Carnage and Venom and throw them in the garbage. We don't need to see them in cinema for a long time, if ever any longer.

The damage has been done.

 

[Anno_Domini]

I don't hate the symbiotes at all...I even like Toxin, lol, but....there shouldn't be anymore symbiotes seen on film for a while.

I'd rather that wait and we get a trilogy of films directly focusing on the symbiotes. Or at least we should get an animated trilogy.