The Amazing Spider-Man: The Game - Part 1

[Wolvieboy17]

He means it only needs to be solid in order to justify him trying it out. Surely you understand that?

 

[Spider-Aziz]

He'll try it out anyway

But yeah, why do I expect him to want something great from Activision, he doesn't like their work

I agree with him in the need for a great game

 

[Wolvieboy17]

He didn't say he didn't WANT something great from Activision, just that at the very least something decent would suffice. He already said before that his two pieces of criteria for a new spidey game was free roam and a realistic art style, so like he said, as long as it's decent and fun to play he'll be fine with it.

If they make it a fun return to free roam, that will be enough for now. It may not be Arkham City but it's definitely a step in the right direction otherwise, away from the Edge of Time model.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

He didn't say he didn't WANT something great from Activision,

I didn't say he said that, I said I shouldn't expect him saying that

just that at the very least something decent would suffice. He already said before that his two pieces of criteria for a new spidey game was free roam and a realistic art style, so like he said, as long as it's decent and fun to play he'll be fine with it.

I saw that

 

[ProjectPat2280]

Then why all it needs to be is a solid title?

I think Wolvieboy pretty much covered it. I can enjoy, or have fun with a decent Spidey title(i.e. Shattered Dimensions). I can overlook some flaws and enjoy Spider-Man. Dude is one of, if not my favorite heroes. However, if a Spidey title is just bad, like Spider-Man 3 or Edge of Time, my love for the character can't outweigh the faults of those types of games.

I badly want a Spider-Man title that people can put in the same sentence as Arkham City, however i dont have to have that level of quality to get some enjoyment from a Spidey game. I just dont want another SM3 or EoT.

 

[ProjectPat2280]

He'll try it out anyway

But yeah, why do I expect him to want something great from Activision, he doesn't like their work

Yea, of course ill try it out. I mean its not like ill watch YouTube videos and then comment on the game as if iv played it. I mean, who does that?


I dont care who the company is, i want great products from all of them, the difference is iv come to expect mediocrity from Activision and its development teams more so than other companies.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Look, Pat, I kept overlooking this repeated tease with SM3, now you have to say this?

I watched every review to that game, reviewers everywhere f***ed up badly, reviews are badly laughable, SM3 is EVERYTHING I repeatedly said it is, especially being better than the highly overrated -still good- Arkham Asylum

Played those games many times, reviews are moronic and goofy, Spider-Man 3 is a great game, anyone saying otherwise shoots ludicrous stuff, it's great, it's much better than many great games, I played a lot of games and found more to appreciate in SM3, and I speak more reasonable and less personal opinion, get it? It's the TRUTH whether you agree or not

And SD, I treated it like cartoon cause I know myself not fond of extremely flat beat 'em up's, that one is extremely repetitive, overly dull in gameplay, no tricks, nothing, it just gives commands you are forced to follow, SM3 made room for tricks to find, aand it introduce effing Free Flow combat, I played, it has the definition of Free Flow, it ddoes, it's there, it's a fantastic game

Shattered Dimensions is offensive $#%^, especially the projectiles in USM universe, if you say "Beenox probably didn't mean it" you're WRONG, they mean it, they suckm, BEENOX suck, your thought on SM3 the game is extremely wrong, it's the best Spider-Man game for all the reasons I said over and over again, and it's only surpassed by Arkham City as the best CBG

SMSD is terrible, it's crap, anyone who find it good doesn't know how to review, especially saying SM3 is bad, when it's great


Don't argue, you annoy me. I wanted to stop, that remark you made is very provocative

 

[Spider-Aziz]

And if it was only about personal opinion I'd convince Havok83 to play [PROTOTYPE] and enjoy it, it's not about personal opinion, it's about "WTF is this nonsense people repeat"

Justin: if you read this and respond, get this: SM3 is very different from SM2, it's not a watered down version, and you like the Wii version, don't bother me

Wolvieboy: Everything goes to you too

Jick: If you still think SM3 is a bad game; just ignore this piece and don't prolong the discussion

ProjectPat2280: ENOUGH, read it, and stop mentioning SM3 as a bad game, cause you're wrong, and you are like many, wanted a second SM3, STILL DO. I want a better one, I had more ambition even before joining this forum, wanted an Arkham City or better
Go play that awful first entry of Assassin's Creed, that's a bad game you defend, and you say you don't play bad games, you bash one of the greats and commend crap, with all its issues you chose to ignore

Everyone else who's looking to debate: Close it, and move on, and NEVER mention SM3 as a bad game, cause it's the thing I defend it constantly to be, it has its issues, but most of the complaints it received are about stuff in every other game in just the same does, somehow they're problematic here and forgotten there

As for the darn annoying QTEs: After playing many more games with QTE's this one has the most reasonable and well made QTE's, it tells you to press jump to jump, press the button that delivers the command requested, plain and simple, not the awkward press reflexes to, and pretty handy

 

[ProjectPat2280]

You had to of been dropped on your head as a child, MULTIPLE times. I mean damn dude.

I dont know if you are just that blinded by fanboyism or you truly just dont know what the hell you are talking about, maybe it's a little bit of both, but there really is no reason to go back into the debate about SM3. You're just going to end up making yourself look stupid, yet again.

Iv also never said i dont play bad games, hell i OWN both Spider-Man 3 and Superman Returns, quite possibly 2 of the worst Superhero games on the current gen systems. I can sometimes get a little bit of enjoyment out of poor titles. Even with the myriad of flaws in SM3(and there are a TON, rather you think there are or not) i found a little bit of enjoyment in that game. Now, because i can find a little enjoyment in s**t games, like SM3, does NOT mean i want all my games to be produced with that level of quality.

Im telling ya man, get off this SM3 kick, it'll make your posts seem far less moronic and you might actually be taken a little more seriously.

 

[Havok83]

Oh boy, we're back to the SM3 is the best thing since sliced bread debate? Some things never change around here

 

[Spider-Aziz]

You had to of been dropped on your head as a child, MULTIPLE times. I mean damn dude.

I dont know if you are just that blinded by fanboyism or you truly just dont know what the hell you are talking about, maybe it's a little bit of both, but there really is no reason to go back into the debate about SM3. You're just going to end up making yourself look stupid, yet again.

Not at all, what I said is based on viewing as much as playing, and I'm right, cause I know exactly what I'm talking about, and it's this, it's true, that'e the case

I won't end up being stupid, I'll end up with people who think what I say is stupid, when it's right on the mark, it is what I say it is, nothing less. Game has its own issues, but it's in now way bad or mediocre, it's nothing less than good

Iv also never said i dont play bad games, hell i OWN both Spider-Man 3 and Superman Returns,

I told you to playe MS3, and you responded "I don't play bad games, like SM3". And I never played SR

quite possibly 2 of the worst Superhero games on the current gen systems.

SM3? No way, not at all, Shattered Dimensions yes, Web of Shadows yes, Edge of Time I liked, but whatever, but not SM3

I can sometimes get a little bit of enjoyment out of poor titles.

Like the first Assassin Creed

Even with the myriad of flaws in SM3(and there are a TON, rather you think there are or not)

Not tons, only 6 or 7 decent points, beyond that every complaint is way over the top complaint, WAY-OVER-THE-TOP,. How many times need I repeat how hard I tried to relate? Complaints are bad, you were right when the game was new and said "It deff better than 6", you were right then, not now
I

found a little bit of enjoyment in that game.

[Find them all, there is far more to enjoy than what you think

Now, because i can find a little enjoyment in s**t games, like Assassin's Creed 1, does NOT mean i want all my games to be produced with that level of quality.

Corrected. SM3 is good, it's very good, you demand lots of points you can find easily there, you just blocked your mind to it so badly, I played it so many times man, most of the complaints work on way too many games receiving praising (repetition, camera, etc), and some of the stuff people praise in other games are here (free flow in BAA, fan service, easiest examples). You are one of those demanding stuff that are there and can be easily found, but you ignore it

Im telling ya man, get off this SM3 kick, it'll make your posts seem far less moronic and you might actually be taken a little more seriously.

I'm not sorry to defend a good game worth defending, it's just what I said it is many times. I repeatedly tried to relate, but the complaints this game received are mostly as moronic as you view my defense of it, poorly conceived complaints are poor, even if they are heard from most people

SM3 is gold people let slip from there hands because they see some saw dust, in it, and keep focusing on it, that's what happening, it's depressing

Decent complaints:

• Story isn't so good, but it's not as terrible as it's said to be, so it's half decent
• Web swinging is a downgrade from SM2
• Side missions are lacking
• Glitches (though some are entertaining, and they're not as wide spread as some said)
• Cinematics look unpleasant
• Graphics aren't so good (though, many play GTA with their cardboard cutouts and ignore that), after watching the city in SR I decided not to defend graphics here as I used to
• Voice acting: For the Chinese, it's cheesy, everyone else sounds fine most of the time
• Lame swing kick, that's not the good kick from the previous two movie games and WoS

And if you hate double jump here's a suggestion, don't press jump when you're in the air

Game is flawed, had the potential to be better, if given more time and better work it could have been more pleasant, but those over the top complaints are horrible, they are worse coming from people who enjoy worse games than what they make this game to be, or mediocre games considering them good

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Oh boy, we're back to the SM3 is the best thing since sliced bread debate? Some things never change around here

Not the best thing since sliced bread, but it's great and not the drag people repeatedly say it is. We can finish it here and no one provokes it again, or we can keep it exclusive to these few posts and move on

And we all agree we want the new game to be far better, even me, I want a far superior Spider-Man game as well

 

[Havok83]

No offense, but it just gets redundant. It does end but then the SAME debate pops up every few weeks and its been like that for months, heck probably years now bc I recall it in the EoT thread and as far back as the Shattered Dimensions one

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Not in those two threads as far as I remember, but a few months back in a thread exclusive to TASM game

EoT thread had the free roam/linear debates

 

[Havok83]

LOL, yes it was in those threads and if I had the time right now, Id pull them up

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Don't bother, I'm doing just that

 

[ProjectPat2280]

We can finish it here and no one provokes it again, or we can keep it exclusive to these few posts and move on

Im sorry, but i won't. I will continue to list Spider-Man 3 along side the worst of the Spider-Man titles, because thats where it belongs. I personally don't give a s**t if that offends you or not. When i talk about what i DONT want in a Spider-Man title i will reference SM3, when i talk about what is bad about past SM titles i will reference SM3. It has nothing to do with you. Bad games need to be brought up so the same mistakes aren't made again.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Im sorry, but i won't.

I said stop provoking when discussing, please do so

I will continue to list Spider-Man 3 along side the worst of the Spider-Man titles

Stop that

because thats where it belongs.

No, it's far from that, it is a great game, and this is how you should view it, cause I'm sick of bad reviews pinning it down when it shouldn't be

I personally don't give a s**t if that offends you or not.

I wanted to ignore that, even with you repeating mentioning it, that last post annoyed me

When i talk about what i DONT want in a Spider-Man title i will reference SM3,

Don't cause it DOES have what you want far more than what you don't, I read your demands, and most of them are in SM3, there where you ask, see it and enjoy it

when i talk about what is bad about past SM titles i will reference SM3.

Again, it has a lot of what you demand in a SM game, I saw what people want, went through countless reviews of this game, and the reviews and what they want from a Spidey game harshly collide, cause they demand stuff that are concentrated in the game they repeatedly bash, that is a reason why humans are confusing, they demand what is under their noses and bash it

It has nothing to do with you. Bad games need to be brought up so the same mistakes aren't made again.

And they should be right, not wrong, bring mention of a game like Web of Shadows, it has good fighting mechanics and nice color palette, but nothing else, but you already know that. Aside from SM3 flaws that ARE there, there are the dozens of misplaced complaints about how bad it is, and it is what I repeatedly said it is.

Now, move along, we can agree we want a far superior game to SM3, but don't mention it among bad games, it has what you demand in a Spidey game, heavily condensed, it's gold you let slip.

If I try to relate and I fail, that means complaints have issues, and if I'm right about something I won't change my mind, including Spider-Man 3, which contains a lot of your demands, but you painfully bash it and refuse to see it, I stood these years trying to relate to the hate to SM3, and it receives over the top extreme wrong complaints about a game with things people demand, I see people saying "Why is this thing we want not in this game?" and then play it, make a video review of it, half-assed play from their side, I play and see what they demand -like you- right there laying out obviously

 

[UltimateWebhead]

'Decent Mediocre' game? Make up your mind :P

I liked it. It doesn't deserve as much hate as it gets but I won't defend it against a great game such as Arkham.

Shattered Dimensions was a decent game, Edge of Time was just flat out awful(save for Josh Keaton)


That can be forgiven tho if they can craft us a cool ASM game.

I disagree that EoT was awful. It was fun. And I think as far as ASM goes we all want the same thing...to be able to say "Yes, ASM game is to Spiderman as Arkham is to Batman."

 

[ProjectPat2280]

I said stop provoking when discussing, please do so Stop that No, it's far from that, it is a great game, and this is how you should view it, cause I'm sick of bad reviews pinning it down when it shouldn't be I wanted to ignore that, even with you repeating mentioning it, that last post annoyed me Don't cause it DOES have what you want far more than what you don't, I read your demands, and most of them are in SM3, there where you ask, see it and enjoy it Again, it has a lot of what you demand in a SM game, I saw what people want, went through countless reviews of this game, and the reviews and what they want from a Spidey game harshly collide, cause they demand stuff that are concentrated in the game they repeatedly bash, that is a reason why humans are confusing, they demand what is under their noses and bash it And they should be right, not wrong, bring mention of a game like Web of Shadows, it has good fighting mechanics and nice color palette, but nothing else, but you already know that. Aside from SM3 flaws that ARE there, there are the dozens of misplaced complaints about how bad it is, and it is what I repeatedly said it is.

Now, move along, we can agree we want a far superior game to SM3, but don't mention it among bad games, it has what you demand in a Spidey game, heavily condensed, it's gold you let slip.

If I try to relate and I fail, that means complaints have issues, and if I'm right about something I won't change my mind, including Spider-Man 3, which contains a lot of your demands, but you painfully bash it and refuse to see it, I stood these years trying to relate to the hate to SM3, and it receives over the top extreme wrong complaints about a game with things people demand, I see people saying "Why is this thing we want not in this game?" and then play it, make a video review of it, half-assed play from their side, I play and see what they demand -like you- right there laying out obviously

Instead of doing a line item response, I'm just going to say "no". No to everything u just stated.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

The game is what I say it is, live it, know that I am right, and deal with it

Yes to everything u just stated.

And go this direction

 

[ProjectPat2280]

I disagree that EoT was awful. It was fun. And I think as far as ASM goes we all want the same thing...to be able to say "Yes, ASM game is to Spiderman as Arkham is to Batman."

I couldn't find the fun in it at all. It was finger numbingly repetitive, had boring enemies and terribly dull environments. The only thing I can say it did right was the casting of Christopher Daniel Barnes and Josh Keaton

 

[Spider-Aziz]

I couldn't find the fun in it at all. It was finger numbingly repetitive

This point goes for the -not decent- Shattered Dimensions, but there it's a bit excused? Make more sense criticizing or don't debate me

 

[ProjectPat2280]

The game is what I say it is, live it, know that I am right, and deal with it

I'm now convinced you just watched YouTube clips of the SM3 game. I don't believe you've ever actually played it. You wouldn't make the asinine statements you do.

 

[ProjectPat2280]

This point goes for the -not decent- Shattered Dimensions, but there it's a bit excused? Make more sense criticizing or don't debate me

I agree. I felt SD was repetitive as well, albeit not nearly as much as EoT. SD at least had a good range of environments compared to EoT


I can't really discuss quality with you though. You just aren't a good enough judge of it.