The Amazing Spider-Man The Amazing Spider-Man's Design Choices

The Lizard - My only serious gripe is the CGI, which I find incredibly lackluster. I also would have preferred it if he had the lab coat throughout the entire film, but what we're getting is better than not having it at all.

Spider-Man - I still hate the redesign. As I've said countless times before, if they had stuck with the traditional look, this would have easily been my favorite superhero costume to ever grace the silver screen. Looking at this suit is like taking a kick to the nads for me.
 
it's probably not the correct meaning of this thread, but I would like to talk about the design of the story and the setting of this new universe:


The origin is clearly there because it's essential to Webb's story and couldn't be done without it, otherwise they wouldn't have gone that route. I'm one of those guys who would've prefered not to have the origin, and just recap it like The Incredible Hulk did, but now I'm really excited to see why the origin is there, it's gonna be something special I just know it!

And the fact that they are going the Begins route is also good because instead of "just doing the origin" like in SM1 they are embracing it fully which first of all differenciates it from SM1 and lends itself to an interesting inspired story, though we have yet to see if there's a story there worth exploring, but I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

Now, the lizard... despite the first impression that Connors is gonna be bad to begin with, I think there's now enough proof that Connors is a nice guy and the way Rhys performs Connors brings the warmth in to the character I wished it to have. For now we have gotten just enough glimpes of the lizard design to keep at least me satisfied, but a lot of people tend to forget that we have no idea what Rhys' performance as the lizard is gonna be, and how the performance and design work together (like the joker). Many people could view the design through new eyes after seeing the movie, because, well, there's probably a good reason for them to do motion capture with the face.

And for Spider-man being a smart-ass, that's a very good choice, but still, there many versions of a smart-ass Spider-man, which is actually most of them now that I think of it, the smart-assness doesn't always work. Though, that's of course due to bad writing and I believe that they can pull off those funny one liners in this movie, especially when you got Andrew playing Peter.

As for the universe this film takes place in, I really like the feel of it. The world Peter lives in has always been a serious place in which Peter's humor and Spidey's quipping brings contrast to, so it was always kinda backwards to me that in the Raimi movies Peter/Spider-Man was serious all the time while the universe around him was silly and cheesy.

The one thing I don't know yet if I like is the emphasis on the father thing. It would've worked a LOT better I think if the origin was out of the way and Uncle Ben wasn't around. That being said, it all depends on execution and I'm very excited to see how they'll pull it off. I doubt they're gonna do the Ang Lee Hulk thing, Peter's dad wouldn't test on his son, and I got a feel that Marc Webb wants to do something original, something that none of us has really even thought of.

And finally, the new costume: it's very "techy" looking which fits this universe that has a heavy emphasis on science, and unlike some people, I'm glad they had the courage to go this far with the design. Most of the people there are left to hate this costume almost seem to hate it just because it's different from the classic costume, but not for a very good reason. But hey, I said most people, not all, some actually have good reasons.

Overall, I'm very very happy with what they seem to be doing, it's like the Spider-Man movie I've been waiting to see since I was a child. Wow, that was a long post :D
 
Come on people are stretching when saying the new spidey suit is better than the raimi one.


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I like this suit. But, the new suit works. I think the new suit having thinner stipes down the arms is better. The red on the arms here was too much IMO. And I really like the blue on the gloves. At first, wasn't a fan. But seeing the thing in motion and in alot of promo material recently, it's a great design change (though either full red or blue included work for me). I also like the inclusion of the trainers. Really shows a practicality. Again, either or would have worked.

My only problem with the new suit is the stripe down the legs on the new one. That's my only real major gripe.
 
Yeah, no. I prefer the new suit over Raimi's suit. Raimi's suit seems too plain for me after seeing TASM suit.
 
Really? The whole grounded thing is Sony, not necessarily by Webb's choice, imitating the success of Nolan's Batman films (Bond did as well with Casino Royale and several other successful, good movies). Peter is in search of his father and dealing with his father's legacy (much like BB), is being chased by the cops as a vigilante outlaw (much like BB), fights crime almost entirely at night (much like BB) and looks like he will have a relationship with a middle-aged cop (much like BB, though Stacy seems more antagonistic than Gordon). The marketing department even threw the word "BEGINS" in the trailer.

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These too.

....if a movie being character driven is a Nolan trait, then nearly every movie in existence would be copying him.

I'm not saying it's a Nolan trait, but for a CBM film as of late, and with Webb even saying he's inspired by The Dark Knight, it just seems like this way of showing Peter is being taken directly from Nolan's usage of Bruce Wayne from BB and TDK. To me, that's what it means, plus many other factors.

Yeah, no. I prefer the new suit over Raimi's suit. Raimi's suit seems too plain for me after seeing TASM suit.

How is Raimi's suit too plain? It's pretty much comics-accurate besides the silver webbing, silver eye frames.
 
How is Raimi's suit too plain? It's pretty much comics-accurate besides the silver webbing, silver eye frames.

Dude, comics accuracy isn't always everything. Imagine if Batman had the comics costume instead of what he has

I like how they made the new suit a little more busy looking. Just copying the classic costume isn't going to cut it, even if you would do a more classic looking costume it would still have to be a little more/different than just the comics costume
 
This is something you've just assumed and that you've ran with for a lot of your arguments. Oh, and I guess no other trailers can use the word "Begins" without it being influenced by Nolan.

Marketing departments never do something by accident or coincidence. :oldrazz:

As for the former, they've made it blatantly clear that Peter's driving goal in this film, if not what will be Web's whole trilogy, is Peter finding "answers" about his parents. Especially his dad, who we see in the first trailer, Peter goes to Oscorp based on stuff his dad left behind, Connors is asked by shady Osborn-like guy, "Did you tell him the truth about his FATHER," and all the rumors say his father plays a role in giving Peter his powers (which is supported by in the last trailer we see Poppa Parker erasing a spider and scientific equations off a chalk board). Connors even says, it wasn't an accident.

All this emphasis on Peter trying to live up to the shadow of his father seems very familiar to me.
 
Yeah, no. I prefer the new suit over Raimi's suit. Raimi's suit seems too plain for me after seeing TASM suit.

Well I'll agree that is a much simpler and cleaner design. ;)

But have you ever heard of less is more? Sometimes it just applies.
 
Dude, comics accuracy isn't always everything. Imagine if Batman had the comics costume instead of what he has

I like how they made the new suit a little more busy looking. Just copying the classic costume isn't going to cut it, even if you would do a more classic looking costume it would still have to be a little more/different than just the comics costume

Dude, we got that in Batman Begins that was pretty damn close. I don't expect to have a suit with black undies over it, but we got a pretty damn accurate suit in BB and it was just fine.
 
How is Raimi's suit too plain? It's pretty much comics-accurate besides the silver webbing, silver eye frames.

Urm, so? I still find it too plain after seeing TASM suit. I like both, but prefer Webb's take on the classic design.
 
Marketing departments never do something by accident or coincidence. :oldrazz:

As for the former, they've made it blatantly clear that Peter's driving goal in this film, if not what will be Web's whole trilogy, is Peter finding "answers" about his parents. Especially his dad, who we see in the first trailer, Peter goes to Oscorp based on stuff his dad left behind, Connors is asked by shady Osborn-like guy, "Did you tell him the truth about his FATHER," and all the rumors say his father plays a role in giving Peter his powers (which is supported by in the last trailer we see Poppa Parker erasing a spider and scientific equations off a chalk board). Connors even says, it wasn't an accident.

All this emphasis on Peter trying to live up to the shadow of his father seems very familiar to me.

But Peter isn't even trying to live up to the shadow of his father?:huh:
He never really knew his father. He's just trying to find out what happened to his parents. That's the catalyst or "first domino" that leads him on his journey to getting his powers. Uncle Ben is the catalyst that leads him to become Spider-man.
 
I'm no longer a fan of Raimi's raised webbing, and I never liked the eyes. I think Webb's design improves on both those aspects. Other than those two things though, Raimi and the design department did an incredible job translating the suit to film.
 
The Spider-Man suit design in this film is almost perfect if you ask me! I love it!

Lizard...well, sometimes he looks great (especially in the lab coat), other times he actually looks pretty weird to me. I can't decide just yet whether I like it or not.

Gwen looks like taken directly from the old comics! She's probably got the most accurate look any Spider-Man character has ever had in a film.
 
In this screen cap Mayo took however, Lizard looks great to me!

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I want the black undies batman

No.

Just, God no.

It works on a cartoon and in a video game but....this isn't the 70s where it looked okay on superheroes.

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Urm, so? I still find it too plain after seeing TASM suit. I like both, but prefer Webb's take on the classic design.

Failing to see how this makes it less plain.

And I don't understand how Raimi's suit is "less plain" from Webb's. Webb has a more chaotic looking suit....you guys rather have that? And when I say chaotic, I mean....the shoes, the weird belt, the leg stripes, the different kind of gloves....so those are the reasons that makes Webb's suit cooler and less plain?
 
And I don't understand how Raimi's suit is "less plain" from Webb's. Webb has a more chaotic looking suit....you guys rather have that? And when I say chaotic, I mean....the shoes, the weird belt, the leg stripes, the different kind of gloves....so those are the reasons that makes Webb's suit cooler and less plain?

Christ.

plain/plān/

Adjective: Not decorated or elaborate; simple or ordinary in character.

I feel that the TASM suit is these things and that's why I like it. I can understand that these aspects of the costume are exactly what people don't like about the suit, but eh, whatever. To each his own.

So, yes. I'll have the half-belt, the shoes and the leg stripes. :)
 
From a design perspective.. a lot of what I'm seeing feels really overdeisned.

The costume for instance.. there's SOOOOO much going on in it.

Just look at the web shooters with their spinning round in circles bright lights flashing.
 
For me the suit is the biggest thing getting in the way of me getting excited about this movie. It reminds me of that period in the 90's when they changed everyone's suits around to look more "90's", which of course now looks awful and cheesy. It feels over designed for the sake of over designing, and doesn't give me high hopes for the rest of the movie. I predict a changed origin and other fundamental changes to the Spider-Man story, with filmmakers who have decided that they know better.

I'll be glad to be proven wrong.
 
Christ.

plain/plān/

Adjective: Not decorated or elaborate; simple or ordinary in character.

I feel that the TASM suit is these things and that's why I like it. I can understand that these aspects of the costume are exactly what people don't like about the suit, but eh, whatever. To each his own.

So, yes. I'll have the half-belt, the shoes and the leg stripes. :)

:doh:

If anything, Webb's suit is MORE elaborate than Raimi's. Webb's suit is much more complicated with its look.
 
It was? One moment he said he was glad but yet he said Raimi's was too plain.
 
He meant that he's glad that the new suit is decorated and elaborate, because Raimi's really wasn't.
 
The new super man "suit" kinda looks like he made out of spidey material
 

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