The Batman General News & Discussion Thread - Part 2

[CondimentKing]

Poor Ben Affleck, it'll never end! lol

 

[shauner111]

I’d rather see bale and pattinson.

 

[TheSmoothKnight]

I have a strong feeling Freeze will be in the sequel, as will one other villain. Hugo strange and Freeze would make a good combo. Scarecrow as well.

 

[Sawyer]

I want Hugo Strange in the mix so goddamn bad.

 

[JubJub86]

Ideally I'd just want him to get someone obscure we haven't seen before, go nuts with Mad Monk or something.

Thing is, it's too early to be introducing anything quite that crazy, doesn't fit rationally as a next point.

Two-Face seems to fit most to me, and while it *feels* like TDK was really recent, it'll be 15 years by the time a sequel hits. I think it's long enough, especially if you do a way different take on it. Not simply a grieving guy who's broken, but a legit wacko with dozens of guys working for him in a new upstart mob venture. Riddler's exposed at least a sizeable chunk of the city's corruption, Penguin's taken over the Falcone family (either by personally killing him, or he's just died and Oswald's muscled on in to take it over by force).

Looks like it's going to be Gangster Era 2.0 for Gotham, only these two guys are eccentric and one of them's literally out of his mind - things are starting to change, the city's getting wackier. Harvey ending up in Arkham again by the end of that movie, Penguin maybe doing a stint in Blackgate or something.

Movie 3's like full-on "the mafia's taken a big hit and they're on their knees, but HOLY **** NOW THERE'S CLOWNS AND MURDEROUS PSYCHIATRISTS AND GUYS OBSESSED WITH ALICE IN WONDERLAND!!1!"

 

[Gothamsknight]

I trust what Reeves could do with him so much.

 

[Razor Crest]

I want Hugo Strange in the mix so goddamn bad.

I feel Strange would be a Reeves like choice. After reading Prey years ago, I’ve definitely want to see him for a live adaptation. I’m also eager to see a reinvention of Ventriloquist, Scarecrow, and Poison Ivy.

 

[The Lazarus Pit]

Ideally I'd just want him to get someone obscure we haven't seen before, go nuts with Mad Monk or something.

Thing is, it's too early to be introducing anything quite that crazy, doesn't fit rationally as a next point.

Two-Face seems to fit most to me, and while it *feels* like TDK was really recent, it'll be 15 years by the time a sequel hits. I think it's long enough, especially if you do a way different take on it. Not simply a grieving guy who's broken, but a legit wacko with dozens of guys working for him in a new upstart mob venture. Riddler's exposed at least a sizeable chunk of the city's corruption, Penguin's taken over the Falcone family (either by personally killing him, or he's just died and Oswald's muscled on in to take it over by force).

Looks like it's going to be Gangster Era 2.0 for Gotham, only these two guys are eccentric and one of them's literally out of his mind - things are starting to change, the city's getting wackier. Harvey ending up in Arkham again by the end of that movie, Penguin maybe doing a stint in Blackgate or something.

Movie 3's like full-on "the mafia's taken a big hit and they're on their knees, but HOLY **** NOW THERE'S CLOWNS AND MURDEROUS PSYCHIATRISTS AND GUYS OBSESSED WITH ALICE IN WONDERLAND!!1!"

Mad Monk was introduced way before Two-Face. I’d love an animated Batman and the Mad Monk movie, hopefully Bruce Timm introduces the character.

But if they did Mad Monk, I’d definitely amalgamate him with some of the other occult characters. Deacon Blackfire/The Cult would provide such a great foundation for a supernatural religious horror story.

 

[TheSmoothKnight]

I trust what Reeves could do with him so much.

I don’t know if he is just playing around but he could’ve easily posted any other villain from his art work with #TheBatman. Combined with the rumors that Mr. Freeze will be teased. It would be awesome.

 

[JubJub86]

Yeah, I meant more in terms of like you wouldn't go all supernatural for this, live-action, in a second movie following Riddler. Monk's one of the old Bat villains, but it fit the tone of the time.

Not saying supernatural stuff wouldn't fit into Reeves' verse, I think it could, but you'd build to that.

 

[Gothamsknight]

I don’t know if he is just playing around but he could’ve easily posted any other villain from his art work with #TheBatman. Combined with the rumors that Mr. Freeze will be teased. It would be awesome.

I'd lose my **** if it's a hint at him being the villain.

Btw, I think this is Penguin.

 

[Scorpio]

Can you imagine the second movie being set at winter time in Reeve’s gotham with Freeze as the main villain. I’m praying so hard for that to happen and I would absolutely love if Two-face was in the mix as well.

Those are my 2 favourite batman villains and I think they would compliment each other really well in a live action movie.

 

[The Lazarus Pit]

Two-Face is largely unexplored on film. I want to see true duality here, not just Harvey and Angry Harvey. I want genuine split personalities, how have we never seen that? It’s a huge opportunity for an actor to show their range if they write him correctly.

Eckhart was great and I liked Tommy Lee Jones, but we haven’t had a definitive Two-Face performance like we have had for Joker. I think this role should go to a heavyweight. I really like McConaughey for this.

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

This would be incredible.

 

[BatLobster]

I really like McConaughey for this.

Another Two-face from Texas, eh? Alright, alright, alright.

In a way, I think the southern accent could be a nice touch. The idea of a Harvey who wasn't born in Gotham but moved there with wide-eyed optimism and ambition, only to be ruined by the city could be a cool detail for the character. Personally the idea of Bruce and Harvey being old friends never really did much for me, so I'd be fine not going there.

 

[TheSmoothKnight]

 

[shauner111]

Mad Monk was introduced way before Two-Face. I’d love an animated Batman and the Mad Monk movie, hopefully Bruce Timm introduces the character.

But if they did Mad Monk, I’d definitely amalgamate him with some of the other occult characters. Deacon Blackfire/The Cult would provide such a great foundation for a supernatural religious horror story.

Yup. Adam Driver.

 

[TheGDBatman]

Super late to the party, but that trailer was everything I wanted and more.

I'm still on team Mr. Freeze for a sequel, but the idea of a Penguin/Two-Face gang war also sounds appealing...

 

[shauner111]

Harvey Dent is supposedly not in this movie but we know there's a open DA spot now. So i’m of the belief that Matt Reeves will introduce Harvey Dent in the sequel, but without repeating the same beats that Nolan made. I doubt he would give the guy zero development and suddenly disfigure him. And I also doubt he becomes Two-Face halfway through the story again.

The smart thing to do is use Harvey in 3-5 scenes (like Colin) and throw acid in his face at the very end of the movie.

This is why I'm crossing Two-Face off my list as a candidate for main villain (or even supporting villain) until the third film. Which is exciting because now it's open season.

Victor and Hugo seem to be at the top of everyone’s list.

 

[JubJub86]

Yeah, I'd be all over the idea of Matty McConaughaughaninnynaynay as Dent. Halfway between Tommy Lee and Aaron with the approach, grounded like Eckhart but this ruthless extroverted hellraiser like Jones. And of course show plenty of the other side, the guy able to have a cogent & reasoned conversation with Bruce when his mind happens to be in normal-guy mode.

Sorta liking the idea of an older actor for it too, if it's the "he's already scarred and his mind's snapped" approach, too. He used to be the whole White Knight thing and was maybe a family friend, he knew Mom & Dad Wayne well, and Bruce since he was a kid.

While having no idea Bruce is Batman, interacting with them both separately. And he & Penguin really butting heads bigtime.

 

[TheSmoothKnight]

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New Details on Bruce Wayne in ‘The Batman’ Revealed (Exclusive)

Minor spoiler about Bruce Wayne.

 

[WatchProtect]

I actually mentioned awhile back ID like to see

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Martha being an Arkham?, and while this isn't completely the same I'm still very very much on board with it.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

This info seems in line with earth one and the new book Imposter. I'm here for it.

 

[JubJub86]

Kinda figured that scene in the shot with him beating the guy while he's down might be that "he almost kills someone" bit a scooper mentioned a while back. Pretty cool that Selina witnesses it, could be they're both sort of reigning themselves in going forward for sequels.

Not really grasping how

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Martha doing some in Arkham would necessarily feed into what Riddler's going on about though, about their involvement. What, 'cause Thomas covered it up for the sake of his business/political goals? Doesn't really seem enough to rise to the bar of Riddler's little crusade. Like yeah, he's a loon, but I doubt he's killing guys with duct tape who only did something on that level.

Riddler having goons/accomplices seems new, even if as an educated guess we'd all probably figure he's convinced/manipulated some lackeys. Cool.

The Bruce-blowing-off-his-corporate-duties thing isn't exactly new, though with Bale's I guess it was all an act/ruse, so yeah, this should be cool. Leaves some room for him to grow and become more rounded taking care of both the "Wayne" and "Batman" stuff in future.

 

[shauner111]

I'd say there is now 0 percent chance McConaughey gets the role. Harv isn't in this movie, which means the role has not been cast. Matt is not going to cast based on a internet rumour. It's dead in the water. Just like those bogus Toronto sightings.

I don't know if they'll make him friendly with Bruce or not, in order to change it up from the Eckhart/Bale relationship "ughhh tell me it's not Wayne...that guy is a...". But I do know that going younger is the right way to go when you have a 45-50 year old Gil Colson in the prior corrupt spot. Having big bad Harv as Bruce's age, clean look, dark hair, handsome. I'll always fly the Christopher Abbott flag. Then he gets obliterated and fracture his psyche. Abbott knows all about playing different personas. He's my guy.