The Amazing Spider-Man The Amazing Spider-Man General Discussion & Speculation Thread - - - - - Part 15

[GENERAL RAAM582]

I will agree with that, I honestly feel Raimi did kinda screw up a lot of things.

 

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The ASM Facebook page just posted the 4-Minute preview, now with 1 Million fans they can just shut the heck up already, its annoying to hear "This ist the real spider-man" and "Why is MJ blonde?" and "Why does he use machines there gay"
Stupid people. I blame Raimi

I blame the lack of an education

 

[Anno_Domini]

"Why is MJ blonde?" has been a joke for some time, so I don't think they're saying that to sound moronic. It's been a joke for a while since so many people thought Emma was going to be Mary Jane.

As for the others, I wouldn't say "blame Raimi". It's not his fault that some people who watched Raimi's trilogy has no idea that Spidey does use webshooters.

 

[GENERAL RAAM582]

I just don't like people who have had all there knowledge come from that trilogy, thus every movie must be like that trilogy.

 

[AF3619]

Stupid people. I blame Raimi

Hey many grew up with Raimi trilogy, it bothers me too that people are closed to new stuff, but he movies are great but then they see The Amazing Spiderman well they may be AMAZEDt: i hope so

 

[SpiderMarvelite]

I kinda do. I mean c'mon they say this because yes he did screw up by not using them in his films, they have no clue what that is.

Oh and why the freak did you need to be a Grammar Nazi?
I mistyped something:
"******" I must be..hmm?
Please try to get that voice^

 

[SpiderMarvelite]

I just don't like people who have had all there knowledge come from that trilogy, thus every movie must be like that trilogy.

This.

 

[Anno_Domini]

I kinda do. I mean c'mon they say this because yes he did screw up by not using them in his films, they have no clue what that is.

Oh and why the freak did you need to be a Grammar Nazi?
I mistyped something:
"******" I must be..hmm?
Please try to get that voice^

It's being just as stupid to blame Raimi as the people bashing on TAS-M because it's not a film by Raimi. Sam Raimi wanted to use organic webbing and it fit with his series. It was his choice. The people complaining over them are at fault because they're too lazy to figure out that Spidey does use webshooters and doesn't have organic webbing.

 

[Anno_Domini]

I just don't like people who have had all there knowledge come from that trilogy, thus every movie must be like that trilogy.

When the next Batman films start rolling it, people will ***** about Batman not being trained by the League of Shadows if they give us another origin, lol.

 

[SpiderMarvelite]

When I saw the Aussie trailer, I think I get how Lizzies gonna sound now. Like a Dinosaur

 

[Thwip!]

I kinda do. I mean c'mon they say this because yes he did screw up by not using them in his films, they have no clue what that is.

Oh and why the freak did you need to be a Grammar Nazi?
I mistyped something:
"******" I must be..hmm?
Please try to get that voice^

Aimed at me? Not an attack at your grammar mate, more so nitpicking at the phrases they chose. The idea that "this isnt the real spider-man" (meant to highlight the whole of that phrase when i quoted you btw) when in fact it's (from what we've heard so far) somewhat more faithful to the comics than Raimi's were is odd to me and i just dislike the idea of calling something you dont like gay. So once again, wasnt attacking your grammar (would be silly to as mine is generally crap) was more so talking bout how the people who are commenting on the preview with those kind of remarks need to be educated on the comics and not just the trilogy before they go about *****slappin' the new movie

 

[SpiderMarvelite]

I see, well thats all good then.
But yeah its freakin annoying, with million fans every comment keeps pouring in...

But more than want to see it, im sure the haters will see this.

 

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I see, well thats all good then.
But yeah its freakin annoying, with million fans every comment keeps pouring in...

But more than want to see it, im sure the haters will see this.

Yay

I just saw there now that people are still commenting on that preview about the snout....same people that need an education in the comics.

The haters will see it as they hope they'll be proven right, the people who love it will be first in line and if they love what they see then they'll line up multiple times. Same way i saw Scott Pilgrim 3 times and Avengers 4 times. I wanted those movies, they surpassed my expectations so i returned for more

 

[DeathChill]

I read some of the comments. They are indeed ridiculous.

 

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I read some of the comments. They are indeed ridiculous.

Just not feelin' this. Would have liked a Sinister 6, with the original guy that played Octopus coming back to lead the same guy as Sandman, then Mysterio, Kraven, Lizard (of course, can't be controlled and is part of their downfall) and Vulture. In the end (closing credits) we find Norman Osborne is behind their run through the city. Partial sequel/partial reboot similar to X Men first class. No more puss villains, make them actual evil and not just disgruntled (Octopus over his wife in SM 2, Sandman over losing his daughter, going to jail, feeling bad about the shooting in SM 3).

an example

 

[Naite22]

Spiderman 1 was heartfelt, charming, and impressive in some ways - for its time. It was also corny and a bit campy in several places. But I really dug it, and I still have a sweet spot for it. It was well balanced, and "cute".

Spiderman 2 is without a doubt the strongest of the whole bunch. It touched upon the epic scenarios in several areas, including spideys return and the whole clocktower/train battle. It still gets to me. Visuals of Spidey fighting Doc Ock on the side of the train is still ****ing badass and impressive. It had very little camp, and the story was also balanced and heartfelt. The movie felt much bigger then the first, and the effects was incredibly much amped up.

Spiderman 3??? Uhh. The effects was great.

Raimi started all this. I thank him for what he did, with the first two films. Without those, Webb's spidey would never have seen the light of day, and it surely wouldn't have the style that it seems to have. It's because of Raimi that the style of Webb's film is what it is. Had spidey 3 not failed (I know it earned a killing, but the movie was really bad and tiring), then Andrew Garfield would not be seen in tv spots and trailers to a new reboot of the character, opening in 30 days, as seen on tv right_now. If Spidey 3 had been up there with Spidey 2, than the title on screen today would not have read "The Amazing Spiderman". No, it would have read "SPIDER-MAN 4", STILL starring Maguire.

The Raimi series was great for its time, but that time has surely passed. Move over! Webb & Co. is coming to tear You a new one! And I have a strong feeling that ones this film opens worldwide, the question as to WHY the reboot, will be answered in amazing ways. And people will finally get it! It has all the potential in the world to win over its skeptical audience. (Here's to hope)

 

[SpiderMarvelite]

Like some comments are just downright DUMB and un-educated comic wise, they dont know the proper source all they have is the Raimi films that's it, some may have seen the 90s show.

They make me want to do this...

 

[Picard Sisko]

Spiderman 1 was heartfelt, charming, and impressive in some ways - for its time. It was also corny and a bit campy in several places. But I really dug it, and I still have a sweet spot for it. It was well balanced, and "cute".

Spiderman 2 is without a doubt the strongest of the whole bunch. It touched upon the epic scenarios in several areas, including spideys return and the whole clocktower/train battle. It still gets to me. Visuals of Spidey fighting Doc Ock on the side of the train is still ****ing badass and impressive. It had very little camp, and the story was also balanced and heartfelt. The movie felt much bigger then the first, and the effects was incredibly much amped up.

Spiderman 3??? Uhh. The effects was great.

Raimi started all this. I thank him for what he did, with the first two films. Without those, Webb's spidey would never have seen the light of day, and it surely wouldn't have the style that it seems to have. It's because of Raimi that the style of Webb's film is what it is. Had spidey 3 not failed (I know it earned a killing, but the movie was really bad and tiring), then Andrew Garfield would not be seen in tv spots and trailers to a new reboot of the character, opening in 30 days, as seen on tv right_now. If Spidey 3 had been up there with Spidey 2, than the title on screen today would not have read "The Amazing Spiderman". No, it would have read "SPIDER-MAN 4", STILL starring Maguire.

The Raimi series was great for its time, but that time has surely passed. Move over! Webb & Co. is coming to tear You a new one! And I have a strong feeling that ones this film opens worldwide, the question as to WHY the reboot, will be answered in amazing ways. And people will finally get it! It has all the potential in the world to win over its skeptical audience. (Here's to hope)

Agreed.

Like some comments are just downright DUMB and un-educated comic wise, they dont know the proper source all they have is the Raimi films that's it, some may have seen the 90s show.

They make me want to do this...

lol

 

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Like some comments are just downright DUMB and un-educated comic wise, they dont know the proper source all they have is the Raimi films that's it, some may have seen the 90s show.

They make me want to do this...

In a parallel universe there are large entire groups of people who solely use Spider-man Unlimited as their Spider-man source

 

[Picard Sisko]

In a parallel universe there are large entire groups of people who solely use Spider-man Unlimited as their Spider-man source

"The new movie looks terrible. His costume looks nothing like the Spider-Man Unlimited suit at all! And he can't turn invisible! And where are the humanoid animals? Marc Webb really screwed us over!"

 

[SpiderMarvelite]

"The new movie looks terrible. His costume looks nothing like the Spider-Man Unlimited suit at all! And he can't turn invisible! And where are the humanoid animals? Marc Webb really screwed us over!"

Lol "Where the heck is the Spider on his arm, **** suit gonna fail."
t:

 

[Anno_Domini]

It's also the same thing with this movie though. Some will say they're un-educated with the comments, but this film is taking itself away from the comics as well with the origin and what not, lol. It's dumb that people make obnoxious and un-educated remarks, but in no way should we say that while others are saying this movie will be more faithful.

 

[BobbyCorwin88]

It's also the same thing with this movie though. Some will say they're un-educated with the comments, but this film is taking itself away from the comics as well with the origin and what not, lol. It's dumb that people make obnoxious and un-educated remarks, but in no way should we say that while others are saying this movie will be more faithful.

Agreed, but I still argue that this movie is more faithful than the previous trilogy, origin changes aside.

It just feels much more like the Spider-Man I'm familiar with. Raimi's Spidey was very much stuck in the 60's, which is fine I guess if you're into that era. He obviously grew up with it so I can't really fault him for wanting to pull his character out of there. But the problem with that was the fact that Peter had been out of his dopey teenager stage for over 50 years in the comics. Ever since I was a kid, Peter Parker was very cool, calm and collected. He was always sure of himself. Sure he was down on his luck and a bit nerdy, but those have always been his mainstays. Raimi's Peter was a socially awkward dope who looked and acted like an old-timey school boy. It's not 1960 Sam Raimi! Peter has very much evolved since then. I can understand wanting to pull inspiration from what you grew up with, but even the kid audience of SM1 (I believe I was about 12 or 13 at the time) had grown up with the Spider-Man animated series and at least 20 years worth of comics that have portrayed Spidey as a mature adult who was actually a pretty cool guy. He also had tons of Spider gadgets and lots of know-how when it came to the superhero biz.

Now take Webb's version. This Peter Parker is very much based on his Ultimate counterpart, which as we all know is a very recent and updated iteration of the character. And it's probably the most appropriate to pull from because all Ultimate Spidey focused on was the teenage Peter Parker, and it was pulled off quite excellently I might add. If you ask me, this is far more appropriate to do with a character like Spider-Man who has been around for over 60 years. If you want to appeal to a young crowd, or even a more modern crowd for that matter, don't pull a kid out of the 60's and throw him into the 21st century. Use a kid from that era with real world problems facing real world situations that many of us face. Have him respond how people today would respond and act like people today act. It also doesn't hurt that they are diving into the scientific genius side of Peter Parker, something Raimi barely touched on in favor of a love triangle.

Raimi did capture a Spider-Man that was faithful to his comic roots, but sadly he was about 50 years too late, and this is why he doesn't resonate with me. I just didn't grow up with him and quite frankly I have a hard time taking him seriously. I'm grateful for what Raimi did for the genre, but I haven't been interested in his take on Spidey for some time now. It's very refreshing for me to see Webb take this property, update it, and still keep the core of the character intact. I'm really excited to see how it all plays out.

 

[Radioactive]

 

[SpiderMarvelite]