The Amazing Spider-Man The Amazing Spider-Man General Discussion & Speculation Thread - - - - - Part 15

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Agreed, but I still argue that this movie is more faithful than the previous trilogy, origin changes aside.

It just feels much more like the Spider-Man I'm familiar with. Raimi's Spidey was very much stuck in the 60's, which is fine I guess if you're into that era. He obviously grew up with it so I can't really fault him for wanting to pull his character out of there. But the problem with that was the fact that Peter had been out of his dopey teenager stage for over 50 years in the comics. Ever since I was a kid, Peter Parker was very cool, calm and collected. He was always sure of himself. Sure he was down on his luck and a bit nerdy, but those have always been his mainstays. Raimi's Peter was a socially awkward dope who looked and acted like an old-timey school boy. It's not 1960 Sam Raimi! Peter has very much evolved since then. I can understand wanting to pull inspiration from what you grew up with, but even the kid audience of SM1 (I believe I was about 12 or 13 at the time) had grown up with the Spider-Man animated series and at least 20 years worth of comics that have portrayed Spidey as a mature adult who was actually a pretty cool guy. He also had tons of Spider gadgets and lots of know-how when it came to the superhero biz.

Now take Webb's version. This Peter Parker is very much based on his Ultimate counterpart, which as we all know is a very recent and updated iteration of the character. And it's probably the most appropriate to pull from because all Ultimate Spidey focused on was the teenage Peter Parker, and it was pulled off quite excellently I might add. If you ask me, this is far more appropriate to do with a character like Spider-Man who has been around for over 60 years. If you want to appeal to a young crowd, or even a more modern crowd for that matter, don't pull a kid out of the 60's and throw him into the 21st century. Use a kid from that era with real world problems facing real world situations that many of us face. Have him respond how people today would respond and act like people today act. It also doesn't hurt that they are diving into the scientific genius side of Peter Parker, something Raimi barely touched on in favor of a love triangle.

Raimi did capture a Spider-Man that was faithful to his comic roots, but sadly he was about 50 years too late, and this is why he doesn't resonate with me. I just didn't grow up with him and quite frankly I have a hard time taking him seriously. I'm grateful for what Raimi did for the genre, but I haven't been interested in his take on Spidey for some time now. It's very refreshing for me to see Webb take this property, update it, and still keep the core of the character intact. I'm really excited to see how it all plays out.

I can agree with this. I appreciate what Raimi has done as well, most definitely, and Spider-Man 2 will always be one of my favorite CBMs. I can see Raimi's Spidey in a more 60s era(which, by the way...Raimi would've done something amazing to a Noir Spidey film, imo) and Webb is trying to place Peter in a more modern world.
 
I can agree with this. I appreciate what Raimi has done as well, most definitely, and Spider-Man 2 will always be one of my favorite CBMs. I can see Raimi's Spidey in a more 60s era(which, by the way...Raimi would've done something amazing to a Noir Spidey film, imo) and Webb is trying to place Peter in a more modern world.
Now that I would get behind a hundred percent! I think he very well could pull that off with his style of film-making. Maybe an animated movie?
 
But Noir Spidey should definitely NOT use a gun, imo.

Animated movie? Ehh, maybe....live-action, most definitely.
 
I sadly can't see it happening anytime in my future. It would be great though. But still, I haven't seen any good Marvel animation in quite a while. I think the last few I was actually impressed with were the Hulk vs animated movies with Wolverine and Thor. DC pumps out at least 1 or 2 a year, I think it'd be cool if Marvel started doing some again. The Dr. Strange movie wasn't all that bad, but that and most of the others had kind of odd animation. A good Spidey animation could really revitalize that market.
 
Oh yah, Marvel really needs to step up with its animated films.

It's funny, Marvel has it going on with MCU, but failing with the animated films while DC is only going strong with Batman and nothing else with live-action but is doing a way better job with its animated films.
 
MARVEL Animted film would be great, a good Spidey one would be good and a Iron Man and Cap one.

Spidey needs a animated film. A proper one.
 
If TSSM kept going, we could have had a few animated films of TSSM as mentioned once a while ago. That never happened.
 
Greg Weisman mentioned doing the more mature storylines of Spider-Man in some Direct-to-DVDs after TSSM's run, which was a hopeful five seasons. One were to be assumed that will be about The Death of Gwen Stacy since after the five seasons, it will just be shortly after Peter's graduation(the first two was his Junior year, the third could have possibly been during the summer and the other two could've been his Senior year).
 
If TSSM kept going, we could have had a few animated films of TSSM as mentioned once a while ago. That never happened.
This makes me hate "Ultimate Spider-Man" even more. Why cancel a really good animated series just so Disney could make their own new show? Sigh...
 
Well, it was mostly on Sony for wanting to cancel the series. It's hard to blame Disney on that one. I do blame Disney for wanting to keep going with USM since it's such a hated show.
 
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While I'm exciting for the movie, and the cast seems great, Garfield is a drama queen. The whole crying scene and speech in spidey's suit felt forced to me.

The man is definitely not a drama queen. Knowing the kind of person he is, from a lot of the interviews and videos that I've watched of him just talking, he definitely wouldn't fake something like that or put on a performance just to gain attention. People would see right through it, and he's better than that.

If you read some of the quotes posted earlier from a magazine concerning Andrew Garfield, Sony originally didn't want him to give that speech, but he did it anyway, because he knew about how the fans, including himself, felt about this character. And that move paid off handsomely, imho.

Hell, there's a video of him on YouTube politely telling a papparazzi to stop filming him and Emma and to leave them in peace, just so they can spend a normal day out of the spotlight. That doesn't sound like an attention-seeking drama queen to me.

He may seem like one to you, but that was just him being honest and heartfelt. And there's nothing wrong with that.
 
Well, it was mostly on Sony for wanting to cancel the series. It's hard to blame Disney on that one. I do blame Disney for wanting to keep going with USM since it's such a hated show.

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The man is definitely not a drama queen. Knowing the kind of person he is, from a lot of the interviews and videos that I've watched of him just talking, he definitely wouldn't fake something like that or put on a performance just to gain attention. People would see right through it, and he's better than that.

If you read some of the quotes posted earlier from a magazine concerning Andrew Garfield, Sony originally didn't want him to give that speech, but he did it anyway, because he knew about how the fans, including himself, felt about this character. And that move paid off handsomely, imho.

Hell, there's a video of him on YouTube politely telling a papparazzi to stop filming him and Emma and to leave them in peace, just so they can spend a normal day out of the spotlight. That doesn't sound like an attention-seeking drama queen to me.

He may seem like one to you, but that was just him being honest and heartfelt. And there's nothing wrong with that.
Well said.
 
Okay, something was brought to my attention and I'm pretty ecstatic right now:

Who the hell is the gray haired/light hair guy talking with Connor at a scene that looks like a prison? Who is the guy asking "Did you tell the boy about his father?"? Is that our first glimpse of Norman Osborn? Look closely, that guy ISN'T Dr. Ratha neither anyone we've seen so far. Who would have access to Curt Connors in prison and know who Peter's father is? Is that really Norman? Who actor has that voice? WHO THE HELL IS THAT GUY?

[YT]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16AwVWvjQhY&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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At 2:40. And how the hell I haven't seen anyone talking about this so far? :wow:
 
Okay, something was brought to my attention and I'm pretty ecstatic right now:

Who the hell is the gray haired/light hair guy talking with Connor at a scene that looks like a prison? Who is the guy asking "Did you tell the boy about his father?"? Is that our first glimpse of Norman Osborn? Look closely, that guy ISN'T Dr. Ratha neither anyone we've seen so far. Who would have access to Curt Connors in prison and know who Peter's father is? Is that really Norman? Who actor has that voice? WHO THE HELL IS THAT GUY?

[YT]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16AwVWvjQhY&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[/YT]

At 2:40. And how the hell I haven't seen anyone talking about this so far? :wow:
Fans are saying that the actor is "Michael Massee" but he is listed as David Lowell on imdb. Massee was one of the Goblins I believe.

I think that he is really playing Norman Osborn though.
 
Okay, something was brought to my attention and I'm pretty ecstatic right now:

Who the hell is the gray haired/light hair guy talking with Connor at a scene that looks like a prison? Who is the guy asking "Did you tell the boy about his father?"? Is that our first glimpse of Norman Osborn? Look closely, that guy ISN'T Dr. Ratha neither anyone we've seen so far. Who would have access to Curt Connors in prison and know who Peter's father is? Is that really Norman? Who actor has that voice? WHO THE HELL IS THAT GUY?

[YT]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16AwVWvjQhY&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[/YT]

At 2:40. And how the hell I haven't seen anyone talking about this so far? :wow:
Uh, lots of people guessed that it could be Norman and Marc Webb was asked and said it's a mystery until we watch the movie.
 
Okay, something was brought to my attention and I'm pretty ecstatic right now:

Who the hell is the gray haired/light hair guy talking with Connor at a scene that looks like a prison? Who is the guy asking "Did you tell the boy about his father?"? Is that our first glimpse of Norman Osborn? Look closely, that guy ISN'T Dr. Ratha neither anyone we've seen so far. Who would have access to Curt Connors in prison and know who Peter's father is? Is that really Norman? Who actor has that voice? WHO THE HELL IS THAT GUY?

[YT]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16AwVWvjQhY&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[/YT]

At 2:40. And how the hell I haven't seen anyone talking about this so far? :wow:

This conversation has been talked about for a while actually. The actor is Michael Massee playing "David Lowell". I reckon it's Norman...could even be the Chameleon. :huh:
 
Irrfan Khan was listed as Nels Van Adder/Proto Goblin a while back, but then it changed to Dr. Ratha. Chances are Michael Masse's role will be Norman.

I think they put "david lowell" to throw us off
 
Norman Osborn is the only logical answer. This is insane. I don't really know what to think right now. Is this guy a good actor?
 
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