The Atheism Thread - Part 7

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This whole "you're not supposed to love life" thing is a first for me. I dunno about anyone else. What a strange, regressive belief.
 
But atheists are the ones saying life is meaningless though, cuz there ain't no God :o.

No we don't say that. 'No God' =! 'Life is meaningless.'

Your life is what you make of it. If you fail to make something of your life, Shame on you.
 
I remember learning about it in history class. Calvinism at its roots in Geneva I think...hundreds of years ago.
 
Oh wait... I have seen it before...

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Same ****, different religion.
 
I remember learning about it in history class. Calvinism at its roots in Geneva I think...hundreds of years ago.

I guess its not THAT strict, or there's exceptions, seeing as you can spend your time on a superhero forum and all.
 
I felt that these were some good quotes for this thread:

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I guess its not THAT strict, or there's exceptions, seeing as you can spend your time on a superhero forum and all.

But it is a useful stick with which to beat other christians when they don't agree with you!
 
I felt that these were some good quotes for this thread:

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This is brilliant. Someone knew the truth at that point in time and yet mankind has been debating, warring, and oppressing in the name of falsehoods ever since. It's things like this that make me realize humans as a collective aren't as evolved as we like to think we are.
 
In my experience, the Christian members who come here and start questioning others' Christianity are in zero position to be doing so, given their behavior.
 

If there’s a single argument that could make a religious person turn away from faith, the sentiments expressed in this Twain quote might be it.

It’s also the central thesis of a book by John Loftus called The Outsider Test For Faith. Essentially, this is a challenge to believers: First, compile a list of reasons why you don’t accept the doctrines and dogmas of other religions. E.g., if you’re Christian, what makes you reject Islam? Perhaps the answer is that you find the legendary accounts of Mohammed to be, frankly, farfetched. So you’ve, thus, established a criterion (in this case, scientific/historical implausibility) whereby an outsider has legitimate grounds to deny Islam. Now, apply this same criterion to your own religion. Can it pass the “outsider test”?

In all likelihood, it cannot. The fantastical claims of Islam are certainly no more fantastical than those of Christianity. So by what objective benchmark is one implausible set of beliefs chosen over another implausible set of beliefs?

Of course, all this assumes that the believer is interested in objective self-inquiry. They might just cite personal conviction (i.e. subjective faith). At which point, another quote (from Jonathan Swift) might be apropos:

“It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into.”

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It’s also the central thesis of a book by John Loftus called The Outsider Test For Faith. Essentially, this is a challenge to believers: First, compile a list of reasons why you don’t accept the doctrines and dogmas of other religions. E.g., if you’re Christian, what makes you reject Islam? Perhaps the answer is that you find the legendary accounts of Mohammed to be, frankly, farfetched. So you’ve, thus, established a criterion (in this case, scientific/historical implausibility) whereby an outsider has legitimate grounds to deny Islam. Now, apply this same criterion to your own religion. Can it pass the “outsider test”?

Personally I think Mormonism is the best religion to poke holes into since it is less then 200 years old, so it's rather modern. The idea that an angel came down and talked to Joseph Smith is beyond ridiculous, yet how many stories in the bible involve direct contact with god or an angel?
 
Personally I think Mormonism is the best religion to poke holes into since it is less then 200 years old, so it's rather modern. The idea that an angel came down and talked to Joseph Smith is beyond ridiculous, yet how many stories in the bible involve direct contact with god or an angel?
Quite a few.
 
Now now, just because people talk to imaginary things and do as they command, no matter how crazy, doesn't mean anything. It's not like anyone was commanded to kill their kid (Abraham), kill thousands of other people for various reasons (deuteronomy) or destroy entire tribes of people (Joshua) or anything.

Wait...

Also, the OT is hardcore in the murder aspect.

http://commonsenseatheism.com/?p=21
 
The Bible: Part III AMERICA! *guitar solo* Directed by Micheal Bay.
 
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