The BATSUIT Thread

[Marvel united]

I can see it leading to a modern version of the 89 suit.

What gives you that impression? The '89 suit is as far away in aesthetic from Reeves as West is from Bale

 

[Gamma Goliath]

I hope we dont get anything like the the 89 suit again. It's been done already let it have its place in history.

 

[Vaibow]

The impression I get ferm everything we've seen and heard so far is that this will be a realistic Batman. In many ways, more than Nolan, but it'll preserve the gothic aesthethic. For this film I don't expect any crazy sci-fi or any supernatural stuff, but I think that having a Batman this realistic in his technological and physical limitations and still having him encounter some supernatural stuff later on could be interesting. How would he deal with Ra's Al Ghul? If he JJ Abrams and Matt Reeves ever decided to and make a crossover episode, how would he react to the JL Dark? That might be an interesting take.

I've felt this way too. I look at it, at least in my mind, as a young mad max in the city.

I had the same thought. Looking at the batbike and batmobile, and the fins on the arms just being the straps pulled tight, it’s becoming clear the realistic direction they’re going in. My first thought was “okay so this eliminates a good handful of villains for this trilogy”. I don’t expect to see clayface, manbat, poison ivy, mr. freeze. Any guys like that. I’m thinking more riddler, penguin, Hugo stranger, mad hatter, joker. Basically villains with zero special abilities.

I thought about it too and I really do feel that all the villains can be done, but just in a real world, some would say, 'boring' way which actually opens the door up to some pretty interesting concepts.
Two face - concept 1 - imagine Harvey gets diagnosed with DID (dissociative identity disorder), but keeps it hidden, scared it will hurt his career - he literally splits into two people but fails to realize. On one hand, is this good cop, the other, corrupt as hell and acting as a grass, snitch, informer, the lot. Then, the 3rd person, two face is an amalgamation of the first 2 and when he looks in the mirror, he see's the typical 2 face 'face' but they don't - however, for the sake of story telling, we do...
concept 2, Harvey gets burnt, we see him as this smooth, suave guy - the bad that he does, we never see it. We see the effects of it, but we as an audience never see it, batman does, and tries to pin it on him, but he can't... HD comes off as perfect, but it's Bruce who knows the bloke is literally two faced.
Man-bat. Imagine a villain, an evil, sick man - skins his victims alive and uses the skin to make wings, which he attaches to himself, via clips and piercings (think silence of the lambs, buffalo bill) and he parades in a cave, taunting his victims as they hang from the cave ceiling looking on at rotting corpse.

Poison ivy is easy - hipster woman, makes a rare toxin from a plant, goes after higher ups.

I hope we dont get anything like the the 89 suit again. It's been done already let it have its place in history.

The begins suit was a very good adaption of that suit. All rubber, molds.. all bat suits are adaptions of each other with only really bat flecks being as far gone from that design, so I would go easy on the comparisons, they are there.

 

[Superherofan123]

In a lot of ways this suit is a Batman version of the MCU Captain America suit(except the first avengers). For better or worse. I think it’s unique and yet still definitely Batman. Can’t wait to see it in motion.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

The begins suit was a very good adaption of that suit. All rubber, molds.. all bat suits are adaptions of each other with only really bat flecks being as far gone from that design, so I would go easy on the comparisons, they are there.

By this logic every batsuit is derivative of another. But that's just not the case. I wouldn't argue that the begins suit is an adaption of the 89 suit because it very clearly isnt. Being black and rubber isnt enough to make that claim because were like 4 other black rubber batsuits in between there too. And when people say they want the 89 suit again I imagine very clearly they want another all black with the yellow emblem and long ears. Which is my problem, I personally dont see Reeves adaptation transforming from grey and black armor with a solo bat Into something akin to the burton suit.

 

[shauner111]

I don’t want to see any suits repeated. If you’re making a new version of Batman and your goal isn’t to abandon everything that came before you in order to create something completely fresh...why are you doing it? Even Snyder knew this. They all do, and that’s what’s been a trip with this franchise. We all have our favourites but i gotta give it to the studio and each director for never repeating themselves.

The only time it felt off was the Elfman references in Justice League’s score. But every Batman movie has done a good job at looking forwards instead of backwards. **** nostalgia, I want new or I don’t want it at all. I really appreciate what Reeves is cooking up here.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

This man gets it. No repeats, give us something new.

 

[emielaen]

I had the same thought. Looking at the batbike and batmobile, and the fins on the arms just being the straps pulled tight, it’s becoming clear the realistic direction they’re going in. My first thought was “okay so this eliminates a good handful of villains for this trilogy”. I don’t expect to see clayface, manbat, poison ivy, mr. freeze. Any guys like that. I’m thinking more riddler, penguin, Hugo stranger, mad hatter, joker. Basically villains with zero special abilities.

I honestly don't see why one would determine the other so dramatically to a point where some are already completely ruling out characters. Just because Batman has some not-so-fantastical or theatrical bits of attire/gadgetry doesn't mean certain villains can't show up. A bunch of not just mental, but physical freaks running around would put "the Bat" into even more of a lore/myth role within the city, which is something I think Reeves will hone in on. Him dealing with those extremes could also have ramifications on his psyche which I imagine Reeves will deal with a lot.

 

[FeedOnATreeFrog]

I think the suit and vehicles look so awesome so far. Definitely getting Mad Max vibes (which was also present in the Snyder/Capullo run of the comics)

And while you can call this direction 'realistic', I wouldn't forget that it's also very stylized. It's not like he's just using military vehicles in black. He's using a bike with bat ears on it, armor that evokes sports padding, and a muscle car. It's badass, but silly, in the same way Mad Max is. And just like how that world balances the rough and tough cars with guitar flamethrowers and dudes in assless chaps, I can see Reeve's world with its fair share of fun ridiculousness as well. There's enough clues there from what we've already seen. But we shall see.

 

[Juke Box Hero]

I think while the aesthetic tells a story I don't necessarily think it eliminates a big chunk of storytelling possibilities. I dont think it really has to be one or the other.

I think the suit and vehicles look so awesome so far. Definitely getting Mad Max vibes (which was also present in the Snyder/Capullo run of the comics)

And while you can call this direction 'realistic', I wouldn't forget that it's also very stylized. It's not like he's just using military vehicles in black. He's using a bike with bat ears on it, armor that evokes sports padding, and a muscle car. It's badass, but silly, in the same way Mad Max is. And just like how that world balances the rough and tough cars with guitar flamethrowers and dudes in assless chaps, I can see Reeve's world with its fair share of fun ridiculousness as well. There's enough clues there from what we've already seen. But we shall see.

Exactly

 

[Juke Box Hero]

Plus when Reeves talks about the film being realistic he has followed it up with mentioning the consequences and functionality of someone like Batman/Bruce in the real world and ties it back into the humanist angle he's trying to achieve. His comments haven't been focused on the limitations of Batman in the real world or how practical he can make his Batman. That's one of the things The Dark Knight Trilogy was known for, I don't think Reeves will want to retread that water. Instead as mentioned above it looks heavily stylized with a specific vision/direction.

 

[Tg11]

I hope we get some variation of the Batfleck suit we got but a more slimmer down version of it so that way it matches Pattinson

 

[Invader Joker]

Well, right now this strikes me as even more realistic than Nolan while still being stylized. We'll see.

 

[shauner111]

That’s exactly what it sounds like to me. More grounded but more stylish. If monsters show up in the sequel I can deal with it. Reeves will knock it out of the park. Something that wouldn’t match Nolan’s style that’s for sure. But I just don’t think he’s going there with his trilogy. It’s an element of Gotham City that I never needed to see, and would sometimes skip growing up. I expect that level of fantasy from Spider-Man villains not Batman. It works in the video games but the level of CG required to make it work kinda turns me off, since I normally don’t enjoy movies like that. I AM open to it all though as long as there’s balance.

 

[Tg11]

I mean if they go with an Arkham video games vibe for this trilogy with Reeves, then personally I am all for it

 

[Vaibow]

Yea I can kinda see that.

Nice. It's like the B89 suit and gadgets look like a suit someone could make themselves, the cowl also, it has the points and lines I see in the new cowl. Obviously it won't be a remake or redo, but I can totally see it being similar to it, than say Batfleck etc.

This man gets it. No repeats, give us something new.

Look up....

What gives you that impression? The '89 suit is as far away in aesthetic from Reeves as West is from Bale

The mind sees what it wants to see.

 

[cryptic name]

What kind of tech (aside from the lenses) are we hoping to get out of this batman?

I'm kinda hoping for minimal tech for this Batman. Simple stuff like batarangs and smoke bombs and detection tools. I'm feeling a bit more of lone masked man taking on a corrupt city vibe. Lowtech.

 

[Invader Joker]

There's absolutely nothing about this batsuit that even remotely suggests it'll follow on Burton's footsteps. Aside from Batfleck, it's the most different live action batsuit from Burton.

 

[Brother Jack]

I'm kinda hoping for minimal tech for this Batman. Simple stuff like batarangs and smoke bombs and detection tools. I'm feeling a bit more of lone masked man taking on a corrupt city vibe. Lowtech.

Most definitely. This entire aesthetic is low-tech and DIY. This Batman is closer to Zorro than Iron Man.

 

[Invader Joker]

Most definitely. This entire aesthetic is low-tech and DIY. This Batman is closer to Zorro than Iron Man.

I wouldn't go that far. He still seems to have a lot of gadgets and a car that while at first glance seems just like a muscle car, it also seems ridiculously powerful.

 

[Juke Box Hero]

Idk, like this isn't a swipe at The Dark Knight Trilogy but from a character and setting design everything was very subtle and vanilla and I don't think that will be the case with this series (as evident with the batsuit). I think as the characters develop and the franchise comes into its own opportunities to flesh that out will be present. Just there's a clear visual shift between Batman Begins and The Dark Knight, it might take another film or so for the vision they're going for to be fully realized.

 

[shauner111]

I’m expecting a lot of fog and great looking buildings. Lots of atmosphere and creative designs. I understand that TDK trilogy criticism.

 

[cryptic name]

Most definitely. This entire aesthetic is low-tech and DIY. This Batman is closer to Zorro than Iron Man.

Definitely. I know this is not an origin or "Year One" adaptation per se, but I'm really getting these vibes and I'm all about it.

 

[elgaz]

I wouldn't go that far. He still seems to have a lot of gadgets and a car that while at first glance seems just like a muscle car, it also seems ridiculously powerful.

I kinda like how they haven't totally pared him back, but (based on the car at least) shown him with tech that looks like he could conceivably have put together himself.

I always preferred the Batman stories where he built his own tech, which highlights his scientific knowledge - something often overlooked in favour of his 'world's greatest detective' skills. The two kinda go hand in hand; as a one man show (ok, two if you include Alfred!) he's often having to analyse chemicals and hardware and so on as part of his investigations, which requires a fair amount of scientific knowledge anyway. He's the detective but also the forensic scientist.

Nolan's films were great but one of my gripes was that Bruce didn't create a whole lot. Much of his kit was sourced from Fox and then modified. The Batmobile was a key example, being a wholly military vehicle which was repurposed by Bruce. This one looks very home brewed.

 

[antsman41]

All of the marketing should ape Year One covers, interior art...