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©KAW;20915859 said:Yeah, you can compare the two. I do it quite easily. You can serve the story with the classic colors made of the same material in Nolan's flicks.
What's the logic (since that's what we're after here) of Batman wearing a gray spandex suit with black/blue cape and undies? It makes more sense, in the "real world" (used loosely) for a vigilante like that to wear body armor rather than spandex. What purpose would the claasic suit serve other than just being closer to the source material?
Spider-Man, on the other hand will be wearing a for fitting, non-body armor, padded costume in any case, whether it's in Raimi's film, Webb's film, heck, the Nicholas Hammond show. There is no logical reason for the deviation in design. Feel free to explain.
I've never really thought the general audience gave damn about explaining every detail of Batman's suit (just the fanboys). People keep going on about logic and realism. I just think Batman/Nolan's suit looks awful, making it slicker/thinner material (perhaps a bit thicker in design than Spidey's) and saying that it bullet proof is enough. If for any reason, it would be so he could move more freely. Hell, you can color it how you see fit. He still moves like the suit weighs 800 pounds.What's the logic (since that's what we're after here) of Batman wearing a gray spandex suit with black/blue cape and undies? It makes more sense, in the "real world" (used loosely) for a vigilante like that to wear body armor rather than spandex. What purpose would the claasic suit serve other than just being closer to the source material?
No, there is no logical reason other than Marvel wanting a different suit on the market and on film. Marvel has never been the kind of company that gave a damn about fanboys wanting Spider-Man suit to always remain the classic suit. They'll change it on a dime. Movie is now no different. Since the costume is still form fitting and non-body armor, that's all they really care about. That Spidey can move and do any and everything he can in his classic suit with the new one.Spider-Man, on the other hand will be wearing a for fitting, non-body armor, padded costume in any case, whether it's in Raimi's film, Webb's film, heck, the Nicholas Hammond show. There is no logical reason for the deviation in design. Feel free to explain.
Honestly the reboot suit is not that different from classic spidey suit. They just gave a us re imagined suit that is instantly recognizable as Spiderman yet something that creates further separation from the raimi franchise.
I actually like the suit, the only thing, ONLY thing that I think is a major flaw in design is the front, if it had a belt all the way around it would be perfect. Even so though, even if they made it more of a point, it would look alot more stylistic. Instead it just looks...odd.
Even though I love the new costume, I have to say that the design didn't really need to be that different from the Raimi costume. The new material, webbing and the over all edgier shape would've made it perfectly clear that this is not the old Spider-man. The classic design in a edgier fresh form would've been perfect. Though, I already think that the new suit is awesome so I'm not really complaining, just saying how they could have pleased more fans
^^ Agreed. That's exactly what I'm trying to say. They could have gone with almsot the design from Raimi's, but used this texture instead to let people know it's a different film.
©KAW;20916389 said:I've never really thought the general audience gave damn about explaining every detail of Batman's suit (just the fanboys). People keep going on about logic and realism. I just think Batman/Nolan's suit looks awful, making it slicker/thinner material (perhaps a bit thicker in design than Spidey's) and saying that it bullet proof is enough. If for any reason, it would be so he could move more freely. Hell, you can color it how you see fit. He still moves like the suit weighs 800 pounds.
No, there is no logical reason other than Marvel wanting a different suit on the market and on film. Marvel has never been the kind of company that gave a damn about fanboys wanting Spider-Man suit to always remain the classic suit. They'll change it on a dime. Movie is now no different. Since the costume is still form fitting and non-body armor, that's all they really care about. That Spidey can move and do any and everything he can in his classic suit with the new one.
Sorry, but the Nolan universe is all about (supposed) logic. So in Batman Begins you think it'd have been acceptable for Batman to wear a gray, form fitting costume with a blue cowl, yellow utility belt and blue undies? I don't think that fits the tone of the film, nor does it make sense why Bruce would choose such a design in the slightest. Like I said before, Batman's costume is form over function (unlike Spider-Man which is the opposite) that in BB and TDK, does away with the parts that don't make sense (gray spandex, blue cape, undies, etc...) and maintains the important elements of what Batman should look like. I don't think it's the best design possible, but it works in the world that Nolan has created.
You could argue that Spider-Man's new costume maintains all the important elements (it does), but in this case, there is no reason for the changes to be made. Your argument is basically that Marvel changed the suit because they are sell outs.
The comics are drastically different than a movie, sure they try new suits out all the time...and they always fail. No matter how many times the suit is changed in the comics, they ALWAYS go back to the classic suit.
But the movie is a movie. SPidey costume needs to be used the most. The other costumes they had were only temporary.
I don't care what color scheme they use, okay maybe, I'd prefer dark gray and black (no undies, lol), personally. I'm just saying the suit seems like it weighs 800 pounds, Batman can hardly move in the damn thing. It still has the same problem as Tim Burton's suit, accept I actually like the look of Burton's suit better.Sorry, but the Nolan universe is all about (supposed) logic. So in Batman Begins you think it'd have been acceptable for Batman to wear a gray, form fitting costume with a blue cowl, yellow utility belt and blue undies? I don't think that fits the tone of the film, nor does it make sense why Bruce would choose such a design in the slightest. Like I said before, Batman's costume is form over function (unlike Spider-Man which is the opposite) that in BB and TDK, does away with the parts that don't make sense (gray spandex, blue cape, undies, etc...) and maintains the important elements of what Batman should look like. I don't think it's the best design possible, but it works in the world that Nolan has created.
Marvel doesn't need a reason to change the Spider-Man suit, it's their character, they do what the hell they want with him. Trust me, I've been fighting against the things Marvel allows to their characters (especially Spidey) for a decade, but they don't seem to care.You could argue that Spider-Man's new costume maintains all the important elements (it does), but in this case, there is no reason for the changes to be made. Your argument is basically that Marvel changed the suit because they are sell outs.
Actually, changing comic book costumes on film is nothing new, it's not the first and it won't be the last Spidey costume change, a third director may not like the classic suit or the new one (and Marvel will give him the thumbs up to change it). We may get the classic suit in the sequel, or not. Either way, Marvel doesn't budge until they want to.The comics are drastically different than a movie, sure they try new suits out all the time...and they always fail. No matter how many times the suit is changed in the comics, they ALWAYS go back to the classic suit.