The Amazing Spider-Man The Amazing Spider-Man General Discussion & Speculation Thread - - - - Part 14

[Spidey_62]

I just died a little

This picture is so awesome.

 

[Picard Sisko]

So let's say that Peter's father did an experiment on him when he was young, and the spider bite "activated" his powers. Does that necessarily mean the movie will be bad? It is a good idea, it is just how they execute it.

 

[mayo23]

So let's say that Peter's father did an experiment on him when he was young, and the spider bite "activated" his powers. Does that necessarily mean the movie will be bad? It is a good idea, it is just how they execute it.

No. It will just piss off a lot of people because it's not faithful to the origin and because "supposedly" changes the character.

 

[AbsractPo3tic]

No. It will just piss off a lot of people because it's not faithful to the origin and because "supposedly" changes the character.

Word. It doesn't change who Peter is or what he's about..it just changes how he got his powers. I know it's not entirely the same but Bruce being trained by the league of shadows and having his tech designed by Lucius Fox doesn't mean he's no longer Bruce Wayne

 

[Anno_Domini]

Exactly. Not even saying that Harry would be a focus but I just want to see something interesting. You love the current Batman films so I'm sure you'll agree with me when I say that one of the things I love about what Nolan has done with Batman, is take the characters, remaining as true to them as he can, but putting them in different situations than the comics, for the most part. He's not a slave to comic continuity and saying that this has to happen this way or that way, he does what works best for the story he wants to tell while keeping the characters intact. THAT is how you do an adaptation. I'm hoping Marc Webb and his writers are doing the same thing that Nolan did and Greg Weisman did on Spectacular Spider-Man

Definitely agree with that notion, although I would be totally fine if Webb decides to kill off Gwen Stacy during a bridge fight with Spider-Man and a little ol' villain named Green Goblin, haha.

But, let's not forget that BB and TDK weren't created just out of the blue. Nolan was inspired by Year One for BB and The Long Halloween for TDK. It's true with what you're saying, but it is fine to get some inspiration from the comics/graphic novels.

It's probably Andrew's stuntdouble William Spencer. The dude's an awesome skater.

Though it looks like William is the guy on the left (him and Andrew look REALLY similar), so I dunno.

I must say they definitely do look similar if that guy is really Andrew's stunt double, haha.

So let's say that Peter's father did an experiment on him when he was young, and the spider bite "activated" his powers. Does that necessarily mean the movie will be bad? It is a good idea, it is just how they execute it.

Well, it happened with Hulk and I still enjoyed the film although I wasn't fond of Bruce's dad testing on him.

 

[PSYLENTGuardian]

I just died a little

I knew it. We'd be getting the Clone Saga.

Show's over here, folks. This movie's going to reek.

 

[AbsractPo3tic]

Definitely agree with that notion, although I would be totally fine if Webb decides to kill off Gwen Stacy during a bridge fight with Spider-Man and a little ol' villain named Green Goblin, haha.

But, let's not forget that BB and TDK weren't created just out of the blue. Nolan was inspired by Year One for BB and The Long Halloween for TDK. It's true with what you're saying, but it is fine to get some inspiration from the comics/graphic novels.



I must say they definitely do look similar if that guy is really Andrew's stunt double, haha.



Well, it happened with Hulk and I still enjoyed the film although I wasn't fond of Bruce's dad testing on him.

Oh yeah of course he was inspired, some of the shots in the dark knight are direct homages to the long halloween and the same with batman begins and year one, but he took ideas from those stories and crafted his own thing is my point and I'm hoping this story can do the same thing..take good ideas and try to make them into something else entirely. He could do an exact replica of Gwen dying though because that hasn't been done. There are several lizard/spider-man battles I'm sure they've done homages to also. I just don't want him or his writers to feel like they HAVE to put certain things in just to appease fans...fans get more pissed when your execution sucks so don't suck up to them just for the hell of it

 

[Picard Sisko]

No. It will just piss off a lot of people because it's not faithful to the origin and because "supposedly" changes the character.

That's unfortunate that Spider-Man purists won't enjoy it. This portrayal of Peter Parker appears to be very accurate in terms of character. So what if the origin is slightly changed? It will make the movie more interesting. I don't want to see the same exact origin we got in the 2002 film, I want something new. And in order to give us something new, there has to be some kind of twist.

I am a huge Spider-Man fan, but I understand that there are so many incarnations of the character in the comics. It isn't a big deal if they change things around for the movie. AS LONG AS IT IS DONE WELL!

 

[Picard Sisko]

Oh yeah of course he was inspired, some of the shots in the dark knight are direct homages to the long halloween and the same with batman begins and year one, but he took ideas from those stories and crafted his own thing is my point and I'm hoping this story can do the same thing..take good ideas and try to make them into something else entirely. He could do an exact replica of Gwen dying though because that hasn't been done. There are several lizard/spider-man battles I'm sure they've done homages to also. I just don't want him or his writers to feel like they HAVE to put certain things in just to appease fans...fans get more pissed when your execution sucks so don't suck up to them just for the hell of it

The shot of Spider-Man and Lizard fighting in the sewer is taken right out of Amazing Spider-Man #6

 

[AbsractPo3tic]

The shot of Spider-Man and Lizard fighting in the sewer is taken right out of Amazing Spider-Man #6

Geez it's been so long since I've read that..you're right though. They keep mentioning "Torment" so I'm sure there will be some homages to that also

 

[Picard Sisko]

Geez it's been so long since I've read that..you're right though. They keep mentioning "Torment" so I'm sure there will be some homages to that also

There is a trade paperback called "Spider-man: Secret Origins." It has several comic books that inspired the movie, so its worth checking out!

 

[mayo23]

That's unfortunate that Spider-Man purists won't enjoy it. This portrayal of Peter Parker appears to be very accurate in terms of character. So what if the origin is slightly changed? It will make the movie more interesting. I don't want to see the same exact origin we got in the 2002 film, I want something new. And in order to give us something new, there has to be some kind of twist.

I am a huge Spider-Man fan, but I understand that there are so many incarnations of the character in the comics. It isn't a big deal if they change things around for the movie. AS LONG AS IT IS DONE WELL!

That's how I see it. In some ways, I feel characterization is much more important to a faithful adaptation than a particular event especially in this case since we've already seen a very faithful origin done on screen. However, I can understand why people would be mad at the change because the spider bite being a complete accident is in part significant to the character.

 

[Picard Sisko]

That's how I see it. In some ways, I feel characterization is much more important to a faithful adaptation than a particular event especially in this case since we've already seen a very faithful origin done on screen. However, I can understand why people would be mad at the change because the spider bite being a complete accident is in part significant to the character.

The spider bite would still be an accident though. Nobody planned (I'm assuming) on having Peter go in the Spider room and getting bit by a spider.

 

[AbsractPo3tic]

The spider bite would still be an accident though. Nobody planned (I'm assuming) on having Peter go in the Spider room and getting bit by a spider.

You're right, it's still an accident either way. I know Richard is a genius but there's no way he's that much of a genius where he can plan an elaborate scheme where his son, at age 16/17, would wander into Oscorp, then into a room full of radioactive/altered spiders and then get bitten by the science bug

 

[Picard Sisko]

You're right, it's still an accident either way. I know Richard is a genius but there's no way he's that much of a genius where he can plan an elaborate scheme where his son, at age 16/17, would wander into Oscorp, then into a room full of radioactive/altered spiders and then get bitten by the science bug

LOL exactly. Him getting tested on or whatever as a kid wouldn't be an accident.

Even in the 2003 Hulk, the gamma explosion was an accident. I'm sure the dismissal of his powers in TASM is referring to something in his past. NOT the spider bite.

 

[AbsractPo3tic]

Today was a good day for TASM, not sure why. But I'm reeaaallly excited.

That and because in a half hour, it's June 1, meaning the premier is a few weeks away and us US cats will be able to see it in a little more than a month..and also maybe because I keep seeing him everywhere so the anticipation is starting to get to me

 

[mayo23]

You're right, it's still an accident either way. I know Richard is a genius but there's no way he's that much of a genius where he can plan an elaborate scheme where his son, at age 16/17, would wander into Oscorp, then into a room full of radioactive/altered spiders and then get bitten by the science bug

I was referring to the rumor that there was something in his DNA, which doesn't necessarily make him an "everyman" anymore. but
yeah, you're right.

 

[PSYLENTGuardian]

Today was a good day for TASM, not sure why. But I'm reeaaallly excited.

Well, the marketing's just kicking in, so that's nice t:

 

[AbsractPo3tic]

I was referring to the rumor that there was something in his DNA, which doesn't necessarily make him an "everyman" anymore. but
yeah, you're right.

I still don't agree with that sentiment but I can see the other side of it. To me, what makes Peter an everyman is the issues he deals with..girls, school, job, money, family..he goes through the same ups and downs that every person has dealt with. If his dad messed with his DNA, it doesn't change any of the stuff he'll have to deal with but I understand the other side of the argument as well, I just disagree

 

[Picard Sisko]

I still don't agree with that sentiment but I can see the other side of it. To me, what makes Peter an everyman is the issues he deals with..girls, school, job, money, family..he goes through the same ups and downs that every person has dealt with. If his dad messed with his DNA, it doesn't change any of the stuff he'll have to deal with but I understand the other side of the argument as well, I just disagree

Even if there is something in his DNA, it won't change the fact that Peter is a nerd, and faces many problems as listed above.

 

[arana_cito]

Purists would be mad cause the new origin does away with the notion of the possibility that it could have been "any of us" that were bitten, spiderman could be anybody.

 

[Web face]

Is it weird that I am excited for when RIM gets to see the movie early? I just really want to hear what he thinks of the movie.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Purists would be mad cause the new origin does away with the notion of the possibility that it could have been "any of us" that were bitten, spiderman could be anybody.

I'd be more annoyed by the fact that it is cliche' storytelling. They're adding elements that basically make Peter's transition to super being inevitable in order to connect his arc to the villains, and I think it is a weaker story than the one about a guy who got them out of random chance. This is Joker creating Batman by killing the Waynes and Batman dropping Napier in the acid all over again. For the record, I like but don't love Batman 89. But, it's an example of basically the same movie in that regard.

 

[Picard Sisko]

is it weird that i am excited for when rim gets to see the movie early? I just really want to hear what he thinks of the movie.

rim?

 

[Web face]

Real Iron Man. I thought I capitalized the letters. Guess not.